tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22453347047393952632024-03-18T23:41:48.895-04:00Extreme AviationDoc Austinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09358924159613442642noreply@blogger.comBlogger200125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2245334704739395263.post-5796110875712407772024-01-16T21:48:00.018-05:002024-02-28T18:16:15.604-05:00Basic Set Up Tricks<p><br /></p><p><span style="color: red;"><b>Doc's note: This is not as comprehensive as Peter Goldsmith's excellent write up, but more a basic primer to help the new guys get the most out of their planes without overwhelming them. I'm a big believer in keeping things simple, and that's what I tried to do here. I hope this gets you started well.</b></span></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhZH1-EnePJ1Sz1PljLIP-Y_6oCXQLCeaCdlEJAmbvJns3jUaCcIL6absOC7e81s8Cd983loQPbmZbIFCY3ICXMowXtsn_XZZeLxKkbHPkHz_Qchqsd-Y-D_6sK49pQZogtA4akTqhJeIPDR2ZBigO1qni4_GD2lr2G98prnNiX4Zo_8XtqyukCPRj6D-_0/s3000/TP%20Gamebird%20004.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1688" data-original-width="3000" height="360" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhZH1-EnePJ1Sz1PljLIP-Y_6oCXQLCeaCdlEJAmbvJns3jUaCcIL6absOC7e81s8Cd983loQPbmZbIFCY3ICXMowXtsn_XZZeLxKkbHPkHz_Qchqsd-Y-D_6sK49pQZogtA4akTqhJeIPDR2ZBigO1qni4_GD2lr2G98prnNiX4Zo_8XtqyukCPRj6D-_0/w640-h360/TP%20Gamebird%20004.jpg" width="640" /></a></div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div><div>There's always a lot of confusion about set up. Your best friend is going to be experience, but if you get a decent basic knowledge that will take a lot of the fear, loathing and mystery out of what might seem like a black art. I know it's overwhelming because I went through it too, but hitting my set ups really helped me raise my game, and it didn't take that long for me to come to grips with it and get the most out of my planes.</div><div><br /></div><div>Let's get the disclaimers out of the way first. Set up can be an extremely personal thing, so there are no hard and fast absolutes. However, you'll get there faster if you start with a good baseline. The manual provides this. One exception for me was Extreme Flight's "insane rate." The new planes are so much livelier and more advanced they simply don't need it, and all that throw made the planes jumpier that I was after. So, now I just never put it on the plane, again a personal preference. If you want to spin the thing into orbit, have at it, but using just the low and 3D rates from modern manuals not only suits the new planes better, but they are easier to fly, more composed and make your flying smoother and more precise. </div><div><br /></div><div>When I started 3D the big throws scared me, so I tried to sneak up on it a little at a time. This blew up in my face with a plane that was too much for sport and not enough for 3D, essentially giving me a very badly set up plane. At Ben Fisher's urging I went back to the manual and got good results instantly. Remember, there is no such thing as "mild 3D." You either have enough throw for 3D, or you don't. You have a good flying plane or you have a pig, so don't discount the set up knowledge of the people who design and manufacture these planes.</div><div><br /></div><div>Virtually every 3D plane I have flown that didn't fly right had a basic set up issue, so this article is meant to steer you away from that. I always tell my students that "<b><i>Set Up is everything</i></b>." </div><div><br /></div><div>I thought I would write up a little piece and outline how I do it. What's here is simply how I do it on my 48 and 60" planes, but it's very close to what is in the manual. I've adjusted a few things to suit how I like the plane to behave, but if you stick to the original Extreme Flight manual or 3DHS manuals, you can't go wrong.</div><p>Worth pointing out is the Extreme Flight set up is almost identical to the old pre-merger 3DHS manual. My guess is this is because it's what both companies found works best. Granted that's what I learned on and what I got used to, but the set up works on every 48-60" plane I have owned or set up for friends and customers.</p><p>Let's start with the set up from the 3DHS 47" Extra SHP. Most of us learned on this plane and are comfortable with it. It's capable but not overbearing.</p><p>Here's the numbers, and we will follow by breaking it down:</p><p style="text-align: center;"><b>High/3D Rates</b> (in degrees) and Corresponding Exponential</p><p style="text-align: center;">Aileron 28 degrees 75% Expo</p><p style="text-align: center;">Elevator 45 degrees 75% Expo</p><p style="text-align: center;">Rudder 45 degrees 75% Expo</p><p style="text-align: center;"><b>Low/Precision Rates </b>(in degrees and inches) and Corresponding Exponential</p><p style="text-align: center;">Aileron 15 degrees 30% Expo</p><p style="text-align: center;">Elevator 13 degrees 30% Expo</p><p style="text-align: center;">Rudder 45 degrees 75% Expo</p>Granted, this is just a starting point because you may like something different. Its a nice, safe set up that won't surprise or jump out from under you, but as you get experience you will learn to tailor it to make the plane suit you. <div><br /></div>I deviated a little here and there because the planes have become more capable, and on the low rate I deviate just a degree or two to give me a really good, smooth precision rate that suits me.<div><br /></div><div>Worth noting here is expo values differ a bit from radio to radio. 75% on Futaba is roughly equivalent to 65% on Spectrum and Hitec, so if you fly those adjust accordingly.</div><div><div><br /></div><div>You will notice I deviate from the manual just a little, but I will explain why I do this as we go along.</div><div><br /></div><div>
<iframe allow="autoplay; fullscreen; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="360" src="https://player.vimeo.com/video/265432697?h=ae2f7f5239" width="640"></iframe><p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://vimeo.com/265432697">52 Slick EXP__Between The Stars</a> from <a href="https://vimeo.com/user714849">Doc Austin</a> on <a href="https://vimeo.com">Vimeo</a>.</p>
The 3D is the rate I use for everything except precision maneuvers. Expos values are different from radio to radio. I fly 75% on all channels, though for Spectrum that would be more like 65%.</div><div><br /></div><div style="text-align: center;"><b><span style="font-size: large;">3D Rate</span></b></div><div><br /><b>ELEVATOR</b><br />I've found 45-50 degrees to be bang on perfect. The way most Extreme Flight and 3DHS planes are set up mechanically, you can get that 45-50 with your end points cranked and get the most resolution out of your servos. I don't understand this well enough to put it in writing other than you get a finer and less jumpy feel . It's sort of like a high resolution TV vrs a low resolution, The high res is a lot smoother, and finer. <p style="text-align: left;">I like 75% expo, maybe because that's how I learned, but it still works. Remember, Spectrum would be about 65%.</p><b>AILERONS</b></div><div>Here I deviate from the manual just a bit because I believe I have improved my skills a bit since the SHP days. I usually go for 31-33 degrees because even that is barely enough to correct torque in a hover, but it's not so lively I can't keep up with it. Personally, much more feels jumpy, and I find myself overcorrecting, but 31-33 is what feels best to me.</div><div><br /></div><div><b>RUDDER</b></div><div>Again, on most planes the elevator halves get in the way and won't allow much more than 45 degrees, and that seems about right. On some planes like the MXS, you can get a lot more, but I discovered that much rudder acted more like an airbrake and won't let the plane yaw correctly. Again 75 for Futaba and 65% for Spectrum users.</div><div><br /></div><div><p style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-size: large;"><b>Low Rate</b></span></p><b><div><span style="font-weight: 400;">The low rate is a rate for precision flying, flying, but it is very, very similar to a sport plane. In fact, you can set the plane up with the low rate from the manual and you'll have a cracking good sport plane, maybe even better than the best sport planes.</span></div><div><b><br /></b></div>Ailerons</b><br />Start with the low rate from the manual. From there I like to set my aileron rate to deliver three rolls in five seconds at full speed. The three in five used to be a maneuver from the old AMA pattern and it is just the right speed to roll the plane fast enough that all it takes to keep the plane level is a little elevator correction while not being so fast it's a struggle to keep up with and not so slow you get behind. You just bury the aileron stick and give it a gentle down elevator when it is inverted and a gently up when it's upright.</div><div><br /></div><div><b>Elevator</b></div><div>Like the manual says, 15-20 degrees is nice and smooth. I've played with the expo a bit and discovered the manual seems to always be right.</div><div><br /><div><b>RUDDER</b></div><div>You may notice the low and high rates are identical for the rudder. This works well because you have full throw for snaps and spins, while the big expo keeps things smooth for precision maneuvers.</div><div><br /></div><div>So that was a lot of writing when all I really did was validate the manual. Worth noting is the 3DHS and Extreme Flight manuals are extremely similar, and my best guess this is because the set up works.</div><div style="text-align: center;"><b><span style="font-size: large;"><br /></span></b></div><div style="text-align: center;"><b><span style="font-size: large;">CG</span></b></div><br />Well, here's the source of a lot of unnecessary butthurt, but it's a lot simpler than all the talk would have you believe. Here's the secret: start at the front of the CG range specified by the manual, and this will be different from one airframe to the next. That's simply a starting point, but most people will be happy enough with that. I generally like to balance my planes a tiny bit nose heavy because that doesn't really sacrifice much 3D performance but does enhance high speed tracking and precision.</div><div><br /></div><div>It is crucial to trim the plane first, and then follow the tests below I copy/pasted from the 3DHS 47" Extra SHP manual:</div><div><p><span style="font-family: arial;"><b>For this type of aircraft where I am going to predominantly fly aggressive 3D. I typically set the airplane up with a neutral CG, meaning that when the aircraft is flown inverted straight and level it requires no down elevator to maintain altitude. If your flying style leans more toward precision aerobatics then I recommend setting your CG using the 45 degree line test. Fly the aircraft from left to right or right to left, whichever direction you are more comfortable with at 3/4 to full throttle. Pull the aircraft to a 45 degree up line and establish this line and immediately roll the aircraft inverted. Establish this line and let go of the elevator stick. Ideally the aircraft will continue to track on that 45 degree line for several hundred feet before slowly starting to level off. Adjust the position of your battery to achieve this flight condition.</b></span></p><p><span style="font-family: arial;"><span style="font-family: arial;">Plagiarism aside, I am aware I</span><span style="font-family: arial;"> made this as simple as possible, but that is the point. I can't cite you all the aerodynamic theory that goes into it, I just know the manual works, I follow that and setting up CG is so simple it's been reduced to merely time consuming instead of black magic.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: arial;">I like to mix a lot of precision in with my 3D to get a well-rounded presentation, so I like the roll over and 45 degree tests. If the plane flies upright and inverted trimmed, to me that's a little tail-heavy for what I am doing. Being just a tiny bit nose heavy locks the plane in and makes it track better, and if that sacrifices a little 3D it's not enough to notice.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: arial;">Also my personal observation is every time I have not been happy with a plane, it was tail heavy, so I suggest starting at the front of the suggested range and slowly working back 1/4" at a time. Generally, the more you go back, the plane gets better, until it gets worse. I go for worse and then put the pack where I had it the last time I was happy with it.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: arial;">Things I look for to avoid is a plane that won't trim on the elevator or won't do the same thing from one test to the next. That's usually an indication you are tail heavy. Conversely a nose heavy plane always flies nose heavy. Roll it over and if it drops like a pig you know you are nose heavy.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: arial;">Eventually you will learn just how fast you want the plane to drop and how much you have to move the pack to make corrections, There is no easy path to this knowledge except lots and lots of stick time and experience. You not only have to learn to tune the plane, but also to get it to where you like it personally. This is why I tried to simplify the tests as much as possible.</span></p><br /><b>A Set Up Snafu Of My Own Making</b><br />Below is an illustration of how much set up plays it's part in pilot confidence. My radio only has two rates, so I opted for low/insane. It's a Velox and it's supposed to be wild, right? The plane scared me a bit and I was not comfortable with it. The stability was there and the plane's most notable attribute, so I knew that, like everything else, that set up was the answer. I was going to get it right or bring it back in a bucket, and since I was uncomfortable, there was nothing to lose and everything to gain. I went back to the 3D rates, and this was the very first flight, in bad conditions no less, with the revised set up. This turned the Velox from a plane I was ready to give up on into one of the best planes I've ever had my hands on.<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-family: arial;"><iframe allow="autoplay; fullscreen; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="360" src="https://player.vimeo.com/video/365650216?h=6b3bccecf0" width="640"></iframe></span></p><p style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-family: arial;"><a href="https://vimeo.com/365650216">3DHS Velox__Doc Austin's Day Off</a> from <a href="https://vimeo.com/user714849">Doc Austin</a> on <a href="https://vimeo.com">Vimeo</a>.</span></p><span style="font-family: arial;">
</span><p></p><p style="text-align: center;"><b style="font-size: x-large;">Mixes</b></p><b>Knife Edge Mix</b></div><div>For more advanced flying you need a plane that tracks like an arrow, even when it is on it's side. For example, in knife edge a plane can tuck toward or away from the canopy, so the best answer is to use a rudder (master) to elevator (slave) mix. For my style (or lack of), I start with a mix of 5% up elevator to left rudder and 3% to right rudder. That usually gets them really dialed in, but it is just a starting point because different CGs will react differently.<br /><br />Look at it this way, when the plane is on it's side, the elevator, in relation to the ground, the elevator is acting more like a rudder because now that controls your yaw, and the rudder controls your pitch, in relation to the ground, that is. The ground is what you don't want to hit so it simplifies things to look at it that way.</div><div><br /></div><div>If you are carrying any elevator trim, that will make the plane tuck either way. This is why you need to get the plane trimmed and balanced dead on before you get your mix set.</div><div><br /></div><div><b>Other Mixes (In Progress)</b></div><div>There are also some other mixes I use to aid landing, but you can read about that here: <a href="https://docaustinextreme.blogspot.com/" target="_blank"><span face="Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif" style="color: #33aaff;"><span style="font-size: 13.5px; text-indent: -15px;"><b>Smoothing Out The 3D Landing</b></span></span></a></div><div><br /></div><div>Once you get your plane died in, you might find a spolieron mix improves your harrier and elevator performance. Once you lean how to use it, it's quite helpful, and you can read bout it here: <a href="https://docaustinextreme.blogspot.com/2015/03/laser-expthe-spoileron-files.html" target="_blank"><b>Laser EXP__The Spoileron Files</b></a></div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div><div>For now I just wanted a basic primer to aid the new guys. I'll add more stuff as I think about it some more, but hopefully you will find it helpful.</div><div><div style="text-indent: -15px;"><u style="font-size: 13.5px;"><span face="Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif" style="color: #33aaff;"><br /></span></u></div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgN2BdkK2Z3tHDdny1qSJsAQHS1rdL6INmhUNq06GG5M7QF-ET1s7JqE-HlOeEtMrOD-xU5Xdx_Db4l3Euuu74HUFkEziKhX0wkT21GgrA6yNBdOyy7546DH7ZufuZ9ateJdDiPAMZ9ASf9YGHfdyiGEvHXc0jLgKixbrlcKfRBrdTfmr7oVVt7ew8Qbp1q/s3000/Thunder%20Power%20Extra%20NG%20008.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1688" data-original-width="3000" height="360" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgN2BdkK2Z3tHDdny1qSJsAQHS1rdL6INmhUNq06GG5M7QF-ET1s7JqE-HlOeEtMrOD-xU5Xdx_Db4l3Euuu74HUFkEziKhX0wkT21GgrA6yNBdOyy7546DH7ZufuZ9ateJdDiPAMZ9ASf9YGHfdyiGEvHXc0jLgKixbrlcKfRBrdTfmr7oVVt7ew8Qbp1q/w640-h360/Thunder%20Power%20Extra%20NG%20008.jpg" width="640" /></a></div><br /><p><br /></p><p style="text-align: left;"><br /></p><p style="text-align: left;"><br /></p><p style="text-align: left;"><br /></p></div></div>Doc Austinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09358924159613442642noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2245334704739395263.post-88640153093702426312023-11-19T19:26:00.012-05:002023-11-29T23:14:47.336-05:00Skywing 48" Extra NG__More Flying<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhc89c1GhJ5WshE3zY6Okn_B-R4gh0i1_k-hb2qO8nh8iRGHecwcs80sPvbl-8k_LHl3Aww7D0Eb3iTQSQtH4xcuizIZ24wHXh_2lVfse4Zc_eyIR_Ihbr1yONt6cTgOqqhN2JtolumJUqxmgqSmwhhnFOo8ZFmiSG0M3FjJZIq9BgB1NgU6PsbyoXvd4rS/s3000/Thunder%20Power%20Extra%20NG%20001.bmp" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1688" data-original-width="3000" height="360" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhc89c1GhJ5WshE3zY6Okn_B-R4gh0i1_k-hb2qO8nh8iRGHecwcs80sPvbl-8k_LHl3Aww7D0Eb3iTQSQtH4xcuizIZ24wHXh_2lVfse4Zc_eyIR_Ihbr1yONt6cTgOqqhN2JtolumJUqxmgqSmwhhnFOo8ZFmiSG0M3FjJZIq9BgB1NgU6PsbyoXvd4rS/w640-h360/Thunder%20Power%20Extra%20NG%20001.bmp" width="640" /></a></div><br />As you may have seen in <a href="http://docaustinextreme.blogspot.com/2023/11/skywing-48-extra-ng.html">Skywing 48" Extra NG__Flight Testing</a>, I was pretty pleased with this plane. I knew I was going to like it because it's an Extra, and I knew it would be light and tough because of my experiences with the Skywing Slick. Like the Slick, the NG surpassed my expectations, and I can't wait to see what I can discover about her next.<p>I've already laid out the plane's basic character in the pervious article, so here I will be going into specifics.</p><p>There was so much to go into with this plane the article ended up a little long, so if you're after the video scroll to the bottom.</p><p><b>Stall Turns</b><br />Some might wonder why I talk about a basic maneuver that's not spectacular or hard to do, but there's more to it when you try to work them. With this plane you can put an interesting twist into the move that's so much fun you'll start doing lots of them.</p><div> I carried a bit more momentum into it and yawed the plane early, so it was still climbing while rotating on the yaw axis, sort of sliding a little sideways on the way up. The nose comes around and you dive out and fly away. It's kind of hard to describe it, but that's why we have video. Oddly the plane is going one way and pointed another through the turn, but it doesn't look sloppy. It looks controlled, but loose and free. It's actually delightful to fly it through the turn, sliding and all, and reveals the plane's lively but stable nature.</div><div><div><br /></div><div>This was just something cool I discovered by accident. I've done it before with the Velox, but on this NG I could repeat the maneuver and hit it every single time, like that's almost how the plane wanted to do it anyway. You're sliding the plane through a stall but it never goes off line or acts weird. I can hit it 10 out of 10 times no sweat just because it does that so easily. It's just a demonstration of how willing the plane is when you chuck it into a maneuver. </div><div><br /></div><div>Stall turns teach you how to fly into a stall, maneuver through it and recover, all essential sport skills that translates into post stall, and something a good sport pilot has already mastered. New guys however, would be well advised to embrace this and work it to improve those skills. Having a good stall turn down gives you the skills to start working harrier, and we all know that's the key to this 3D thing.</div><div><br /></div><div>The NG is also sweet in a conventional stall turn, and this plane is so much fun this way that I'll probably try a few more variations.</div><div><br /></div><div><b>Slow Rolls</b></div><div>Now we're in the Extra's back yard. The absolute gold standard for this in 4 footers has always been the Extra EXP, and while I did not expect this, the NG is it's match here. At speed the NG locks in hard and little gusts or turbulence don't seem to bother it because it just plows through. This is a fast plane and remember speed is stability.</div><div><br /></div><div>You've got three controls all going at once in a slow roll, and if the plane goes a little off line on any of them it throws the whole control sequence off. It's your job to keep the plane straight, but having one that tracks takes so much load off the pilot. Tracking is so important, and even with it's shorter moment the NG slow rolls as perfectly as any of them. It's not fun to fly a plane that doesn't track, but that's no issue with this baby. </div><div><br /></div><div>This tracking also comes into play during point rolls, which is why I include them here. The important thing here is tracking, yet again. If the plane doesn't track straight, you'll be fighting it at every point in the roll, so you can see the importance of having a straight flying plane.</div><div><br /></div><div>Comparing to the Extra EXP, the NG doesn't give up anything here. Certainly the plane is different, but Extras have always been the benchmark for this and the NG is no different. It took a few tries to dial in the range and start hitting it, but it was really pretty effortless. </div><div><br /></div><div><b>Harrier Performance</b></div><div>While I don't have a scale, I'm pretty sure the NG is the lightest plane I own, and this shows up in really nice harrier performance. The little things Skywing has done to cut weight might seem ridiculous, but every little bit adds up. A gram or two is nothing until you shave that off a few times, but if you save that seemingly insignificant amount enough times the scale never lies.</div><div><br /></div><div>This and the Slick can fly ridiculously slowly, and even if you get it wrong the stall recovery is blindingly fast. Part of this is surely design, aided by light weight, gonzo power and that big 13" prop. You get a huge blast of air over the plane, so whatever lift and control you lost can be regained with the hammer.</div><div><br /></div><div>There's enough post stall control authority that you can get fearless pretty quickly. That and it's got really great confidence inspiring harrier manners. It's not quite as good here as the Slick, but it's still shockingly good. I still get a little rock when I am pushing hard and maybe getting a little sloppy, but I don't feel anything is lacking. I just think the Slick's harrier is irreproachable.</div><div><br /></div><div><b>Hard rotations</b></div><div>This plane has superb pitch authority. The importance is in the balance. It's enough to make the plane do anything you ask, but not so much the plane comes close to getting away from you or being jumpy. The pitch authority is very controllable and even in something as violent as a wall or parachute the plane will rotate straight and come out straight. More throw (and there is plenty of room for that if you turn up the end points) might make it pitch harder, but the way it is I'm happy enough.</div><div><br /></div><div>In something like a parachute you have to be careful not to peg the elevator too long because at full rotation you can stall the plane so completely it might get scary. Best bet is to pop to flat, but lead with a blast of throttle and ease off the stick a little. This is not a scary behavior, but more part of what you have to do to keep air going over the plane and some lift going on. As I am moving the CG forwards this characteristic is more manageable, so I may have been flying it tail heavy the first few flights.</div><div><br /></div><div>Having spent the last 15 years flying long, sleek EXPs, things changed when I moved to these short coupled Skywings. Rotation maneuvers are now so hard you have to be more careful how much you demand. This is not a hard thing because the pilot's job is to adapt, and it's not a problem anyway. You just learn the plane's behavior and fly accordingly. What's nice is unless you go in with the wings not level the plane will pop flat and stay level, while tracking straight ahead. This takes a lot of the scare factor out of it because you aren't going to lose control or even go off line unless you let it completely stall. This is not a problem at all if you have a little altitude, simply because the plane recovers from the stall so instantly, but if you are on the deck you just have to be careful not to blow all the lift completely off.</div><div><br /></div><div>Also I did a wall maneuver that pitched so hard the plane fell on it's back and for an instant it was travelling backward inverted. It was a real Rooster Bradshaw "what the *** was that" moment! I do a lot of high rotation stuff, but that one really surprised me. I've tried to repeat that, but I'm going to have to work it for awhile to get it right, but it certainly showed the plane is a lot more capable than I was expecting.</div><div><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj4eBgx9igy2MN5HptsmtEU7dQsvM1u5wFMc2zezsOkNm8nYCd2-TnLBU5g6D_R_P5CHYtlvqWgKPiA3sTtvyKPvjs67gz_eCbKis42f6Wkp8zimtdbDPXYs2d4OxWOorLeB7De-SgyOPaSIVlYdrCuiKzAdzR5A58TfEt4bNliR2tYK5JVCxBtUIwWuS2e/s3000/Thunder%20Power%20Extra%20NG%20007.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1688" data-original-width="3000" height="360" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj4eBgx9igy2MN5HptsmtEU7dQsvM1u5wFMc2zezsOkNm8nYCd2-TnLBU5g6D_R_P5CHYtlvqWgKPiA3sTtvyKPvjs67gz_eCbKis42f6Wkp8zimtdbDPXYs2d4OxWOorLeB7De-SgyOPaSIVlYdrCuiKzAdzR5A58TfEt4bNliR2tYK5JVCxBtUIwWuS2e/w640-h360/Thunder%20Power%20Extra%20NG%20007.jpg" width="640" /></a></div><br /><div><br /></div><div><b>Stall Recovery</b></div><div>The NG is so comfortable in post stall partially because it's stall recovery is nearly instant. Part of this is the airfoil (which I don't fully understand) and part is certainly that big 13" fan on the nose with all that 6s grunt.</div><div><br /></div><div>One of the first things I learned about 3D is you have to be lightning fast on the throttle, and sometimes anticipate it. Here the modern power systems not only provide more grunt, but it's instant, and can be more easily modulated than older systems. I can't say enough for how much extra control afforded by that extra inch of prop. </div><div><br /></div><div>Knowing you can recover from a stall so quickly allows you to fly deeper into it and get yourself out of it if you got it wrong. It makes the plane more fun to fly knowing you can thrash it like that and it won't bite you.</div><div><br /></div><div><b>Snap Manners And Timing</b></div><div>I struggled with the snap timing on my Slick and finally figured it out, but that wasn't necessary with the Extra. Right off the bat I was hitting my snaps the same way I am used to with an EXP, so in this respect snapping and spinning is instinctual.</div><div><br /></div><div>One area the plane is exceptionally strong is in power spins. You do these with full elevator and rudder, with a little opposite aileron to keep the wings level, and give it a little power. This speeds up the spin and if you hit it right slows the descent. I tried a few throttle settings, including wide open, and she spun around like a big frisbee.</div><div><br /></div><div>Most 3D planes on high rate don't do a conventional spins (up and full right everything) very well, but I discovered if you go right, right, down the plane does a super tight spin, maybe a little fast, and when you release the controls it stops all on it's own instantly. This is a good one to teach the new guys simply because the plane recovers so fast it's not scary. You can pinpoint your exit with dead on precision, and of course that simply gives you confidence.</div><div><br /></div><div>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://vimeo.com/886280944">Skywing 48__Extra NG Sport Hucking 2023 002</a> from <a href="https://vimeo.com/user714849">Doc Austin</a> on <a href="https://vimeo.com">Vimeo</a>.</p>
<iframe allow="autoplay; fullscreen; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="360" src="https://player.vimeo.com/video/886252539?h=7ca8072d12" width="640"></iframe><p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://vimeo.com/886252539">Skywing 48__Extra NG Sport Hucking 2023 001</a> from <a href="https://vimeo.com/user714849">Doc Austin</a> on <a href="https://vimeo.com">Vimeo</a>.</p><div><b>Knife Edge Performance</b></div>Here it's very much like the Slick. Again tracking is important, with the benefit of authority. </div><div><br /></div><div>Few things are as unsettling than trying to KE a poorly tracking plane, especially down low, but the NG is so locked in I'll really be working on improving my game with this plane.</div><div><br /></div><div>Additionally, nothing is more horrifying than KEing down low with a mushy rudder response, and that's not a worry with this plane. The fat fuselage sides provide lifting surface as do the nice SFGs and even flying it down in a death slide doesn't require full deflection until you get pretty slow. KE is still a little scary for me, so this solid tracking and control authority is just what I needed.</div><div><br /></div><div><b>General</b></div><div>Like all Extras, the NG has that overall feel of smoothness, gracefulness and solid locked in control. Where the NG differs from previous Extras is the short coupling makes the plane more lively, all while giving up nothing in smoothness. The EXP still has the edge in being smooth, but with a longer tail you would expect this and it is not a day and night thing.</div><div><br /></div><div> As much as I have loved the Extra EXP for the last 15 years, it was a little surprising I compare the two so favorably. Admittedly the two are both similar and different at the same time. It's also really not fair to compare a plane I have thousands of flights on to one with only a handful, but still the NG comes out looking really good.</div><div><br /></div><div>The plane is solid and reassuring, and there is nothing to be afraid of once you adjust to this new level of agility. Any good intermediate sport pilot can fly this thing around on low rates with more confidence than even something like a T28, which makes the plane absolutely idea for sport flying. No matter what level you are with your aerobatics, you can handle this plane no problem, with room to use it to improve your game.</div><div><br /></div><div>Past all the specific qualities, the plane is just fun to fly, which is probably it's most endearing quality. I'm betting most of you will know what you have after a lap or two and you'll be pushing the plane in no time.</div><div><br /></div><div>Overall, an easy project that yielded big results. </div><div><br /></div><div><b>Set Up</b></div><div>Well, it was already done when you got it, right? I used the arms the way they came on the elevator and rudder with my end points at 100. Where I deviated was running a little less aileron because that's what I am used to. I used a shorter 7/8" Skywing plastic arm and regained my resolution by cranking the end points. I'm right at 31-32 degrees, which is exactly what I have been using on my other 48s. I did this with my Slick and continued that with the NG, and for me it was a very positive change. The plane gives up nothing other that it won't do blinding rifle rolls that I can't keep up with anyway. Most people will be happy with the set up the way it comes out of the box. This was a change simply to suit my personal preference.</div><div><br /></div><div>You can read about this here: <span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-size: 18px;"><a href="http://docaustinextreme.blogspot.com/2023/10/skywing-48-extra-ng-receiver-ready.html" target="_blank">Skywing 48" Extra NG Receiver ready.</a></span></div><div><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-size: 18px;"><br /></span></div><p> And don't forget about that low rate because that makes precision much easier and cleaner.</p><div><br /><div>As far as CG, mine came out on the tube, though I moved the pack forward 1/2 so the nose would hang a little. This is just the way I prefer them because a little ahead of neutral doesn't compromise 3D, but it makes the plane track much better. It's an Extra, so there's the one attribute you need to play to.</div><div><br /></div><div>Best bet is to set it up the way it comes out of the box and fly it, kind of like we do with all new planes.</div></div><div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjwOXpT-LmddENynP1xExoO5qtWnq7a2ps1QEPYvl4zBgaZ3163cl6np8nmTiivZ6X1ujQiMb38C1rd5s1qHmUZHycVOutSh6fip-af7uuLYGTLJcok8yhSPTPed92Yxqt65VhCF2ueVhRYnTc7GO4pWzpHCJ7CaR5YDVG6MX9AA9JMWgFcxu9ct_RObDzV/s3000/Thunder%20Power%20Extra%20NG%20013.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1688" data-original-width="3000" height="360" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjwOXpT-LmddENynP1xExoO5qtWnq7a2ps1QEPYvl4zBgaZ3163cl6np8nmTiivZ6X1ujQiMb38C1rd5s1qHmUZHycVOutSh6fip-af7uuLYGTLJcok8yhSPTPed92Yxqt65VhCF2ueVhRYnTc7GO4pWzpHCJ7CaR5YDVG6MX9AA9JMWgFcxu9ct_RObDzV/w640-h360/Thunder%20Power%20Extra%20NG%20013.jpg" width="640" /></a></div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div></div></div>Doc Austinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09358924159613442642noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2245334704739395263.post-64224285010500171482023-11-12T17:07:00.012-05:002023-11-14T16:35:50.300-05:00Skywing 48" Extra NG__Flight Testing<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiLRSSDPOVCasQ-Af5CY5ugPLrfOfc6wpR1HOO0dPy2LabE_kUfO0n8oofLqkVNJwx_XgCooMaBCbe13avaaVyls95Oe0Go-DJjGzIh_ws5JyrdvDp31pg_Nujbm6I92Gps3dcE0donQS7utFS_47Os-5KBLsn06NnJgdcXXjReQJk1t4MwHqv06JkLZThZ/s3000/Thunder%20Power%20Extra%20NG%20002.bmp" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1688" data-original-width="3000" height="360" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiLRSSDPOVCasQ-Af5CY5ugPLrfOfc6wpR1HOO0dPy2LabE_kUfO0n8oofLqkVNJwx_XgCooMaBCbe13avaaVyls95Oe0Go-DJjGzIh_ws5JyrdvDp31pg_Nujbm6I92Gps3dcE0donQS7utFS_47Os-5KBLsn06NnJgdcXXjReQJk1t4MwHqv06JkLZThZ/w640-h360/Thunder%20Power%20Extra%20NG%20002.bmp" width="640" /></a></div><div><b><br /></b></div><div><b><br /></b></div><div><b>Day One</b><br />All we wanted to do was check the trims and get a good general feel for the plane. That lasted about 30 seconds and I simply forgot the game plan and just started flying it hard. It is so similar to the Slick I knew what I had pretty quickly.<div><br /></div><div>This is a very stable plane, but it's also pretty lively. It snaps and tumbles really well, slows down into a beautiful harrier, and does beautiful slow and point rolls. There's nothing it doesn't do well.</div><div><br /></div><div>So far, I'm really liking the plane. The plane was dead neutral on the check flight, and I like them a little ahead of that. I moved the pack 1/2" forward and now it's exactly the way I like it. It's kind of amazing the plane comes out of the box nearly tweaked out like that. 30 minutes to assemble, one simple adjustment and it's perfection. Absolutely remarkable.</div><div><br /></div><div> I was comfortable with the NG very quickly, and at the end of the second flight I was fearless with it. </div><div><b><br /></b></div><div style="text-align: center;"><b><span style="color: red;">Click to enlarge, then right click and "save as."</span></b></div><div style="text-align: center;"><b><span style="color: red;"><br /></span></b></div><div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgVmfWWpdBOQJqr6W_Bs0sR1XuHzFt8wATzBCb4CjKct5qMPeLyFxAHHtGMI1oHDADfs5HttFySjwck7KWF6mo8JhjtoQdZ1-bdBP1hrkluczs-DiYjNQ8l-rT8rBIUaN-Mm-JO8DJstUuq_D7m1JAN_aHm5Ka3P_SSJRNGgcgJKb9LovEQcL9ZvwrUXKtv/s3000/Skying%2048%20NG%20Artwork%200001.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1688" data-original-width="3000" height="113" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgVmfWWpdBOQJqr6W_Bs0sR1XuHzFt8wATzBCb4CjKct5qMPeLyFxAHHtGMI1oHDADfs5HttFySjwck7KWF6mo8JhjtoQdZ1-bdBP1hrkluczs-DiYjNQ8l-rT8rBIUaN-Mm-JO8DJstUuq_D7m1JAN_aHm5Ka3P_SSJRNGgcgJKb9LovEQcL9ZvwrUXKtv/w200-h113/Skying%2048%20NG%20Artwork%200001.jpg" width="200" /></a><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh0opUxMWuB6i84VwrCJGEDZcbO39a6jqywhRDdvT5IsjbYszOqCc3G53TaYZG9sSfinP43WE9VwaP1dGZ9at-i7eMl68UWbd3D0_XU-S3-V-FqGOTyhkyRpqRaY9ydSlCNKCYCZc9ZUzXg7wXqUHeKetdP3_EH08ro51d0BL1e1ctqKVwk9nOjYLZshioe/s3000/Skying%2048%20NG%20Artwork%200002.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1688" data-original-width="3000" height="113" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh0opUxMWuB6i84VwrCJGEDZcbO39a6jqywhRDdvT5IsjbYszOqCc3G53TaYZG9sSfinP43WE9VwaP1dGZ9at-i7eMl68UWbd3D0_XU-S3-V-FqGOTyhkyRpqRaY9ydSlCNKCYCZc9ZUzXg7wXqUHeKetdP3_EH08ro51d0BL1e1ctqKVwk9nOjYLZshioe/w200-h113/Skying%2048%20NG%20Artwork%200002.jpg" width="200" /></a></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhDPq8NZa_j-sDkWq8hEU-vuqsd4eIhLWib1oK1CV8RNP-uc_qlAIzxvHe7XyY-UwMqGBrEzUJWzzQsXO8bKlwHPdsCj6LDwSW9OOvNdjgfp_6f6CrwTIL3q6liB_8dIUprpCCdRKkllrZK_ksLtBwQcgnAkN2Qsay_T0Tk-KI19uIiwSeqQ_7K4P10fjrH/s3000/Skying%2048%20NG%20Artwork%200003.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1688" data-original-width="3000" height="225" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhDPq8NZa_j-sDkWq8hEU-vuqsd4eIhLWib1oK1CV8RNP-uc_qlAIzxvHe7XyY-UwMqGBrEzUJWzzQsXO8bKlwHPdsCj6LDwSW9OOvNdjgfp_6f6CrwTIL3q6liB_8dIUprpCCdRKkllrZK_ksLtBwQcgnAkN2Qsay_T0Tk-KI19uIiwSeqQ_7K4P10fjrH/w400-h225/Skying%2048%20NG%20Artwork%200003.jpg" width="400" /></a></div></div><div><br /></div><div><b>Day Two </b></div><div><div style="text-align: left;">After two quick flights on day one I was already comfortable with the plane. I just couldn't lean on it too much until we got some decent weather and video in the can. Once that was accomplished, it was just a matter of flying the plane and testing the limits.</div><div style="text-align: left;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: left;">We only had enough time to shoot one video, but hopefully you can see how much potential the plane has. This was only the third flight and I was still tweaking the CG and still not sure how much I could push the plane. Right now my flying is looking a little ragged because I am pushing the plane so hard, and this was also the first time I've flown her in decent conditions. The first day was so rough that this was more like the plane's real maiden, but it is so smooth, stable and confidence inspiring that I just gave it the hammer. </div><div style="text-align: left;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: left;">Right away the plane was so much fun I kind of forgot about video and started to look for the limits. You can see a couple of pretty good saves in the video, but it was more like I bailed before I got in too deep. Here I noted that the plane has so much power and so much control that I wasn't afraid to get into trouble. The plane has the tools you need to fight your way out.</div><div style="text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg2EcK4n32GCsa6Qroy_kqNzPvrLKx3QHIdM79QWs18-34V3_zk-WaKzs9kDrkFnzdwX47IXLLLehxejCp81MBerYtng53CdvXSPMEy1b-t_GYtUodCgRjt5FEmn9djdlwbFNeYwS2NOBqHrTslQJobSS5dghJNQl4iudQGPNO_4_YBkAIAzOZ7RkwzUwlf/s3000/Skying%2048%20NG%20Artwork%200004.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1688" data-original-width="3000" height="225" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg2EcK4n32GCsa6Qroy_kqNzPvrLKx3QHIdM79QWs18-34V3_zk-WaKzs9kDrkFnzdwX47IXLLLehxejCp81MBerYtng53CdvXSPMEy1b-t_GYtUodCgRjt5FEmn9djdlwbFNeYwS2NOBqHrTslQJobSS5dghJNQl4iudQGPNO_4_YBkAIAzOZ7RkwzUwlf/w400-h225/Skying%2048%20NG%20Artwork%200004.jpg" width="400" /></a></div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjMN53F7JjRrm9uMjgk_5BeNsuymWmVCdxTWMaNhC7EucQhfe4uxMoDcqD5lIYjTVDEvf8yTgCZOgBKlGm4o8_Rh5QpPwqJi14EK8EtU52IoNtEi1pU2kjoua5r2MZRMb8CA320lrmbCFT7o09FKF9I9nerdzShoYDPe6gLMaO7JOQAIzSHBG8Pax1hZWQm/s3000/Skying%2048%20NG%20Artwork%200005.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1688" data-original-width="3000" height="113" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjMN53F7JjRrm9uMjgk_5BeNsuymWmVCdxTWMaNhC7EucQhfe4uxMoDcqD5lIYjTVDEvf8yTgCZOgBKlGm4o8_Rh5QpPwqJi14EK8EtU52IoNtEi1pU2kjoua5r2MZRMb8CA320lrmbCFT7o09FKF9I9nerdzShoYDPe6gLMaO7JOQAIzSHBG8Pax1hZWQm/w200-h113/Skying%2048%20NG%20Artwork%200005.jpg" width="200" /></a><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgO3osSIs_mSaBZMINk9XXwRlUYw53FSvO6TRWLdM1Rkk7nMjU5Gz1gH8pkuGEH3B0YTOV3SvkRpkQeVx8IhqUbjOAZBz2nMN7Gq71aEBxYKssPOik35XXV19L7jk0eOZbNMuf3VB4tYUGaYtbJu3RaaizI-nTpKLxa3r0OdaBvm6K8lnKA7yho53Mk0t5Q/s3000/Skying%2048%20NG%20Artwork%200006.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1688" data-original-width="3000" height="113" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgO3osSIs_mSaBZMINk9XXwRlUYw53FSvO6TRWLdM1Rkk7nMjU5Gz1gH8pkuGEH3B0YTOV3SvkRpkQeVx8IhqUbjOAZBz2nMN7Gq71aEBxYKssPOik35XXV19L7jk0eOZbNMuf3VB4tYUGaYtbJu3RaaizI-nTpKLxa3r0OdaBvm6K8lnKA7yho53Mk0t5Q/w200-h113/Skying%2048%20NG%20Artwork%200006.jpg" width="200" /></a></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div></div><div style="text-align: left;">Toward the end it became easier and easier to fly the plane more smoothly, which was due to burning off the excitement as much as anything else. </div><div style="text-align: left;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: left;">Mostly it's just easy to fly and pinpoint precise, which is what you expect and demand from an Extra. Now we see the differences to the Slick a little better. The Slick has slightly better harrier manners, though the Extra is still really strong here. The flip side is the Extra has a more predictable and repeatable snap timing. The Slick scared me a little at first in snap rolls because I had to learn how to make it come out where I wanted it, but with the Extra my snaps were dead on right out of the box. That's really about all the differences I have found so far. They have the same wing and tail, and roughly the same moment, so they were always going to be similar. I think most guys won't care about the differences, or maybe not even notice at all because they are so subtle, and they never come into play unless you are really pushing the plane hard. </div><div style="text-align: left;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: left;">No report on an Extra is complete without talking about the plane's precision manners. Big sky stuff is easy for a few reasons. First this plane really hauls the mail, and speed is stability. For example, my 48" EXP was always superb here, but when I switched to TMotor and about 20mph more top speed, the difference in how the plane locked int was mind-blowing. The NG already has a nuclear reactor in the nose, so it hauls too, and this shows up in the field length slow rolls and huge cuban 8s. The plane simply tracks to the point looking good in precision is simply easy. I said I would not compare this with the 48" EXP, but here I just have to note both of those planes are the benchmarks in precision in this size, with the Slick not far behind.</div><div style="text-align: left;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: left;">One thing that caught me by surprise is this plane has insane pitch authority. You can see in a lot of hard pull outs the tail actually drops below the plane. Other planes will sink, but the Extra pops a little past flat and stops losing any altitude because stall recovery is so instant. Maybe this is due to the design, or maybe it's all the grunt behind a 13" propeller blowing air over the plane, but once you get used to it this is a pretty handy tool to have for on-the-deck shenanigans. I have not figured that out yet because this plane is so much fun that I paid more attention to that than analytics.</div><div style="text-align: left;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: left;">A quick word about the power system: it's <i>super bad ass</i>. More power than a reasonable person would need and runs as smooth as a stick of butter. I rate it an equal in every metric with the TMotor. They have the same power, same smoothness and same perfectly linear throttle response. All that's different is the sound.</div><div style="text-align: left;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: left;">Overall, and I know I also said this about the Slick, it's hard to be more pleased with a project. The assembly was next to nothing, I only had to make one set up change to suit my preference and she flew of the bench very close to perfectly dialed in. A couple of clicks of up trim and so far that's been all she took.</div><div style="text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgjh3FrLbRhYu98BXt33yCVkDpAZ4-f23NCVrshn8xoFntx4U7IsZrSTSG2zwhaSY1I681MQwOyIgnWgUb-qqgcEY5TQIMcHZaleVhT4iKXrHPz84sfamDOuuftvoOgu2cTK_kjQlTR_CPwh4sEssGaDLyoRiwdSgwTwPhpuXq5FODqfvpqraMBQjsrQvA9/s3000/Skying%2048%20NG%20Artwork%200007.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1688" data-original-width="3000" height="113" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgjh3FrLbRhYu98BXt33yCVkDpAZ4-f23NCVrshn8xoFntx4U7IsZrSTSG2zwhaSY1I681MQwOyIgnWgUb-qqgcEY5TQIMcHZaleVhT4iKXrHPz84sfamDOuuftvoOgu2cTK_kjQlTR_CPwh4sEssGaDLyoRiwdSgwTwPhpuXq5FODqfvpqraMBQjsrQvA9/w200-h113/Skying%2048%20NG%20Artwork%200007.jpg" width="200" /></a><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh_wzwtbbS31Uf0O2R72FMJxeywod1Qe0NyTMeTKbrK2RyARJGy_Xsiuq3edDdC8FeQM2ASQTOI73kM1YZClEYkGbN3PBRtUdAuTcgdtpDtaAohMXMW20iDUsBrO7_mV8N-jSvd2mSsEe_I-wGxHGudQNBHUrX6SoEZHiJLNjRyBX3qbqDbd0bRnoAxX4U_/s3000/Skying%2048%20NG%20Artwork%200008.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1688" data-original-width="3000" height="113" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh_wzwtbbS31Uf0O2R72FMJxeywod1Qe0NyTMeTKbrK2RyARJGy_Xsiuq3edDdC8FeQM2ASQTOI73kM1YZClEYkGbN3PBRtUdAuTcgdtpDtaAohMXMW20iDUsBrO7_mV8N-jSvd2mSsEe_I-wGxHGudQNBHUrX6SoEZHiJLNjRyBX3qbqDbd0bRnoAxX4U_/w200-h113/Skying%2048%20NG%20Artwork%200008.jpg" width="200" /></a></div></div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiXqYeexwfLCTuyiUF55qPObmErZr-S2d2cpYIGqzHK1C2xbSD2504wES0Cxj-WLtRVztr9raPQxA4QXrXD5_bKeXDYzqadR8duGIAXVgbOUDy0J6VVCVSIzni1PeDrxMfFsGHQJ-2SlBrk-9Yvb83sKF0nth37GD5-D9QjdOA1H_GD67MO2xwcgTXx8gJq/s3000/Skying%2048%20NG%20Artwork%200009.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1688" data-original-width="3000" height="180" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiXqYeexwfLCTuyiUF55qPObmErZr-S2d2cpYIGqzHK1C2xbSD2504wES0Cxj-WLtRVztr9raPQxA4QXrXD5_bKeXDYzqadR8duGIAXVgbOUDy0J6VVCVSIzni1PeDrxMfFsGHQJ-2SlBrk-9Yvb83sKF0nth37GD5-D9QjdOA1H_GD67MO2xwcgTXx8gJq/s320/Skying%2048%20NG%20Artwork%200009.jpg" width="320" /></a></div><br /><div style="text-align: left;">Before my camera guy got there I did a warm up flight on low rates, which simulates a sport set up, and she's as easy and capable as any sport plane I've ever flown, This makes such a perfect sport plane I think the new guys will eat it up. Perfect size, cheap batteries, tough and docile makes this plane almost mandatory for all of us.</div><div style="text-align: left;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: left;">Here's something few consider: The best kept secret in the sport community is that any good 3D plane on low rates makes an excellent sport plane, and any many, many cases it makes a better sport plane than the best sport planes. </div><div style="text-align: left;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: left;">On low rates the Extra is much like the EXP lineup in that it's delightful in conventional aerobatics. I try to bring a lot of guys into 3D, and I usually take them from something like a T28, and put them straight into a 48" 3D plane and make them keep it on low rates. First they tell me it flies better than their T28 because they are not always fighting it, and once I can show them a few tricks they can't believe how easy it is. Generally 3D manufacturers don't cater to the sport crowd and pitch their stuff to us hammerheads, but the best way for a sport pilot to get good enough to transition into 3D, now all it takes is a flip of that rate switch. This Extra is light, straight, tough and super stable, which are all the things you want in a sport plane anyway.</div><div style="text-align: left;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: left;"><b>Conclusions, sort of</b></div><div style="text-align: left;">Some may notice this report is a little disjointed. I sat down right after I got home and started writing, and the more I wrote and the more I edited the video the more I realize just how much was there and how much I like it. I've had to edit about 10 times because the more I wrote the more I realized just how nice this thing is.</div><div style="text-align: left;"><b><br /></b></div><div style="text-align: left;">Four flights isn't enough time to hardly know a plane, much less pass judgement on it, but it was enough time to really fall in love with it. It generally takes about 25 flights to really know a plane, but since today was the start of flying season here, that's not going to take long. </div><div style="text-align: left;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: left;">We'll shoot some more this week and tag it onto this article, as well as some more commentary, so stay tuned.</div><div style="text-align: center;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: center;">
<iframe allow="autoplay; fullscreen; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="360" src="https://player.vimeo.com/video/883793051?h=ac5b338be9" width="640"></iframe></div><p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://vimeo.com/883793051">Skywing 48 NG__Unspecified Testing</a> from <a href="https://vimeo.com/user714849">Doc Austin</a> on <a href="https://vimeo.com">Vimeo</a>.</p></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"> </div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiTXzf03swC3WjqSejXiOC5VvBFlus6EdEQ8SGoKrR0LpedrIdjYjO65feKlfVx35xRaAAQ1SmU8cSXYB7VPpTs3EO__RRe3Gpyfpof1f4ntkT2PYTF7LGgsvwCOV7F_K6QZEfinaoNYG8pULnkgD4L5zdC362hEv7P1uytS__QHnxf9aAEoDYHgTu2UBwU/s3000/Skying%2048%20NG%20Artwork%200011.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; 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margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1688" data-original-width="3000" height="360" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEglTyKQF0zi4FfhZXcAkdD6y1ge-J2tKkZ9Zs3UQU989uBXqdwomOd70KXS0Z9sEir-5i7q_0WpCDmfP3WjfFrT0nOhnBxcpcqC00A0Jk3mv7gsKq18g6cz6SxHFC7S_U3KPhb2C7kKS6COI5HZ6LQi-UKfsooAiIUlMOewPWtT8dbhldnHM0tPRYsL80hu/w640-h360/Skying%2048%20NG%20Artwork4.jpg" width="640" /></a></div><br /><p></p><p>As much as I love Extras, I couldn't wait to get my hands on the new Skywing 48" NG. I was so pleased with my Skywing 48" Slick PNP that I've really been looking forward to this plane. Extras suit my style (or lack thereof) really well. I've never had an Extra that I didn't like. Extras have always been my go-to plane, the one I use to open up with when I go to events, the ones I use to test new equipment, or use to experiment with set ups. They are what I fly when I can't afford to for anything to go wrong. I've always said that whatever an Extra does, that's how a plane is <i>supposed to do it.</i></p><p>What I am not going to do here is compare this plane to the Extreme Flight Extra EXP. I've been flying the EXP for 12 years, so that really wouldn't be fair to either plane. What I am going to do is fly the crap out of this one it and tell you what I like about it, which is considerable.</p><p>Having looked the photos and the kit over carefully, there's much different in assembly from the 48" Slick PNP. You can read about that here: <b><a href="http://docaustinextreme.blogspot.com/2023/03/48-slick-360-v2receiver-ready-goodness.html" target="_blank"> Skywing 48" Slick Receiver Ready</a></b></p><p><b><i><span style="color: red; font-size: x-small;">Right click to enlarge any photo:</span></i></b></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg1ID_zyXbFMVSDJPx32p5XKoyvyjoboAGLfbraRKet0qRs6_hk_khdF5H8egAm3LcR-o5_TL16Fvp1z2-0ehy-J4_2afTZIFrwyJOVzRD42_foMG-ZNMwEwmXig8iidkxYpYlxmocuHM76RdYT7NJasbH4BD69DHVSUR8K5y3ikjNpjYv-_Acp1528R7JE/s4032/20231025_152105.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="2268" data-original-width="4032" height="360" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg1ID_zyXbFMVSDJPx32p5XKoyvyjoboAGLfbraRKet0qRs6_hk_khdF5H8egAm3LcR-o5_TL16Fvp1z2-0ehy-J4_2afTZIFrwyJOVzRD42_foMG-ZNMwEwmXig8iidkxYpYlxmocuHM76RdYT7NJasbH4BD69DHVSUR8K5y3ikjNpjYv-_Acp1528R7JE/w640-h360/20231025_152105.jpg" width="640" /></a></div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; 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His photos are really good, so I suggest you give it a look: <a href="https://www.skywing-rc.com/product_90107.html">PNP-48"Extra NG 1.2M - RC SKYWING MODEL (skywing-rc.com)</a> Specs are on this page also, including the power system and servos.<div><div><br /></div>Starting at the front, the power system is installed, ESC, cowling, spinner and prop are already mounted. The spinner gap is nice and tight. I usually take pride in getting a perfect spinner gap, but this is as perfect as I could have done it anyway, so was pleased enough to just fly it. A really nice surprise is the prop (13/6.5) came out balanced even better than I could do it. I hate balancing props, so this was a really nice feature. <div><br /></div><div>One thing I really appreciate about the power system is that all the wires are the perfect length. You don't have to zip tie the wires to keep them from rubbing the cowling, or worse, getting rubbed by the motor. You can see what a ridiculously clean installation this is, and you know how I like clean installations. The ESC (listed as a Skywing/52A/7.4V/5A) is roughly the size of your pinkie finger, or about 1/3 the size and weight of what we were using before. I was skeptical when I saw how small it was, but it does the job perfectly.</div><div><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhkq1DovbbG7-z95UrOAWICeIDOACLBnvoamlnzDq501BgykFyduYhyphenhyphenf_WVhBxO2aGOVAB05EZr5srms0O1k2EqNRVwv9eLO4fk0ry_6IoLBANuXItwbiv4eA9EuKGp_zbfWfwotWngiWVwt8V3X85AmdVaKqNYO6gnEadA5Nh8DLji4cp5ukinEkl9-POP/s4032/20231021_152518.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="2268" data-original-width="4032" height="225" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhkq1DovbbG7-z95UrOAWICeIDOACLBnvoamlnzDq501BgykFyduYhyphenhyphenf_WVhBxO2aGOVAB05EZr5srms0O1k2EqNRVwv9eLO4fk0ry_6IoLBANuXItwbiv4eA9EuKGp_zbfWfwotWngiWVwt8V3X85AmdVaKqNYO6gnEadA5Nh8DLji4cp5ukinEkl9-POP/w400-h225/20231021_152518.jpg" width="400" /></a></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiDkq-enub4O7RC-K7OJiJNbknLNkQ7LCrLjBECW4-aLQqnoegwiO1gawMMKeS5dixeWn9wxsJhEoimpzfEgres6cckoAL0IzuD3DwKHcszabI_TTAwFiJBVmSH-iB8CwWg5Y2bRt2AF96xfv6_uEUkp0D-6bH6LOafXsX3-W8jHO2PqpuhBrjPz66kVhDS/s4032/20231021_152541.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="2268" data-original-width="4032" height="225" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiDkq-enub4O7RC-K7OJiJNbknLNkQ7LCrLjBECW4-aLQqnoegwiO1gawMMKeS5dixeWn9wxsJhEoimpzfEgres6cckoAL0IzuD3DwKHcszabI_TTAwFiJBVmSH-iB8CwWg5Y2bRt2AF96xfv6_uEUkp0D-6bH6LOafXsX3-W8jHO2PqpuhBrjPz66kVhDS/w400-h225/20231021_152541.jpg" width="400" /></a></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div>The motor is the Skywing/Dualsky 3548-KV535, which is a really nice little piece. It runs cool and smooth, and the ESC assures a nice, progressive power delivery. I've been flying TMotors in my Extreme Flight planes, but this Skywing system, as far as I can see, is the equal by any metric. The only way I can tell them apart is the Skywing seems to sound a little angrier when you punch out of a harrier of hover and the TMotor runs like a stick of butter, with a beautiful turbine like whine to it. The TMotor is now my new standard, but the Skywing system is right there in performance. A little early to comment on reliability and durability, but beautifully made things are usually stone cold reliable.</div><div><br /></div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiFqhWBVoME1wdKVQwdzv2eJ93yHEF9T7ABXrHCyMhdD9Q6XfQGaoMoqu7CavlHNPyBM5Se39Po6l1It2I9BcJNxmv3vpPvcB9VqBkQli9zyateoi7XxIVXoU50Pf6KhyphenhyphenKogOkYmEVHRPBKn1QWV0XwQn8XV-qwatvUCsQTblAuPpVj3hd1CJ39RdbiS6-p/s4032/20231021_152543.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="4032" data-original-width="2268" height="400" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiFqhWBVoME1wdKVQwdzv2eJ93yHEF9T7ABXrHCyMhdD9Q6XfQGaoMoqu7CavlHNPyBM5Se39Po6l1It2I9BcJNxmv3vpPvcB9VqBkQli9zyateoi7XxIVXoU50Pf6KhyphenhyphenKogOkYmEVHRPBKn1QWV0XwQn8XV-qwatvUCsQTblAuPpVj3hd1CJ39RdbiS6-p/w225-h400/20231021_152543.jpg" width="225" /></a></div><div><br /></div>The ESC comes preprogrammed, so all you do is set your throttle range and fly it. It's already set up to deliver 7.4 volts to the servos. I like how tidy the installation is.</div><div><br /></div><div>Generally, I would recommend the TMotor, partially because most 48" pilots already have 4s packs, but batteries are cheap right now and these small packs charge so fast you only need a couple. At the time, the 6s was the only one available in the PNP, and I wanted the plane so bad the price of the batteries didn't dissuade me. Neither power system seems to have an advantage over the other except they sound different.</div><div><br /><div><b>Airframe</b></div><div>Moving on to the airframe, one really nice feature is the male connector from the ESC is mounted inside the fuselage on the battery tray (see<span style="background-color: white; font-size: 14px;"> </span><span style="background-color: white; font-size: 14px;">Jinwei</span><span style="background-color: white; font-size: 14px;"> 's photos)</span>. There's no more fishing around for the ESC plug. This is an extremely nice feature, though I still use deans and have to do it the old-fashioned way. Actually, changing out the deans' plug was the hardest part of the whole build, but most of you won't have to do that.<div><br /></div><div>Moving back into the radio compartment, Skywing's exclusive hands free aileron lead connectors are pre-mounted in both the wings and the fuselage. You just slide the wing on, flip the retention latch and forget about it. On my 48" Slick I was a bit skeptical they could have such a tight tolerance that it might take a little fiddling, but the wing slipped on first time with no hassle and works beautifully. Since I generally leave the wings on my 48s, I was not expecting to really appreciate this feature until I had to used it a few times, and then I found it very useful and convenient. My arthritis also appreciates that I won't have to twist wing bolts anymore.</div><div><br /></div><div>Another convenient feature is the wing quick latches. Slide the wing on, push the latch down and forget about it. There are little blocks of wood on the bottom of the canopy that will not allow the latch to open, or to even put the canopy on if the latches are not engaged. It's a very, very simple and elegant solution.</div><div><br /></div><div>Moving to the wings, they are totally <b><i>finished, </i></b>except maybe some decals if you like. They are pre-hinged, glued and <b style="font-style: italic;">sealed, </b>and as crazy as this sounds, <i>adjusted</i>. I've been sealing my control surfaces all along and it's kind of a pain, so I was glad to be relieved of that job and their work is better than I could do anyway. The servos are in, the pushrods are already bolted to the control horns on one end and the arm on the other. All you have to do is center the control surface with a little sub trim, and the same on the tail. </div><div><br /></div><div>The hardest and most terrifying job we used to have was getting the tail on straight. Now you simply slide the stab as far forward as it can go, and the whole thing self aligns. I measured mine anyway, just to satisfy my OCD. From there you hinge the rudder, and with the hinges already glued into the rudder, half that job is done. The tailwheel bracket is already mounted, and right about now I am feeling guilty that it was too easy. </div><div><br /></div><div>Finally, the plane comes with quick install SFGs that take about 30 seconds to slide on and a really nice wing bag with SFG pockets. Skywing really went all out on these 48s.</div><div><br /></div><div>There's a hell of a lot to this plane, but as far as assembly, there ain't much. Part of me is going to miss building arfs, while the rest me appreciates how easy it will be to replace one of these when it hits it's expiration date.</div><div><br /></div><div> There's a ton of extra value in these SW 48s. We're dealing with an extremely serious company here. I've watched the Skywing planes improve and improve, and these receiver ready models compare quite nicely with the Extreme Flights planes. As each company improves their planes, the other usually follows suit, so we're seeing the benefits of competition.</div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgQB2UfNWELqi9uFJECg5aPWkAWJVyOs6WvC7nBjcO6UQWsk5SrGQzgUg_3WGb3NMzuoTQmLHCs6QmDkb5t4oh-V2LcbEFML7Zk_kXqcQSL4mbp0TEPdfvi-52zM8aQcrUzuEHHqpPf-kphSJ0BFnpEhBHmcSp0eI34TP3nH2q_hS8RJG3xEL23fHqqQpzj/s4032/20231029_144201.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="2268" data-original-width="4032" height="360" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgQB2UfNWELqi9uFJECg5aPWkAWJVyOs6WvC7nBjcO6UQWsk5SrGQzgUg_3WGb3NMzuoTQmLHCs6QmDkb5t4oh-V2LcbEFML7Zk_kXqcQSL4mbp0TEPdfvi-52zM8aQcrUzuEHHqpPf-kphSJ0BFnpEhBHmcSp0eI34TP3nH2q_hS8RJG3xEL23fHqqQpzj/w640-h360/20231029_144201.jpg" width="640" /></a></div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEggBorMQijK4VDcBmKV-gj_4MVHiLKOTTilBy-MjV9R2kdjVpaCkUAQUughQ-sEoJtTXBIXbv1PojhHvQnOO84gZT_azFMiY4kHXHZlzxjnma8F2gmKFVjE0xOIcLYnAsbD92d_sLftWtHY_bjym0h6ZA8HmSnZ7CY4FwieaAg8iUuQObU3tKvElJsGg7qu/s4032/20231029_144225.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="2268" data-original-width="4032" height="113" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEggBorMQijK4VDcBmKV-gj_4MVHiLKOTTilBy-MjV9R2kdjVpaCkUAQUughQ-sEoJtTXBIXbv1PojhHvQnOO84gZT_azFMiY4kHXHZlzxjnma8F2gmKFVjE0xOIcLYnAsbD92d_sLftWtHY_bjym0h6ZA8HmSnZ7CY4FwieaAg8iUuQObU3tKvElJsGg7qu/w200-h113/20231029_144225.jpg" width="200" /></a><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEid3IXLAkscx2-9y7wEd1WoEH7-3sV1XPS7QxkHCy6Y2wWBskWabBhE3DEoj-RE405VSs0eHu8PLU6Xpk6KHQ7allpGdH3g7FbZ85zU_3-VXgN_lK7e2rYhZcdLeqH_ohS_Yky6y2-oveVWqh81Rp6eGWd4urAnbv-lMNwNwgZkWFfLks5q7DhdcG9vbxQf/s4032/20231029_144206.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="2268" data-original-width="4032" height="113" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEid3IXLAkscx2-9y7wEd1WoEH7-3sV1XPS7QxkHCy6Y2wWBskWabBhE3DEoj-RE405VSs0eHu8PLU6Xpk6KHQ7allpGdH3g7FbZ85zU_3-VXgN_lK7e2rYhZcdLeqH_ohS_Yky6y2-oveVWqh81Rp6eGWd4urAnbv-lMNwNwgZkWFfLks5q7DhdcG9vbxQf/w200-h113/20231029_144206.jpg" width="200" /></a></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEib7ZO-o9najlLzbX3NtmboLTyfit5LDhGRE0VXME5zop084LEKEdCpiscFX_uIvuXYr1T2mUf9oLt-Tr08lWBzBBj5IcQCtd2JH6gmZR_4zpk2j2sAqFekxaoOfqpniIt12CM9BFKq45NZrdK0tfBRfhwM_y19oIRrELHC34pVWKcQ73PaNZKVYvpgE3Bs/s4032/20231029_144239.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="2268" data-original-width="4032" height="225" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEib7ZO-o9najlLzbX3NtmboLTyfit5LDhGRE0VXME5zop084LEKEdCpiscFX_uIvuXYr1T2mUf9oLt-Tr08lWBzBBj5IcQCtd2JH6gmZR_4zpk2j2sAqFekxaoOfqpniIt12CM9BFKq45NZrdK0tfBRfhwM_y19oIRrELHC34pVWKcQ73PaNZKVYvpgE3Bs/w400-h225/20231029_144239.jpg" width="400" /></a></div><br /><div>A few other thoughts here. Everything on the plane that was unnecessary weight got the axe. The ESC weighs next to nothing, the servo screws are no longer than they have to be and are about half the length of what we have been using. The servo arm bolts are about half the size of what we were using before. It gets even crazier when you get to the spinner and see how tiny the cone retention bolts are. The entire plane is built so lightly that Skywing is looking to trim grams because there are no more ounce savings to be had. A gram here or there is nothing, but if you have enough small weight savings it adds up and this package is pretty light.</div><div><br /></div><div>A lot of this report could have just as easily been copy/paste from my Slick article because they go together virtually identically. I have not flown the NG yet (flight report next clear day), but I would say it's going to make a great 3D and precision plane, but also a killer sport plane for new guys stepping up from a T28 or any other small, dedicated sport plane.</div><div><br /></div><div><b>Set Up</b></div><div>There's really not much to it. The pushrods are already<i> preadjusted</i>. Just slap the servo arms onto the servos and center with sub trim. Here's what the elevator linkage looks like.<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><br /><table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"><tbody><tr><td style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjeIGMq6LTC2sRcfe9Oc7bMbrTA6Lb-yz-zkfm9QI5dJ8ivgLipCwjuj_1cfuJs1gcGPCMQt9GzLiLTYdG3wgz34sKAGLEy4y90h3NVOwF5ME17gnZzhn-yMnU2YCLDC7NNx61HAl-vzQcXz8RqN3UX7D5Iyhs3Oq12MskD3jHMzPsMW-zsuC3GKA_Itkjp/s4032/Glamor%20(2)_2.jpg" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"><img border="0" data-original-height="2268" data-original-width="4032" height="225" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjeIGMq6LTC2sRcfe9Oc7bMbrTA6Lb-yz-zkfm9QI5dJ8ivgLipCwjuj_1cfuJs1gcGPCMQt9GzLiLTYdG3wgz34sKAGLEy4y90h3NVOwF5ME17gnZzhn-yMnU2YCLDC7NNx61HAl-vzQcXz8RqN3UX7D5Iyhs3Oq12MskD3jHMzPsMW-zsuC3GKA_Itkjp/w400-h225/Glamor%20(2)_2.jpg" width="400" /></a></td></tr><tr><td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"></td></tr></tbody></table>It was the same sort of thing with the rudder. Slap the arm on, sub trim and you're done. One thing worth noting is after a few flights you may want to check the cinch bolt on the arm. My Slick got a little sloppy after a few flights, and I fixed that by cranking the cinch bolt down until the arm was locked on solid.<br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div></div><div><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgVro0YLLXvVIuA4DIlj0GO0trAv9l2LDFwJLbqcEJdEsqRYPIKzxz01plvjAU52H9stmvR8PVh-uDdOhUjq_0oEnvlJLxUX22vTIiKkxXkjmlipVt5Csk71ZWhEtDCX3XgF231BuLNun-_dFHUGl4f8ORuzIW6zQrtAuHsMtq6PKohJYK7gaLWb1MHD7RO/s4032/Glamor%20(1).jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="2256" data-original-width="4032" height="224" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgVro0YLLXvVIuA4DIlj0GO0trAv9l2LDFwJLbqcEJdEsqRYPIKzxz01plvjAU52H9stmvR8PVh-uDdOhUjq_0oEnvlJLxUX22vTIiKkxXkjmlipVt5Csk71ZWhEtDCX3XgF231BuLNun-_dFHUGl4f8ORuzIW6zQrtAuHsMtq6PKohJYK7gaLWb1MHD7RO/w400-h224/Glamor%20(1).jpg" width="400" /></a></div><br /><div>We did something a little different on the ailerons. On my 48" Slick PNP, the ailerons were a little faster than I liked. I'm trying to get smoother and can deal better with a little less. </div><div><br /></div><div>Here I used the plastic arms that come with the power system/servo package. Instead of 1", they are 7/8", which just so happens to be what I use on my 48" EXPs. With this arm I can crank my end points and get 31 degrees, which is exactly what I like. Since the Slick and NG use the same wings, I expect the same result.</div><div><br /></div><table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"><tbody><tr><td style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj-sZsPHj967M4N4QimSa0BQpjnO0gvFQF4OypB728eWpJ3yI8asWJ0TvgKjAZwg6-6oai1pYYlARCSkQ4dzQYJpifk1e2v6_T5fM5lhQkngvV-I7fKDpnGR9VgoXwbXROUfeMYr-kMCf_K9vsvF9VdAC5Msr_uVSIEdvC-BfEShmBL_4CBhjBHIjknruJV/s4032/Glamor%20(4).jpg" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"><img border="0" data-original-height="2256" data-original-width="4032" height="224" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj-sZsPHj967M4N4QimSa0BQpjnO0gvFQF4OypB728eWpJ3yI8asWJ0TvgKjAZwg6-6oai1pYYlARCSkQ4dzQYJpifk1e2v6_T5fM5lhQkngvV-I7fKDpnGR9VgoXwbXROUfeMYr-kMCf_K9vsvF9VdAC5Msr_uVSIEdvC-BfEShmBL_4CBhjBHIjknruJV/w400-h224/Glamor%20(4).jpg" width="400" /></a></td></tr><tr><td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"></td></tr></tbody></table><div><br /></div><div><b>Flying</b></div><div>Stay tuned. We'll get to that in a few days.</div></div></div></div><div><br /></div><div><b>Update: </b> The weather has resolutely not cooperated, but I was so anxious to fly it we went anyway. The wind was ripping so hard I didn't figure it would make interesting video, and then when it died down for the second flight we just forgot. </div><div><br /></div><div>First impression is it's not as violent as the 48" Slick, but it grooves better. I was cranking off nice slow and point rolls on my first wide open passes. Nothing out of the ordinary except it shares the great harrier behavior of the Slick and it's easy to fly and confidence inspiring. We called it quits after two packs so I can go back over the plane, tighten things up and come back in better conditions.</div><div><br /></div><div>As far as CG, mine came out smack dead neutral, but I like them a little ahead of that. I moved the battery 1/2' forward and for the second flight she was much better, more stable and more precise, while not giving up anything in 3D or XA. Just a small adjustment and the only one I made all day.</div><div><br /></div><div>Two flights in bad conditions is not a fair test, though admittedly even at that the plane was still really, really solid. We'll know more when we get video this week, followed by a full report.</div><div><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh7SYd438_Xxjs7dWe6vkR8H2MMJbu1xmsMMdoALTG_eu0Z1fVwP7mRohj8u9ZLolxASmHbsIe7TPmXhncrueH1xi2Q7-3RtfCVoCRUNTGh6bPmB2Ywa8ThPRiF5mgZHv-iV7_IP90dY9Eewj3NZwCE_gxHCQBTYyJCn9N6q6fCrIPCdj4StfPCluW6rI0p/s2048/Team%20America__Doc%20Austin%20002.bmp" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1536" data-original-width="2048" height="480" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh7SYd438_Xxjs7dWe6vkR8H2MMJbu1xmsMMdoALTG_eu0Z1fVwP7mRohj8u9ZLolxASmHbsIe7TPmXhncrueH1xi2Q7-3RtfCVoCRUNTGh6bPmB2Ywa8ThPRiF5mgZHv-iV7_IP90dY9Eewj3NZwCE_gxHCQBTYyJCn9N6q6fCrIPCdj4StfPCluW6rI0p/w640-h480/Team%20America__Doc%20Austin%20002.bmp" width="640" /></a></div><br /><div><br /></div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div>Doc Austinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09358924159613442642noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2245334704739395263.post-27528316272218706732023-05-05T18:09:00.014-04:002023-05-05T21:35:31.462-04:00Skywing 48 Slick__Dialed In<div><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgA35GtZ05JpX28wfoPSgB7pxH-PWq6yTj41wCt8eE4cNV1lf6Wv3h3lVEtH6cJCcTzHMRrBe7592-PIkhQDytUbxn4gjhlIOrRXWsWnfN-CtmIF2oSW0j4d4GJ-SUUDOpT3jalAasid3NGaUExoYWFCK43ZTw9yKNME50yHnd9ulc6fmBB9lQQbHVRvw/s3000/Skywing%20TP%20Arrwork__008.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1688" data-original-width="3000" height="360" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgA35GtZ05JpX28wfoPSgB7pxH-PWq6yTj41wCt8eE4cNV1lf6Wv3h3lVEtH6cJCcTzHMRrBe7592-PIkhQDytUbxn4gjhlIOrRXWsWnfN-CtmIF2oSW0j4d4GJ-SUUDOpT3jalAasid3NGaUExoYWFCK43ZTw9yKNME50yHnd9ulc6fmBB9lQQbHVRvw/w640-h360/Skywing%20TP%20Arrwork__008.jpg" width="640" /></a></div><br /><div><br /></div>I've been flying the 48" Slick for about 2 weeks, though weather and other delays have worked against us. Today we had a decent day and I wanted to try out a set up change. Initially the ailerons came with a 1' arm, and it was a little too fast for me. It was not crazy or anything, but I've recently been setting my planes up to be a little less violent and more precise, so I turned my end points back to 90% and it was perfect. However, when you cut your end point, you lose resolution, so I had to find another way.<div><div><br /></div><div>Now remember, this is a personal preference, and most people will be fine with it the way it comes out of the box. I'm just striving to get smoother. I usually use a 7/8' arm on my ailerons and crank my end points to 125%, so clearly I needed a 7/8' arm. I picked up one of the Skywing power system and servo kits to get some spares and was delighted that it not only came with the 1' metal arm, but a 7/8' plastic arm as well. Just what I needed!</div><div><br /></div><div>The plastic arm cut my throw to where I could turn my end points up to 125% and hit the same deflection. It's still 31 degrees, but now I have my resolution back.</div><div><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiG7hlCFXybYqcs27FmzQh10B2ktzSlHgAwg0TBk0DBFQQ4m4FE_sCUBd-HQZK1Tq21xgdqgMl6vhpqSNZEbB2SwSpFtGpgtF3K4Ps7Mnh1OJu2JfVJRvntVUXRMmo2HLvyCQnKC6UqYJINgBDGN0QozHSYCTVJjFAvP9Qp0ukrMbJKUNXVX41ncQwN6A/s4032/20230505_174340.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="2268" data-original-width="4032" height="225" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiG7hlCFXybYqcs27FmzQh10B2ktzSlHgAwg0TBk0DBFQQ4m4FE_sCUBd-HQZK1Tq21xgdqgMl6vhpqSNZEbB2SwSpFtGpgtF3K4Ps7Mnh1OJu2JfVJRvntVUXRMmo2HLvyCQnKC6UqYJINgBDGN0QozHSYCTVJjFAvP9Qp0ukrMbJKUNXVX41ncQwN6A/w400-h225/20230505_174340.jpg" width="400" /></a></div><div><br /></div><div>Now, remember, this was not a big change. I only knocked off 10% of what the plane came with, but that's what I needed to suit my style. Maybe it was a placebo kind of thing, or maybe I've just become more sensitive to small set up changes, but I could feel the difference right away. The roll axis control became much smoother and more precise, which is exactly what I was after. We had a great day with zero issues, outside, that is, of a few close calls.</div><div><br /></div><div>You can see one or two of my close moments in the video. I was pushing the plane extremely hard, which shows you how quickly I got comfortable with her. I've only got about 15 flights on her, so there's plenty of performance yet to find.</div><div><br /></div><div>Right now, my set up is pretty close to identical to what I use on my 48" EXPs, so if you're an EXP pilot, nothing on this plane, set up wise, is going to cause you any issues. It also kind of flies like an EXP, so you'll be right at home. </div><div><br /></div><div><b>More Flying</b></div><div>The big surprise was the harrier performance. She goes into post stall effortlessly just by picking the nose up, either smoothly or with a more violent pull, but the result is sort of the same. With a smooth pull she just mushes in and you've got full control. If you snatch it into a wall or parachute, the plane just acts like it hit something and completely stops. There's so much pitch authority you need to creep up on the violent stuff at altitude until you get used to it, but in this respect, it acts a lot like a 48" MXS. If you are going to rotate it super hard at low altitude, you'de better lead with a little throttle because a hard rotation spills all the lift right now. It's not scary once you have done it a few times, just leave yourself a little margin until you know what to expect. </div><div><br /></div><div>So, the ease at which the plane flies into a controllable drop or harrier is probably as strong as anything I've flown. Once I find a plane can rotate hard and act benignly, I know I can trust it, and that was one of the first things I tried on the maiden. </div><div><br /></div><div>With the new set up the plane does cracking precision. Point and slow rolls are much better, and big Cuban 8s are nice and round. It does help that the 6s power system gives you so much utter speed, because speed is stability. The plane simply tracks and the speed pushes it through rough air or wind gusts. So, it's stable at speed and it's stable in post stall, and those are the two things we have to demand from out planes. </div><div><br /></div><div>I do keep getting tripped up on my snaps though. Outside is fine and I have that part figured out. On inside snaps I am getting better, but my timing isn't perfect just yet. We're only two flights in on the new set up, so it's going to get better as the pilot learns how the plane likes to be flown.</div><div><br /></div><div>In general, it's a little killer. She has got badass power and runs about as smoothly as a TMotor (which is my new standard). The assembly and set up is so easy you won't believe it until you have built your own. I build with a healthy degree of OCD and it still only took me 30 minutes.</div><div><br /></div><div>All that is left now is to fly the snot out of it and wait for the new Skywing receiver ready 48" NG, which should not be too much longer.</div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div>
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You can read about it and see the video here: <a href="http://docaustinextreme.blogspot.com/2023/04/skywing-48-slickflight-test.html" target="_blank">Skywing 48" Slick__Flight Test</a> I wanted to get more video, but the weather went bad, and a few other things went out of control, and this is why we're doing a follow up with this flight review.</p><p>My initial impressions of the Skywing Slick were extremely positive. The whole presentation from packaging to finished product is simply superb. The plane is extremely well turned out. </p><p>Flying was much of the same. I liked the plane right away and was confident very quickly. It didn't take long for the plane to earn my trust. With each flight the plane just got better and better. I really like it.</p><p>After two days of flying, I had not been able to get out again until now. I used that time to go over my setup and programming, make an adjustment or two, and generally check the whole plane over. This was such a clean build I didn't even wipe it off until today!</p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhQneK46wDK05s0hChEepDb3u4J6WW9MKrCHXbzabdkPaFk9sqYEUwD5ugCP--teHUZu7hPLaRTQqA8-t__F5EB3NmD-_Kw9A0mjlNRK7dwRrhZHRrKQVPGvmY2EMcJPCs3b4NJKQLm3X3pXzlRAmJSTgVqcWqTAUYSHPAl6fix12g9Sk6jkke3V9BN5A/s4032/Skywing%20Slick%20Glamor%20029.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="2268" data-original-width="4032" height="225" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhQneK46wDK05s0hChEepDb3u4J6WW9MKrCHXbzabdkPaFk9sqYEUwD5ugCP--teHUZu7hPLaRTQqA8-t__F5EB3NmD-_Kw9A0mjlNRK7dwRrhZHRrKQVPGvmY2EMcJPCs3b4NJKQLm3X3pXzlRAmJSTgVqcWqTAUYSHPAl6fix12g9Sk6jkke3V9BN5A/w400-h225/Skywing%20Slick%20Glamor%20029.jpg" width="400" /></a></div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjpabP8L40EXDOpXusmuoJfUkYCEBTx_woNUm1w4HHUSZZFO-jq_fICGi_6M0UGf7HPeNIWLG5MoqcEDcuTQpTG_YZDTSsIWvteiItYFR1Hin-DV7LgS5fe2tcSpO40yvPhZ7Rz4xnSFd-vCZx8k7S_rwxNjJjH41ghgHlZP2JWZyd37gRZX66ou8Ikgw/s4032/Skywing%20Slick%20Glamor%20018.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="2268" data-original-width="4032" height="113" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjpabP8L40EXDOpXusmuoJfUkYCEBTx_woNUm1w4HHUSZZFO-jq_fICGi_6M0UGf7HPeNIWLG5MoqcEDcuTQpTG_YZDTSsIWvteiItYFR1Hin-DV7LgS5fe2tcSpO40yvPhZ7Rz4xnSFd-vCZx8k7S_rwxNjJjH41ghgHlZP2JWZyd37gRZX66ou8Ikgw/w200-h113/Skywing%20Slick%20Glamor%20018.jpg" width="200" /></a><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhmbuQRiV3JbzjZtwyKT8KQJpIXfaA86KCirTFmZ57YcCCR3n-ih2oq-P6wSVotLCpUUZxj8FzsEnw5UwMsI-kLQ3ikrZaemexsVO0EumY3v-rBWizoqiwwKH3IHzFSTNJo55WBs0AoyaXxWe2jo4CnJAeJCofelLGwovg2T5yhkr7jj-Qv8w-jsDzWMw/s4032/Skywing%20Slick%20Glamor%20022.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="2268" data-original-width="4032" height="113" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhmbuQRiV3JbzjZtwyKT8KQJpIXfaA86KCirTFmZ57YcCCR3n-ih2oq-P6wSVotLCpUUZxj8FzsEnw5UwMsI-kLQ3ikrZaemexsVO0EumY3v-rBWizoqiwwKH3IHzFSTNJo55WBs0AoyaXxWe2jo4CnJAeJCofelLGwovg2T5yhkr7jj-Qv8w-jsDzWMw/w200-h113/Skywing%20Slick%20Glamor%20022.jpg" width="200" /></a></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj_sks-CW3qRhUNki7wrHVe94D5IhcEF2hCuY8H-2uOIGIYfbPL13i0m8yCI7nFPC8g7EluWQpWiYYll65KCYQ3umwJYK-6S-w8NtPEvASh6jeWnx-8d3kg0QbKgf4KRwEIscLI3QGpjnjAfJP7YUFmb2ICAoSh_x3z0NxojppuAQqfWaKQ1h3c4fdMFw/s4032/Skywing%20Slick%20Glamor%20026.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="2268" data-original-width="4032" height="225" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj_sks-CW3qRhUNki7wrHVe94D5IhcEF2hCuY8H-2uOIGIYfbPL13i0m8yCI7nFPC8g7EluWQpWiYYll65KCYQ3umwJYK-6S-w8NtPEvASh6jeWnx-8d3kg0QbKgf4KRwEIscLI3QGpjnjAfJP7YUFmb2ICAoSh_x3z0NxojppuAQqfWaKQ1h3c4fdMFw/w400-h225/Skywing%20Slick%20Glamor%20026.jpg" width="400" /></a></div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: justify;"><span style="text-align: left;">I was expecting to have to make an adjustment or two. This is a new brand of plane and power system for me. The servos are different, the hardware is different. Without a manual to work from, I was starting at ground zero. If nothing else, I was going to want to tailor the set up to my liking, but the way it came out of the box was pretty close to what I would have done anyway. I dialed the ailerons back 10% because the roll rate was so fast it was hard to be smooth, but that made a big difference for me.</span></div><p>You might think you can't get a good read on a plane flying it in a lot of wind, but those were the cards we were dealt. I did come away from the first two days impressed with how well the plane handled those winds. The plane has really sweet harrier manners and is exceptionally light on it's wings. It tracks very solidly as well.</p><p>Overall, it's not that much different from an Extreme Flight plane in that it is solid, reassuring and has no bad tendencies. This is an extremely nice little piece of work, and I hope Skywing brings us a few more. </p><b>Batteries</b><br />For this plane I needed some new batteries. I went with <a href="https://www.thunderpowerrc.com/collections/1800-mah/products/tp1800-6sr70" target="_blank">Thunder Power 6s 1800 70C Rampage packs</a>. You can see where the pack ended up, and I've got plenty of room to move it either way. I didn't know where the CG was so I balanced it on the tube, and she's nice and neutral like that.<div><br /></div><div><div>Please excuse the mess. I still have to tidy up the wiring.<div><p></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgQvWGuTa30q1wTx_N_cAPRl49RkKuXlcuVuS2V-ufIpDL9sqV3C0eb5uX_c5dD7SX5gB6of0m_fgvoNZscJLzQ3Vp2ghdo4KTp2VUeL5uV82ZnaX156gwenwgLIaNEe7Jaz_IDTMtfWYHrM0Ky5QHUv7lNrety4f5UqeDOqO2X_Ga6AY5sFdjjq1sjrQ/s4032/20230422_001808.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="2256" data-original-width="4032" height="224" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgQvWGuTa30q1wTx_N_cAPRl49RkKuXlcuVuS2V-ufIpDL9sqV3C0eb5uX_c5dD7SX5gB6of0m_fgvoNZscJLzQ3Vp2ghdo4KTp2VUeL5uV82ZnaX156gwenwgLIaNEe7Jaz_IDTMtfWYHrM0Ky5QHUv7lNrety4f5UqeDOqO2X_Ga6AY5sFdjjq1sjrQ/w400-h224/20230422_001808.jpg" width="400" /></a></div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><b>More Testing, Day Three</b></div><div>Now that I have checked everything for two weeks and the weather is decent, I was out of excuses. We had a relatively nice day, and I was anxious to try the plane with my revised aileron throw. I did a short test hop while I was waiting on my camera guy, and I could feel the improvement right away. She was much more settled on the roll axis and much easier to fly more smoothly.</div></div></div><div><br /></div><div>This improvement was the magic trick for precision, point and slow rolls. Basically, the plane was much better all-around and now I can fly it with the same confidence I have in my other planes.</div><div><br /></div>
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<br /><div><br /></div><div>Now I had something I could work with better, so it's a matter of learning the plane and it's characteristics and start creeping up on the limit. For the most part it's very much like an Extreme Flight plane except for two small exceptions. First the plane flies a little lighter than what I am used to, and that is certainly not a complaint. I can get away with more when I'm flying slowly. </div><div><br /></div><div>The other exception is this is such a lively plane that the snap timing is different. This is not a complaint either, because it's the pilot's job to adapt, and I'm getting closer. Sometimes I'll hit it perfect and the thing will wind itself up. Other times, when I apparently hit it wrong, the plane will sort of wallow and never really snap. This is not really a concern because I'll get it. I just need a little more time with the plane, and maybe some calmer weather.</div><div><br /></div><div>For everything else, I just throw caution to the wind and hammer it. Initially I was worried it would not be as easy to set up and extract performance as what I am used to, but outside of running 10% less aileron (it still rolls like a drill bit) the entire set up is the way it came out of the box. Just screw the plane together and fly it.</div><div><br /></div><div>It's also important to point out a few things about how the power system flies. First, I like to run an idle, and you can't believe how slowly this thing will run. It doesn't spit or sputter or hesitate from start up. It just goes. You may have noticed my improved hover, and this comes from having a much smoother power delivery. Previously our beloved Torque/Airboss combo was unsurpassed for this, but with all the drone power system technology creeping into our fixed wing power systems, the improvement is a bit shocking.</div><div><br /></div><div>Most people are going to be more concerned with how much brute horsepower this system has and the simple answer (because we forgot to measure it) is it's <b><i>enough, and then some</i>.</b> Previously I liked a little less power to make it easier to handle, but the smooth delivery has no spike in it at all. It gives you exactly what you ask for.</div><div><br /></div><div>I also can't say enough how pleased I am to get away from separate BECs and their complexity. The Castle units are bulletproof, but you have to solder them up and mount them and do a clean job. Running this unit with it's own built in BEC is much less complicated, a cleaner installation and a lot less work.</div><div><br /></div><div>Just guessing because we haven't measured, but I'de say the power system in this plane it right about as powerful and nearly as smooth and linear as a TMotor. Then again, that's a guess, but I'm about as equally pleased with one as much as the other.</div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div><div><b>Final Thoughts, for now</b></div><div><div>Where do you start with a project that was so, so very easy yet exceeds performance expectations? It took longer to unpack it than it did to build it, and the set up, right out of the box is stellar. The servos were mostly invisible because I never thought about them, and the power system is about as smooth as a TMotor. </div><div><br /></div><div>I've never owned a Skywing plane before, so initially I was a little skeptical. This went away as soon as I started dry fitting things together and admiring the plane. There was nothing on this plane that gave me any sort of trouble, and I didn't have to fiddle with a single thing. The quick latch wing and SFG mounts are extremely nice features, as is the wing bag, and extra prop. I think if you add up what it costs to build a 48 with good equipment, it's probably pretty close to what it costs to build one of these, and the difference is you can have a Skywing receiver-ready Slick ready to fly in about a half hour.</div></div><div><br /></div><div>Where is this plane going to fit in the market? The first batch was gone in a day and a half, so that's a good start. This is the perfect plane for just about everyone because it's so easy and effortless to put together. Experienced big plane pilots will want one for a beater, and smaller plane enthusiasts will find it fits the budget. New guys are going to eat this thing up, just because they don't have to do trick stuff like hinging, cowl mounting and getting the stab straight. Most of us couldn't glue two pieces of wood together when we started, so this plane will be monumental for them.</div><div><br /></div><div>Finally, the appeal is strong for everyday sport 3Ders. It's reasonably priced, uses reasonably priced batteries and fits in my car assembled, though with the quick latches you can assemble or break one down in 30 seconds.</div><div><br /></div><div>Of course, the plane is available as an ARF as well, so if you biff it or wear it out, you can reuse the equipment in a new one. </div><div><br /></div><div>Finally, some of us were worried about the future of the 48" class, but with planes like these, and hopefully a few more, 48s look set to be as relevant as ever.</div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div><div>
<iframe allow="autoplay; fullscreen; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="360" src="https://player.vimeo.com/video/820371782?h=72ef3bff29" width="640"></iframe><p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://vimeo.com/820371782">Skywing 48 Slick__More Testing II</a> from <a href="https://vimeo.com/user714849">Doc Austin</a> on <a href="https://vimeo.com">Vimeo</a>.</p><div style="text-align: center;"><br /></div></div><table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"><tbody><tr><td style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjXVHTn1Q3pkyMooATGM1ZEAqLBFTnWqX-eXSs5m1bSWvGXY3VD_0Sc2yMeXYfq7LaZikOOeTO5HHR6pW-KefOzV3PwU9Zwufw_BnsBA5N9cWSOFSKwTW7lX-nT1iFfif0AoNFMLS4AFF4XiBmVbcwEyGhvkYGto1zmITL5mERk7xgIwUbCuso2tWlCGg/s3000/Skywing%20TP%20Arrwork__007.jpg" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1688" data-original-width="3000" height="360" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjXVHTn1Q3pkyMooATGM1ZEAqLBFTnWqX-eXSs5m1bSWvGXY3VD_0Sc2yMeXYfq7LaZikOOeTO5HHR6pW-KefOzV3PwU9Zwufw_BnsBA5N9cWSOFSKwTW7lX-nT1iFfif0AoNFMLS4AFF4XiBmVbcwEyGhvkYGto1zmITL5mERk7xgIwUbCuso2tWlCGg/w640-h360/Skywing%20TP%20Arrwork__007.jpg" width="640" /></a></td></tr><tr><td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"></td></tr></tbody></table><br /><div><br /></div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div>Doc Austinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09358924159613442642noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2245334704739395263.post-49913133108693131212023-04-05T17:01:00.004-04:002023-04-10T23:38:29.737-04:00Skywing 48" Slick__Flight Test<p style="text-align: center;"><br /></p>
<p></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><b><span style="color: red;">Note: This report is in progress. I will be adding text, photos and video as we</span></b><span style="color: red;"> go.</span></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEipulEv75dtUKMdKuPRQmZ55K9O7qH8gyfSn-md85YXwNe6L8dyL_DyvBucYhNrZo73TVqR8sGHthpANf77VUu2qgnGg_lSiUBHcas1ssyEQUjCirUMbcyGhkwZw22QrEMcFV-kcQ1Q0gRzBF0i9YRvK-7A3gtyPNvE-MiUKV1HDSYVMST0yCrbZkd-Eg/s3000/Skywing%20TP%20Arrwork__006.bmp" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1688" data-original-width="3000" height="360" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEipulEv75dtUKMdKuPRQmZ55K9O7qH8gyfSn-md85YXwNe6L8dyL_DyvBucYhNrZo73TVqR8sGHthpANf77VUu2qgnGg_lSiUBHcas1ssyEQUjCirUMbcyGhkwZw22QrEMcFV-kcQ1Q0gRzBF0i9YRvK-7A3gtyPNvE-MiUKV1HDSYVMST0yCrbZkd-Eg/w640-h360/Skywing%20TP%20Arrwork__006.bmp" width="640" /></a></div><br />This plane represents a bit of a departure from what I am used to flying. New airframe manufacturer, new power system, new servos, and a new assembly procedure were all things I had to adapt to, but once she broke ground, I knew there was nothing to worry about.<div><div><br /></div><div>My only concern was that the whole project was a little too easy, creating an anxiety that I may have missed something. The truth is it <i>was</i> too easy. I took it out of the box and it was ready to go in 30 minutes or so. There was nothing to think out because it was all but done. </div><div><br /></div><div>OK, it was so easy I had this haunting too-good-to-be-true feeling right up until it broke ground and then forgot about it and just enjoyed flying the plane.</div><div><br /></div><div>This plane is as nice as any 48" I've seen, and as we'll get into, it flies as well as any of them.</div><div><div><br /><b>The Shakedown</b><br />I got two shakedown flights in a lot of wind, but the promise is certainly there. I need to dial back my aileron throw for tomorrow because it rolls like a drill bit, and I am comfortable with a little less......just a personal preference. The way the thing came out of the box was close to perfect, so I may decompress a little and look at it tonight. I may just leave it alone and adapt to it.</div><div><br /></div><div>As far as CG, the with the back edge of my <a href="https://www.thunderpowerrc.com/collections/1800-mah/products/tp1800-6sr70">Thunder Power 6s 1800 70C Rampage</a> pack sitting flush with the rear landing gear former she balanced dead center on the wing tube, so we started there and she is just a touch ahead of neutral, which is where I like them, so I've going to leave that alone.</div><div><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg_xOtfdgZSTLLfU4erm8LooC6ravIQxKy-IEw18tuQqdqNtsTGkN8dba068eR8HKxh6BIe_UiguvKlh2UKCjlVs-gVqRYYdGyEwIlGwJm91XQ_yFkqMLL2oe_phVOvMxnvo_a4kUxNRBjWA95nOK9dC7UJyi0gt4RorGk4eDqYRDbUAU-BqE1TxnA1Rw/s4032/20230403_224927.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="2268" data-original-width="4032" height="225" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg_xOtfdgZSTLLfU4erm8LooC6ravIQxKy-IEw18tuQqdqNtsTGkN8dba068eR8HKxh6BIe_UiguvKlh2UKCjlVs-gVqRYYdGyEwIlGwJm91XQ_yFkqMLL2oe_phVOvMxnvo_a4kUxNRBjWA95nOK9dC7UJyi0gt4RorGk4eDqYRDbUAU-BqE1TxnA1Rw/w400-h225/20230403_224927.jpg" width="400" /></a></div><br /><div><br /></div><div><div>This Slick is nothing at all like previous Slicks. I was much more comfortable right away as compared to the original 51, and this plane is more like the 52" Slick EXP with great tumbling and smooth precision. My point and slow rolls are a little sloppy, but two flights are not enough time to dial the plane in and adapt to it. So far, my only complaint is that the plane likes to flatten out of a KE spin, but I hit my last one just right. It was simply a matter of different timing. Otherwise, she snaps and spins just fine. </div><div><br /></div><div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhIySnr7IE0oCpZyDOvcjyZFHBsasvEK-nHZcFQFaLItwHhDlnkTnnrUy8H4P6feFFrQo_RCV-l_8ClEbLEaL52G6WPJlA8NtqIwuC4UolVL8Xl-QZ4Sm3k4-u90k3M5R2wyZ82EEhwvHlQ-C_8Kh5gfV-RywoOAAjnwbi4XrdXv-vIwD3A2m5JKnqmdQ/s4032/Skywing%20Slick%20Glamor%20030.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="2268" data-original-width="4032" height="225" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhIySnr7IE0oCpZyDOvcjyZFHBsasvEK-nHZcFQFaLItwHhDlnkTnnrUy8H4P6feFFrQo_RCV-l_8ClEbLEaL52G6WPJlA8NtqIwuC4UolVL8Xl-QZ4Sm3k4-u90k3M5R2wyZ82EEhwvHlQ-C_8Kh5gfV-RywoOAAjnwbi4XrdXv-vIwD3A2m5JKnqmdQ/w400-h225/Skywing%20Slick%20Glamor%20030.jpg" width="400" /></a></div></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"> </div>Mostly I just flew it around carefully because we had no video guy on hand. As such, I was really careful with my landings, but I am sure we will bounce test it once we have some video in the can. The plane lands exceptionally smoothly and it really likes to settle into a nice harrier and sink in on all three wheels at once. I was really impressed with how gently I could set it down. 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The only scare I had was got an extra half rotation on a snap but caught it and flew it out with no drama except maybe my heart rate went up a bit. It's all a timing thing, but I may either adapt or try a little less aileron throw. I went through this on the Velox, but I tailored the set up to be less aggressive, which makes the plane smoother, but doesn't kneecap performance. The way she comes out of the box is going to be right for most people, but I'm going to tweak this plane to get everything I can out of it. </div><div><br /></div><div>One really nice surprise is my pitiful hovering actually looked pretty good. I tried two or three times suspecting I just got lucky, but she hovers really stable and locked in. This will be an excellent tool for getting my hover better.</div><div><br /></div><div>Most people are going to wonder about how light the plane flies, or how "floaty" it is. Here the Slick is as floaty as my other 48s, and maybe a little more. Harrier manners are really solid and reassuring. She does beautiful elevator drops. </div><div><br /></div><div>Pitch authority at 45 degrees is very impressive and the Slick does a righteous wall maneuver and pops flat in a parachute. </div><div><br /></div><div>I was comfortable so quickly I just flew it and didn't really dig to discover the differences. It's so similar to what I am used to that adapting was almost automatic.</div><div><br /></div><div>Right now it's just day one, but I'm already flipping through the pages on the Skywing page looking for my next project.</div><div><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi_tS13Djd08HOyX2-x_cj7JttMWCqmHHBKuYNgQ_tg-Y4DczhI_9WlH7zf_Jgf4qHeFrOP6PORDPsA3vaiktYgwuIVPPIrhnp39sd5B7mWTzcWw9NgdarqYlrqcYxatlpwU6-94i0hooSOug1vZND76KBTpO7qk61_zr1Xa0ZKXkxQgRyah-7vhMLUWg/s3000/Skywing%20TP%20Arrwork__007.bmp" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1688" data-original-width="3000" height="225" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi_tS13Djd08HOyX2-x_cj7JttMWCqmHHBKuYNgQ_tg-Y4DczhI_9WlH7zf_Jgf4qHeFrOP6PORDPsA3vaiktYgwuIVPPIrhnp39sd5B7mWTzcWw9NgdarqYlrqcYxatlpwU6-94i0hooSOug1vZND76KBTpO7qk61_zr1Xa0ZKXkxQgRyah-7vhMLUWg/w400-h225/Skywing%20TP%20Arrwork__007.bmp" width="400" /></a></div><div><br /></div><div><b>Power System Performance</b></div><div>Since I have never flown a 48" on 6s, I went from the supplied wood 13/7 prop to an APC 13/6.5 to be sure I did not hit the batteries too hard. This turned out to be a good call because I came down with just the right voltage. I'll probably keep this prop on it as I will fly it using less power and do more 3D as the winds calm and I learn the plane better. </div><div><br /></div><div>There was no spitting or shuddering on start up and power delivery was explosive, but easy to modulate. It ran smooth all day and didn't give me any worries. After a punch out or two I simply forgot about it until whenever I would hammer it and the thing would simply blast off. I run an idle mix and one thing I noticed is when you cut the power there was no winding down. It simply went to idle<i> instantly. </i>Power systems have come a long way since the original Torques, and this kind of instant response is probably a result of all the drone technology that's creeping into our systems. The response is smooth and predictably and very easy to control and get exactly what you want from it.</div><div><br /></div><div>Today was about survival, and we accomplished that, got the CG dead on, and had a nice smooth day, which is what you want first time out. Power was about level with the TMotor, so this prop sacrifices nothing while cutting my amp draw and increasing run time. In short, it's a beast, and while most people will be happy with that, I may experiment with a Zoar 13/6 and drop a little more power in exchange for hitting the batteries a little less hard.</div><div><br /></div><div>That's it for today, but we'll add video and some more commentary hopefully tomorrow.</div><div><br /></div><div style="text-align: left;"><b>Day Two</b></div><div style="text-align: left;">The weather forecast was marginal, but it's even worse for the next 10 days, so we had to go now. I dialed my ailerons back about 10% and now she's about perfect. The plane not only remains stable, but got even better with throw I was more comfortable with. Now the timing on snaps and spins are much more like what I am used to, so I adapted the plane to me. </div><div style="text-align: left;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: left;">Here's what we have so far, and since we want to get the info out as fast as possible, we'll settle for this and shoot some better video and more detailed flight report when the weather is less wicked.</div><div style="text-align: center;"><b><span style="font-size: x-large;"><br /></span></b></div><div style="text-align: center;"><b><span style="font-size: x-large;">
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text-align: center;"><br /></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>Doc Austinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09358924159613442642noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2245334704739395263.post-75879870856170480672023-03-30T20:57:00.019-04:002023-05-11T00:08:45.585-04:00Skywing 48" Slick__Receiver Ready Goodness<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><b><span style="color: red;">Note: This report is in progress. I'll be adding photos and artwork as we tidy things up a bit.</span></b></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiU_VM9VdeDByCaX_oBcV1D_TeXWQWfo6ACO79c_dtGjn22XDMCMTUepEP2gkx8pCNZfWgTSimHJ3lCM5f2kh4bqjMB_ioSPj3-MX0Aa9l19UwOeA4dr74lTv1CMksD2EVqebvMiZxHqY5ZLreo5P8r1yQ3yanvZ1HT0gWy4sN1mDOUVhJPYCaqh9p2zQ/s3000/Skying%20Templates_0003.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1688" data-original-width="3000" height="360" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiU_VM9VdeDByCaX_oBcV1D_TeXWQWfo6ACO79c_dtGjn22XDMCMTUepEP2gkx8pCNZfWgTSimHJ3lCM5f2kh4bqjMB_ioSPj3-MX0Aa9l19UwOeA4dr74lTv1CMksD2EVqebvMiZxHqY5ZLreo5P8r1yQ3yanvZ1HT0gWy4sN1mDOUVhJPYCaqh9p2zQ/w640-h360/Skying%20Templates_0003.jpg" width="640" /></a></div><br /> The news just keeps getting better for fans of the 48" class. In addition to the three Extreme Flight 48" V2s, now we have the new receiver ready 48" Skywing Slick 360. This is a groundbreaking plane on many levels, starting with it's available 6s power system, and it's quick connect wing and aileron servo leads. Most startling is the plane is receiver ready, with power system and servos installed. A few guys are reporting going from box to air in less than 30 minutes, which is a first in super high performance planes in this size.<div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: justify;"><span style="text-align: left;">There are a lot of important things to cover here, but for me the best part is how easy this makes things for the new guys. The only stressful part of the entire thing is getting the stab straight, but that's nearly a no brainer because the self-aligning feature takes care of that You slide the stab all the way forward and glue it. Hinge the rudder and all that's left is bolting on the landing gear and hinging the rudder. By the time you get to 3D, you really should be able to hinge a rudder, and even at that the hinges are already glued into the rudder itself, so half of that work is already done.</span></div></div><p>Pushrods are finished and bolted to the control horns, and the servo arms bolted to the other end. They are preadjusted to center the control when the arm is centered, so all that is left is bolting the servo arm to the servo and centering the arms with sub trim. The wings are already finished. There was so little to do it was almost a little disappointing the assembly took so little effort.</p><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: red; font-size: x-small;">Click to enlarge any photo</span></div><p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg-qPSrZ-dv3nBpCMrEfwm1kcKwoYY0rTwKC1rzK3dCFdkzhX4t7TwYit3z8nOVjbwxHovLxCUNJEaBjgj_rh6xkEJsga7tzTRPftlDqFfSbpYiiGhmQ7VsNJbZR-4WB9tTjprWG9RWt1KdwXkCCzSL7F7ZAauQkFDOC_mLn4ylRRAHFMBvfNLZGoYthA/s4032/20230330_195830.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="2268" data-original-width="4032" height="225" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg-qPSrZ-dv3nBpCMrEfwm1kcKwoYY0rTwKC1rzK3dCFdkzhX4t7TwYit3z8nOVjbwxHovLxCUNJEaBjgj_rh6xkEJsga7tzTRPftlDqFfSbpYiiGhmQ7VsNJbZR-4WB9tTjprWG9RWt1KdwXkCCzSL7F7ZAauQkFDOC_mLn4ylRRAHFMBvfNLZGoYthA/w400-h225/20230330_195830.jpg" width="400" /></a></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEghGt2HYn6Y5vbh-cSB9CooAlFgvg2Gz_LfM-QHOMK7SQJk1qKkBHXchyB0YfIlOdH2eq2oDD-SiqDYVAkhQNlWiDfIKB7qtEjmcpkaF-K5_SqSkY9ySv7beOFDXoCqY3JYLJdl6rHsONb86xHQcXh32Yncr77c9Ggoco31mDOcthb9lFV1ZcGqPejP1w/s4032/20230330_195837.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="2268" data-original-width="4032" height="113" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEghGt2HYn6Y5vbh-cSB9CooAlFgvg2Gz_LfM-QHOMK7SQJk1qKkBHXchyB0YfIlOdH2eq2oDD-SiqDYVAkhQNlWiDfIKB7qtEjmcpkaF-K5_SqSkY9ySv7beOFDXoCqY3JYLJdl6rHsONb86xHQcXh32Yncr77c9Ggoco31mDOcthb9lFV1ZcGqPejP1w/w200-h113/20230330_195837.jpg" width="200" /></a><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgT7S_zHqtt7NjlP_QZlvATkcyhARbzpqtEuQg8EGqaHg1XyXtyu597345VL7v3yClIfKzVL6vlvsNEfmFXV8uTyc4m88wgXUV92XR5HkMC1SPLOSyJEwp1AYDEAujmovcFO_l_LSjRdaUVjRcEc8kOaY_VHKgzQTVmurLqN2icQ4WRp--epoQ6GawrKg/s4032/20230330_195844.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="2268" data-original-width="4032" height="113" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgT7S_zHqtt7NjlP_QZlvATkcyhARbzpqtEuQg8EGqaHg1XyXtyu597345VL7v3yClIfKzVL6vlvsNEfmFXV8uTyc4m88wgXUV92XR5HkMC1SPLOSyJEwp1AYDEAujmovcFO_l_LSjRdaUVjRcEc8kOaY_VHKgzQTVmurLqN2icQ4WRp--epoQ6GawrKg/w200-h113/20230330_195844.jpg" width="200" /></a></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: justify;"><span style="text-align: left;"><br /></span></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: justify;">Of special note are Skywing's wing and fuse mounted aileron servo lead connectors. No more messing around with wires when you put the plane together. Just slide the wing on and forget about it. Another nice feature is the wing quick latch mechanism. Slide the wing on, flip the switch and go fly. Further, the Slick features quick mount SFGs. Slide them on, tighten the provided thumbscrew and you're done. We timed it, and it took me about a minute and a half to go from car to ready to fly. Without the SFGs it took 30 seconds!</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: justify;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: justify;">Finally, if that's not enough, the plane comes with nice wing bags. Skywing went all out of this one.</div></div><p>For experienced 3D pilots, all of this is good news from the standpoint that you can get a fire breathing plane in the air so quickly with so little effort invested. While we never figure crashing into our plans, at least now when you wreck one it's just money instead of money <i>and</i> a lot of work.</p><p>For the new guys entering balsa, it's less to mess up and it's less to have to learn how to do. The set up is already figured out, so you invest a half hour in assembly and start learning 3D. We have needed this for as long as I can remember, and for those helping new guys, it cuts out a ton of work getting them going.</p><p>So this plane hits the bullseye for those who want to get going quickly, and also is the perfect for the guys who don't yet know how to do things like hinging, cowl mounting and getting the linkages right. Just about everything is done, and whatever isn't done is pretty effortless.</p><p>Here's the specs: <a href="https://www.skywing-rc.com/product_89824.html">48"Slick360-V2 30e 1.2m - RC SKYWING MODEL (skywing-rc.com)</a></p><div><p style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-size: x-large;"><b>The Kit</b></span></p><p>I took it out of the box and started fitting things together and it was done before I remembered to take pictures. Thankfully our friend Skywing Jinwei has already posted a lot of great photos of the ARF and you'll find those here: <a href="https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipO7qsxOTsFxPedpUL0uhrfuv1VgMphUmd-UCLBW_sWNEDMJoeUcgwK5Bj_LinU6MA?fbclid=IwAR1cedrk4-Q-Eo10R6Y-UBcXuo-obK0GTIAzyBLezDECcJsDK_oJLtNXbTA&key=M0REYlItb21sN2lIWlB2dU1yWldXVWM1M3A0TC1n">48"slick360 V2 - Google Photos</a></p><p>At first I went into a mad panic because I could not find the hardware pack. Then I realized there is no hardware pack because everything is already installed! The wings were completely finished. The pushrods were already connected to the control surfaces, and the servo arms are connected to the other end.</p><p>The cowling is mounted and even the prop and spinner are installed. It comes with a nice wood prop painted silver, and it sat dead level on the balancer without doing a thing to it. Also included in a separate pack is an APC-like "Eolo" brand composite prop molded in black The composite prop is a 13/7, and the spec sheet says the same about the wood prop. The Eolo is still in the pack, but it's a good sign Skywing is paying attention to detail by providing a balanced prop.</p><p>Astonishingly, the ailerons and elevator are sealed. I insist on sealing all my planes, but it's a job I hate. It's nice to have it already done for me.</p><p>The entire build was putting the stab in, bolting on the completely finished landing gear/wheel/pant assembly, and putting the servo arms on the rudder and elevator servos. The pushrods for all four surfaces are pre adjusted, so you center the arms with the sub trim and that's it.</p><p>The only problem I ran into was one of the servo arm bolts flew off into never-never land, but there was a little bag taped to the stab package that had a few spares, and that was actually the worst moment I had aside of waiting for the thing to get here!</p><p>I think most guys who have put a T28 together will have zero issues assembling one of these. Everything fit perfectly and nothing needed to be tinkered with. I kind of enjoy building planes, so it was a little disappointing it was so easy, but the finished product more than made up for it.</p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjMcZk-DOMbYjqyElLpkgCo08xoSqddHkvHHKA0Gp1UHp5Ys2piDrVBNCCOOCN6tvnpJm9q6AoyfSIvLqiqmR1_2Cun-6wFNX-s51V_KPGZoLM_hT6Bl4av4IbkPPklX8vREn9X8Hyy3WtRx6iNFsnYEE15ZKfJYCp3gRNVVZfVB-yN7PrGew2LDj0L0w/s4032/20230330_200252.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="2268" data-original-width="4032" height="225" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjMcZk-DOMbYjqyElLpkgCo08xoSqddHkvHHKA0Gp1UHp5Ys2piDrVBNCCOOCN6tvnpJm9q6AoyfSIvLqiqmR1_2Cun-6wFNX-s51V_KPGZoLM_hT6Bl4av4IbkPPklX8vREn9X8Hyy3WtRx6iNFsnYEE15ZKfJYCp3gRNVVZfVB-yN7PrGew2LDj0L0w/w400-h225/20230330_200252.jpg" width="400" /></a></div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj4v4PZhK8NPZRUHyA6-d1tVynd9WaKr0cojcpyv7lP_RL1Ad91EJp7Rr69B7UUDB40JLIWsftRLpCDm9UvChDrcOW0id8d8mTWmpXkf3FhY6hkdKNdAeUn4_-_wgjzF_OUcqnicyyyfeC_3JJYHNbYf0ZGbkFqICNFL8AuAJQ_pwDeanCu1X6h_QzBTg/s4032/20230330_200259.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="2268" data-original-width="4032" height="113" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj4v4PZhK8NPZRUHyA6-d1tVynd9WaKr0cojcpyv7lP_RL1Ad91EJp7Rr69B7UUDB40JLIWsftRLpCDm9UvChDrcOW0id8d8mTWmpXkf3FhY6hkdKNdAeUn4_-_wgjzF_OUcqnicyyyfeC_3JJYHNbYf0ZGbkFqICNFL8AuAJQ_pwDeanCu1X6h_QzBTg/w200-h113/20230330_200259.jpg" width="200" /></a><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEicUExbpi4kDVuwYbO4dfciQ5-3kf85oMUNLFIrlTLEQuIwwuPVxuvVDvKEVfhoJ3Fs0XYqmgq6G5QOqvhv4BZ9JP8DI6LWTOFWsE5dKot0YKwN8rpIOdkeghRuR5xgUw9bRFe5xgoCDEICSUCuds_x2sFKgn2UAew7lFOOlgoCyHPbAoH1KCfa0aOZ3A/s4032/20230330_200309.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="2268" data-original-width="4032" height="113" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEicUExbpi4kDVuwYbO4dfciQ5-3kf85oMUNLFIrlTLEQuIwwuPVxuvVDvKEVfhoJ3Fs0XYqmgq6G5QOqvhv4BZ9JP8DI6LWTOFWsE5dKot0YKwN8rpIOdkeghRuR5xgUw9bRFe5xgoCDEICSUCuds_x2sFKgn2UAew7lFOOlgoCyHPbAoH1KCfa0aOZ3A/w200-h113/20230330_200309.jpg" width="200" /></a></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><b style="font-size: xx-large;">Power System</b></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><b style="font-size: xx-large;"><br /></b></div></div>Plenty of power is supplied by the 6s Sunnysky X3120-KV585. I've seen and flown a few Sunnysky motors in friend's planes and they run really, really well. I've also seen Skywing's video of this plane and it looks like performance is not going to be an issue.<blockquote style="border: none; margin: 0px 0px 0px 40px; padding: 0px;"><p></p><p style="text-align: center;"><img border="0" height="225" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhKkMGPit8B6QpDLcauDzc9eBU3ZFYPg7OAPbzv7k3TMPk5kTDMGzV9QxfiUaPcRR38mCu0LN02hJ_P2s3H8HWSCyfsc9sRyTlAuZvYmkNNNFjbhiqEF_m7OEfpbheH57vXeQMZu4s-tPURbRwdNLPbJidjYlivA0eKVmDKa9oye0MWiJY9JXxf3PMasg/w400-h225/20230330_181856.jpg" width="400" /></p><p></p></blockquote><p> The ESC really caught my eye. This thing is super small and weighs next to nothing. Here you can see the wires are the right length, so there's no mess of wires to bundle up. Like everything else on this plane, its already figured out for you and already done. </p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhKY4726o79qGrldMpl9snaPdPvJUyNJhWXdOrh8zCcqsxGeNrkZz8Bx2bvgmCrdC9ieu6i4htF7v__6Ucue3Xxgb2fUOtTzLhvHQ5qozN-edBoml0CamBH57472aPsbqDYcsoPWbU6wIQVygmgOH7d-TYp2s2GKh3FZPG-wkeB6vklGPQht_k0IFKJvA/s4032/20230330_182033.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="2256" data-original-width="4032" height="224" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhKY4726o79qGrldMpl9snaPdPvJUyNJhWXdOrh8zCcqsxGeNrkZz8Bx2bvgmCrdC9ieu6i4htF7v__6Ucue3Xxgb2fUOtTzLhvHQ5qozN-edBoml0CamBH57472aPsbqDYcsoPWbU6wIQVygmgOH7d-TYp2s2GKh3FZPG-wkeB6vklGPQht_k0IFKJvA/w400-h224/20230330_182033.jpg" width="400" /></a></div><p style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-size: x-large;"><b>Batteries</b></span></p>As always, it's Thunder Power, only this time it's 6s 1800 70C. According to the Thunder Power web site, these weigh 291 grams, which is only 7 grams more than the 4s 2700 packs I usually fly in my 48s. The tsunami of 6s power and bigger prop will more than offset the tiny bit of extra weight.</div><div><br /></div><div>With the battery where you see it now, the CG is absolute dead on the center of the wing tube. I've got plenty of room to move the pack either way, but my guess is this will be pretty close to where it ends up.<br /><p></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; font-weight: bold; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg9SayaihXundFs4k7TZw9Ua-M3slZnQKiBdqM1lZcXjDEBquYCXWSnCd4VEyfEA3BJBlFwE0IOU9gm5dHI0p7IG9FKsy602-pR2BC-E0FBUTHIjxAn-IyrX3uJPyVNWK7xqRsM0PqBU_VoVaC9_BK9SkuUSxZZWs0HVMnc0S5xbbFkRX5DknNTMYPQWw/s4032/20230403_224927.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="2268" data-original-width="4032" height="225" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg9SayaihXundFs4k7TZw9Ua-M3slZnQKiBdqM1lZcXjDEBquYCXWSnCd4VEyfEA3BJBlFwE0IOU9gm5dHI0p7IG9FKsy602-pR2BC-E0FBUTHIjxAn-IyrX3uJPyVNWK7xqRsM0PqBU_VoVaC9_BK9SkuUSxZZWs0HVMnc0S5xbbFkRX5DknNTMYPQWw/w400-h225/20230403_224927.jpg" width="400" /></a></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; font-weight: bold; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; font-weight: bold; text-align: center;"><span style="font-size: x-large;">Radio Installation</span></div><br />I still have a few things to check, and I usually tidying up the wiring and such last, but here's how I have everything layed out.<p></p><p><br /></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; font-weight: bold; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjYYUlJk73VvsyMIinYZAVFlv7FsqlI01PwC8UgZVg3BvyXxn_IzSNMnGHhO4dPdpb3dRsy5wWRSEdLUYcgwbhtFZ6QjoJoP_KysBej9J9b2wqUPl4Y8WEdsOLpD7wJqVn7f6zvEoJ6QnRm1zoV1V3z3wzz6Iszy5dumtHOc0nY-OpE7tM9q7KErEk-3g/s4032/20230403_224954.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="2268" data-original-width="4032" height="180" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjYYUlJk73VvsyMIinYZAVFlv7FsqlI01PwC8UgZVg3BvyXxn_IzSNMnGHhO4dPdpb3dRsy5wWRSEdLUYcgwbhtFZ6QjoJoP_KysBej9J9b2wqUPl4Y8WEdsOLpD7wJqVn7f6zvEoJ6QnRm1zoV1V3z3wzz6Iszy5dumtHOc0nY-OpE7tM9q7KErEk-3g/s320/20230403_224954.jpg" width="320" /></a></div><p></p><p style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-size: x-large;"><b>Set Up</b></span></p><p>There's not a lot to say here because it's already done. There is only one hole on the arm and one hole on the control horn, so there's no guesswork, and it's all assembled anyway.</p><p>On the ailerons I set my end points at 100%, and it's going to be more than enough</p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjifMHjAw0kstx3a_DO_4n_DbhgJdmMpgQXcyYl9jcGFajOMDhZuKYLc8bpaEcCAMMmoo82fWYJEvGY5c8qY2DKL_28GU-nuXiD5H8Z6z42IEelGG0l9kasjN5_-Cm6E2o9iCkEjRUUnv1LAbkSFWL3UxobKa-2oFlH5onFdoFYoCw8ZxJMe_N8NFtPgA/s4032/20230330_182107.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="2268" data-original-width="4032" height="225" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjifMHjAw0kstx3a_DO_4n_DbhgJdmMpgQXcyYl9jcGFajOMDhZuKYLc8bpaEcCAMMmoo82fWYJEvGY5c8qY2DKL_28GU-nuXiD5H8Z6z42IEelGG0l9kasjN5_-Cm6E2o9iCkEjRUUnv1LAbkSFWL3UxobKa-2oFlH5onFdoFYoCw8ZxJMe_N8NFtPgA/w400-h225/20230330_182107.jpg" width="400" /></a></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; 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After that we will post a full flight report with video.</div><div><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg_SwgwcOt2AY9jbVcAiF9C2hVctr9Xp6f3DOG2h5t4wRYRb3RU_iIvxn42aXPBxpVoj5V1O0aUQPb3UyTX1BjMYwlvFOIt-9iGio57Wt1Qj1-is4mlHPdQtQoyhWHIEP3WwdLnm5Fx_uMe5vb6iG9p16bcRfawH6Nb5106HoZidYuxu70QHD_4uy-DJg/s3000/Skywing%20TP%20Arrwork__001.bmp" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1688" data-original-width="3000" height="360" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg_SwgwcOt2AY9jbVcAiF9C2hVctr9Xp6f3DOG2h5t4wRYRb3RU_iIvxn42aXPBxpVoj5V1O0aUQPb3UyTX1BjMYwlvFOIt-9iGio57Wt1Qj1-is4mlHPdQtQoyhWHIEP3WwdLnm5Fx_uMe5vb6iG9p16bcRfawH6Nb5106HoZidYuxu70QHD_4uy-DJg/w640-h360/Skywing%20TP%20Arrwork__001.bmp" width="640" /></a></div><br /><div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div></div></div>Doc Austinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09358924159613442642noreply@blogger.com2tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2245334704739395263.post-81857314649479071762022-10-21T18:20:00.021-04:002022-10-23T09:59:01.740-04:00Extra EXP__Testing The T Motor 480<div>First, apologies for running a little late on the report. Life kind of got in the way.</div><div><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgDSdkTE6YN_gS3yAsb0b4Nc2uN0npfafvKqBS0OS61L_ZXd9k2fxAdLqYdK3-6kz_SrH7lSF7C0y9TY_I00PkrhFC8t5VZ57ofuz4WBrZsC4SuSd4AHOqAzXFR4icbFCyKz3EOEGsOlK74GMiCLAWTrwiB-C5zmy3TJZYp1NwASubDqZhNzj3DDHwTFw/s3000/TP%20Extra%20V2%20Yellow__0002.bmp" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1688" data-original-width="3000" height="360" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgDSdkTE6YN_gS3yAsb0b4Nc2uN0npfafvKqBS0OS61L_ZXd9k2fxAdLqYdK3-6kz_SrH7lSF7C0y9TY_I00PkrhFC8t5VZ57ofuz4WBrZsC4SuSd4AHOqAzXFR4icbFCyKz3EOEGsOlK74GMiCLAWTrwiB-C5zmy3TJZYp1NwASubDqZhNzj3DDHwTFw/w640-h360/TP%20Extra%20V2%20Yellow__0002.bmp" width="640" /></a></div><br /><div><br /></div>After more than a decade of extreme performance and perfect Torque and Airboss reliability, it was hard to give up the idea that they would stay on top forever. Then the T Motor comes along and shatters any doubt it is the way forward in a 48" plane.<div><br /></div><div>The T Motor has a huge advantage of not only having more power but can also run a 13/6.5 prop. These are both the holy grails of power systems, and the T Motor delivers on both. Of course, you have to pay for that somehow, and higher amp draw is the price. However, this was not as severe as I was expecting. I usually come down with 15 volts in the pack after 4.5 minutes, and with the T Motor (which you can see I ran pretty hard) it was 14.8, That's the drop dead figure for quitting on a 4s pack, so we essentially gave up nothing. Not being an engineer or anything, my guess is the motor is simply ten years newer technology and more efficient.</div><div><br /></div><div>Starting at the beginning, the entire product presentation is superb. The boxes are really nice, and that's important because we always need boxes to store and organize our stuff. </div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjN8xvMn4OmfSV0p0-t_nFUCWnRjlTCARWABfcxy9ELxw_lVF6IC7_p8HfF0dsN5tpvLiQv9g0OF7SnUOyluFDXdBHvJwX5ruVkNwkjD6r3b4S2ODDYVksfQX6yg8eYUqHOXYTp022i50ejjpEucZad684f-mV86Jg3bOyWc2n2jU3YSi2JtbzxcZJuDA/s4032/20221002_191645.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="2268" data-original-width="4032" height="180" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjN8xvMn4OmfSV0p0-t_nFUCWnRjlTCARWABfcxy9ELxw_lVF6IC7_p8HfF0dsN5tpvLiQv9g0OF7SnUOyluFDXdBHvJwX5ruVkNwkjD6r3b4S2ODDYVksfQX6yg8eYUqHOXYTp022i50ejjpEucZad684f-mV86Jg3bOyWc2n2jU3YSi2JtbzxcZJuDA/s320/20221002_191645.jpg" width="320" /></a></div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div><div>The motor itself is beautifully made, utterly beautiful. It's honestly as beautiful as a Torque.</div><div><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhx11VWIlKTkzMnufoK187nqj0ba0WrXKzguH9lwLIqARHHI_9J5clNz8f7JjgeWbIurIdeiS-kR_kugLvtpgIGUucoeWFgCcS9QV5sPvtRLiMkCt5gLvB06V5fFOom8gM2fq_AfQ2grQ4wuLcP5UmWeewPubTBgjD1f4_WW-2g-8bwGeEQr0kbmWXz4A/s4032/20221002_192743.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="2268" data-original-width="4032" height="225" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhx11VWIlKTkzMnufoK187nqj0ba0WrXKzguH9lwLIqARHHI_9J5clNz8f7JjgeWbIurIdeiS-kR_kugLvtpgIGUucoeWFgCcS9QV5sPvtRLiMkCt5gLvB06V5fFOom8gM2fq_AfQ2grQ4wuLcP5UmWeewPubTBgjD1f4_WW-2g-8bwGeEQr0kbmWXz4A/w400-h225/20221002_192743.jpg" width="400" /></a></div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhJjpMzezgkGU1C6rqBqMXSElVekGTq3GtHh30jFj3HKNRpRg9VNvICy5VTWiwiaH1BoAwHug6jO1m4BGduR8DLCJ1j57W6Kq6_87GBmTAzywa8zTnqeM-jkGsrzHEp0LFS28UGugkQs8m-Q1NPyIBqjX61Wp0VpDe0SS_u_ld1bpk1lk6u67JnF_W30Q/s4032/20221002_192753.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="2268" data-original-width="4032" height="113" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhJjpMzezgkGU1C6rqBqMXSElVekGTq3GtHh30jFj3HKNRpRg9VNvICy5VTWiwiaH1BoAwHug6jO1m4BGduR8DLCJ1j57W6Kq6_87GBmTAzywa8zTnqeM-jkGsrzHEp0LFS28UGugkQs8m-Q1NPyIBqjX61Wp0VpDe0SS_u_ld1bpk1lk6u67JnF_W30Q/w200-h113/20221002_192753.jpg" width="200" /></a><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEglnmkQcabW_dBHHp65KmPYbHGg4uQgLRoz9Du3KmZaymprVVtnS39PEKQdePCCrS1dHWDsWoiejv0F4YlfOJc0aA7U9aVUqruuRSgvmAwTTuYpvoeVJZ4t4OpVTZ0itaIM-2UjAvffnKItnHp6dD-jRul_pJNV_llrtY7SrzVz6lDESzlOgezEzKcTNQ/s4032/20221002_192756.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="2268" data-original-width="4032" height="113" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEglnmkQcabW_dBHHp65KmPYbHGg4uQgLRoz9Du3KmZaymprVVtnS39PEKQdePCCrS1dHWDsWoiejv0F4YlfOJc0aA7U9aVUqruuRSgvmAwTTuYpvoeVJZ4t4OpVTZ0itaIM-2UjAvffnKItnHp6dD-jRul_pJNV_llrtY7SrzVz6lDESzlOgezEzKcTNQ/w200-h113/20221002_192756.jpg" width="200" /></a></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">The part that really impressed me was the ESC. The entire unit is metal encased. This will make it more durable if you ever shove the motor back into the battery compartment or other abusive behavior. </div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">You can see they paid a lot of attention to cooling the ESC with a plethora of slots. </div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgvg-n0iMbr8fJEBeCyKw715V8EWH7HrF-fpMWndZcKc90xkqd_MfoVlyyBjtUAP5bSRJizeMg-xyUy9x-TT4O-eKaHkczEa0J4z_ACFrQVlE3RS97EswQr1c6URwGA5pwbSdiuu0a_qmLD7XoPIuIS65wkQ89jX3ubykFMwLnijfFYI1m8kzYCMeipQA/s4032/20221006_144439.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="2268" data-original-width="4032" height="225" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgvg-n0iMbr8fJEBeCyKw715V8EWH7HrF-fpMWndZcKc90xkqd_MfoVlyyBjtUAP5bSRJizeMg-xyUy9x-TT4O-eKaHkczEa0J4z_ACFrQVlE3RS97EswQr1c6URwGA5pwbSdiuu0a_qmLD7XoPIuIS65wkQ89jX3ubykFMwLnijfFYI1m8kzYCMeipQA/w400-h225/20221006_144439.jpg" width="400" /></a></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: justify;"><span style="text-align: left;">It also has a really super nice feature of having a slot for the securing zip tie to slide through, On the older heat shrunk units, I hated to crank down on the zip tie too much for fear of crushing something important. With the slot, you just nail it down so it can never move.</span></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: justify;"><span style="text-align: left;"><br /></span></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: justify;"><span style="text-align: left;">One nice advantage on this ESC is the wires to the battery are a little longer. This gives you more flexibility to move the ESC forward or aft and gives you one more tool for adjusting the CG. </span></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: justify;"><span style="text-align: left;"><br /></span></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhktl5Nv0hnNgiKcWUGFm9MQ2ry3LHkbNyzs_zoDYPgpEAG1s24P07UsTikibdVshsWZT8K-xCTL0klwLImXKmdNkoOi55aUUzaIeOysIKW5QO0-mzQ60p_TNUWkKlICPfU9P48UjiKgSB-MHp-UhHW5ABMdifmwabU2DOQlKIC2VAGBxDk63v4k0wkmg/s4032/20221011_132632.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="2268" data-original-width="4032" height="225" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhktl5Nv0hnNgiKcWUGFm9MQ2ry3LHkbNyzs_zoDYPgpEAG1s24P07UsTikibdVshsWZT8K-xCTL0klwLImXKmdNkoOi55aUUzaIeOysIKW5QO0-mzQ60p_TNUWkKlICPfU9P48UjiKgSB-MHp-UhHW5ABMdifmwabU2DOQlKIC2VAGBxDk63v4k0wkmg/w400-h225/20221011_132632.jpg" width="400" /></a></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: justify;"><br /></div></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: justify;">I had to shave the X Mount down a little but that was a 5-minute job. Outside of that it bolted right on, I believe the unit weighs about the same as the 2814/Airboss combo because my CG didn't change. This was a pretty seamless transition, which is always nice when you are trying something new.</div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj6SBAXYlnQoRhEsb669UWrfTvCMg1x8SktWcZI4k1q1eKZp641XFzmX6iCrsZvkxCxT71KCIQskYTJSCXo2trfRe2asMs6LgCINAzLUDfSZqqWWYjM9z68uFMdEAfysAi3k5O21iT_yC_ASFqBhnDwFsb4KUwsSmqnLxFfjMHwbfNGU40pDjWnGXOl2Q/s4032/20221011_132541.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="2268" data-original-width="4032" height="225" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj6SBAXYlnQoRhEsb669UWrfTvCMg1x8SktWcZI4k1q1eKZp641XFzmX6iCrsZvkxCxT71KCIQskYTJSCXo2trfRe2asMs6LgCINAzLUDfSZqqWWYjM9z68uFMdEAfysAi3k5O21iT_yC_ASFqBhnDwFsb4KUwsSmqnLxFfjMHwbfNGU40pDjWnGXOl2Q/w400-h225/20221011_132541.jpg" width="400" /></a></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiD_YjLGBn6XWbr7vzJmmqwFJ6w9XNVf-25ICmCcgGMUOwiBC4lZT80Ny-vRwwBPYN0IL__5z8vgWCjqmXeTqr4KQgdSY0MXfdR0vhO-2HVr9IBs4qQKkL7BGJZOrSq85mfsQ-kmvsZnuQFMu09ZBtMHeQQHxFALHpuDIYUHpE2MoeUdGLOgRv2-vkobw/s4032/20221011_132550.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="2268" data-original-width="4032" height="225" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiD_YjLGBn6XWbr7vzJmmqwFJ6w9XNVf-25ICmCcgGMUOwiBC4lZT80Ny-vRwwBPYN0IL__5z8vgWCjqmXeTqr4KQgdSY0MXfdR0vhO-2HVr9IBs4qQKkL7BGJZOrSq85mfsQ-kmvsZnuQFMu09ZBtMHeQQHxFALHpuDIYUHpE2MoeUdGLOgRv2-vkobw/w400-h225/20221011_132550.jpg" width="400" /></a></div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: justify;">Final thoughts on the motor and ESC themselves is how overwhelmingly nice they are. Of course, we still have to run it, but when stuff is this well made you go in with a really solid degree of confidence.</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: justify;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: justify;">It's an extremely nice looking package.</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhaOlNLCjz8AofW98REXWNieHpkL0Af-RSED9myOjv0I-HyHdY-GTEvCgowr4u--8PHeM9ottIHn-kyW3rgUxaQOCcX9m1QognmWIMYI6dIU-z6GKyeaHgO0r8wpf1T6xdWCNZrDABZZN4Mdsr3Y_nUvsAhoUldo90qj35uwbUXuRUhlgmBn37WHp7Wlw/s4032/Copy%20of%2020221011_132616.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="2256" data-original-width="4032" height="224" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhaOlNLCjz8AofW98REXWNieHpkL0Af-RSED9myOjv0I-HyHdY-GTEvCgowr4u--8PHeM9ottIHn-kyW3rgUxaQOCcX9m1QognmWIMYI6dIU-z6GKyeaHgO0r8wpf1T6xdWCNZrDABZZN4Mdsr3Y_nUvsAhoUldo90qj35uwbUXuRUhlgmBn37WHp7Wlw/w400-h224/Copy%20of%2020221011_132616.jpg" width="400" /></a></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><b><span style="font-size: x-large;">FLYING</span></b></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: justify;"><span style="text-align: left;">First, a few excuses. I had to order a programming cable, so for now I am flying the servos on 6 volts. These are 8 volt servos and much happier on the proper voltage. I could tell a difference, but I've been flying fast servos for years. I don't think most people would have noticed. This part will get better when I get my cable and can ram it up to 8 volts.</span></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: justify;"><span style="text-align: left;"><br /></span></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: justify;"><span style="text-align: left;">We're</span><span style="text-align: left;"> also coming off the back of a horrid cold front and the wind was terrible, choppy and gusty. Since the report is running a little late, it would have been a bad time to tear</span><span style="text-align: left;"> up a plane, so we settled for just running it hard and not trying to do something stupid in bad conditions.</span></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: justify;"><span style="text-align: left;"><br /></span></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: justify;"><span style="text-align: left;">A few really important things to notice here. I have often said nothing is as smooth as a Torque, but this T Motor is even better. It has it's own sound. This thing runs like a stick of butter.</span></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: justify;"><span style="text-align: left;"><br /></span></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: justify;"><span style="text-align: left;">Power is what most people want to hear about, and I am guesstimating we've got about 20% more. Next time out I will run a complete amps/watts test. We were just so excited to fly it that we forgot! </span><span style="text-align: left;">You can check the video for yourself, but this motor blasts of a hover like a Saturn 5 and rockets down the runway like a 60" EXP. Power boarders on being a little too much, but most people like that anyway. In no way will anyone ever be disappointed in this motor's power output.</span></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: justify;"><span style="text-align: left;"><br /></span></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: justify;"><span style="text-align: left;">Of course, there's a price to pay for everything and with this motor it's a slight reduction in flight time. In my case, I usually come down after 4.5 minutes with 15.0 volts in the pack, and with the 480 I get 14.8. Of course, we ran the motor especially hard, and 14.8 is where you want to quit anyway. This is such a small difference I have no explanation other than the newer motor has 10 more years of development behind it and is more efficient. Then again, remember, I am not an engineer. Technically, I am a fun specialist.</span></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: justify;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><iframe allow="autoplay; fullscreen; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="360" src="https://player.vimeo.com/video/762806237?h=9918f33a6d" width="640"></iframe></div><p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="text-align: left;">Also,</span><span style="text-align: left;"> a big improvement is you can run a 13/6.5 prop instead of a 12/6. An inch is not that much on a ruler, but on a prop, it is day and night. Post stall just became so much easier. This is sort of what we experienced on the 52" planes with their massive 15" props. The planes actually fly lighter than they really are because that extra inch blows a lot of air over the lifting surfaces.</span></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: justify;"><span style="text-align: left;">There's more to a motor than brute power though. You want a nice, linear throttle response. Previously the Airboss gave us that, but with the T motor it's much easier to modulate the throttle to get you exactly what you want. When you combine the extra control the bigger prop gives you with a smoother power delivery, that's a 360 win.</span></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: justify;"><span style="text-align: left;"><br /></span></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: justify;"><span style="text-align: left;">I have a little mechanical sympathy and I know when I have got something good in my hands. I ran it up at home to make sure it turned the right direction and right then I could tell I was going to be pleased. I noticed how quiet and smooth it ran just taxiing out. Once I worked the throttle a few times I knew I was not going to have any reliability issues because it was just too damm sweet for that.</span></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: justify;"><span style="text-align: left;"><br /></span></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: justify;"><span style="text-align: left;">These are just the observations on day one and in bad conditions. </span><span style="text-align: left;">I</span><span style="text-align: left;"> will probably come back and add more observations as I</span><span style="text-align: left;"> fly it </span><span style="text-align: left;">more, Still, to walk away this happy made for a pretty good day.</span><span style="text-align: left;"> </span></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: justify;"><span style="text-align: left;"><br /></span></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: justify;"><span style="text-align: left;"><br /></span></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: justify;"><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgef-7NyxSyP6k1jXLigLJ-3GNor5j91CoPIak0801YNjcn2qm2qBikUf3JATxJK9I-eDNNRkqweYO0Kzj5bmHBwEh0F8lGot3VTRNdBa-0u8WiZ3mvLqi_0wkIQQ99whnKQ6P05qdaNrReI_dyjABf8hRa0FelZ7hA72BxlSqSpA0qJktLygmXu7MU8Q/s5000/48%20Extra%20V2%20%20Yellow__001.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="2813" data-original-width="5000" height="225" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgef-7NyxSyP6k1jXLigLJ-3GNor5j91CoPIak0801YNjcn2qm2qBikUf3JATxJK9I-eDNNRkqweYO0Kzj5bmHBwEh0F8lGot3VTRNdBa-0u8WiZ3mvLqi_0wkIQQ99whnKQ6P05qdaNrReI_dyjABf8hRa0FelZ7hA72BxlSqSpA0qJktLygmXu7MU8Q/w400-h225/48%20Extra%20V2%20%20Yellow__001.jpg" width="400" /></a></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgXdVgH-xdAm9J7v28umTOyrefBzGasyCoMIJ5JFmqWVEEXv_bH1qAA1C5EKjFtRTlbpC4Dn_b_Q9k6K_FjM9otqGagsxEs_7D4Kb0vCiQlRDskNpi4bbxPpNGXrDinUDj8eHwUU3QaiLi0p7Jgne9R5tmAWqDABb_MMT6jWsL9zPuzrBO5ebm7-NGJLw/s5000/48%20Extra%20V2%20%20Yellow__006.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="2813" data-original-width="5000" height="113" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgXdVgH-xdAm9J7v28umTOyrefBzGasyCoMIJ5JFmqWVEEXv_bH1qAA1C5EKjFtRTlbpC4Dn_b_Q9k6K_FjM9otqGagsxEs_7D4Kb0vCiQlRDskNpi4bbxPpNGXrDinUDj8eHwUU3QaiLi0p7Jgne9R5tmAWqDABb_MMT6jWsL9zPuzrBO5ebm7-NGJLw/w200-h113/48%20Extra%20V2%20%20Yellow__006.jpg" width="200" /></a><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiOaWX7MrORHI7agRcYcRofqAzPwVbkwzgaeHdE78IkbRYwpXaEHK2rlGDryYttJdsRcFqMqtZLIdLq1Uw10e2tFLo62wAilhjzlxDwuIJH_-klFvt9esASRzSmw91UlC2W8YwRdU_xPlaUwCdAeSL0SZqup3fvsDXbp3RD0wj8OoeWODejYDwC5CY7qQ/s5000/48%20Extra%20V2%20%20Yellow__007.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="2813" data-original-width="5000" height="113" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiOaWX7MrORHI7agRcYcRofqAzPwVbkwzgaeHdE78IkbRYwpXaEHK2rlGDryYttJdsRcFqMqtZLIdLq1Uw10e2tFLo62wAilhjzlxDwuIJH_-klFvt9esASRzSmw91UlC2W8YwRdU_xPlaUwCdAeSL0SZqup3fvsDXbp3RD0wj8OoeWODejYDwC5CY7qQ/w200-h113/48%20Extra%20V2%20%20Yellow__007.jpg" width="200" /></a></div></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEglRWT-ScQ8eqYsAvUw25J3r8Xv_l4H2RvcWyKMVDPkdfOAm8QODdYWsJO_SD0B3UBI02ajQdJdiovYiaPDrWWFNv3GjUBlPIhbjoLtkqVUABtecRte3ENIs8e1GJen4glZa-DriJurz4icjQfgy3LGbMdLvZi35BxzEjdwxfUBO_EnOP2Ua0YaRqskZg/s3500/48%20Extra%20V2%20%20Yellow__008.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1969" data-original-width="3500" height="180" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEglRWT-ScQ8eqYsAvUw25J3r8Xv_l4H2RvcWyKMVDPkdfOAm8QODdYWsJO_SD0B3UBI02ajQdJdiovYiaPDrWWFNv3GjUBlPIhbjoLtkqVUABtecRte3ENIs8e1GJen4glZa-DriJurz4icjQfgy3LGbMdLvZi35BxzEjdwxfUBO_EnOP2Ua0YaRqskZg/s320/48%20Extra%20V2%20%20Yellow__008.jpg" width="320" /></a></div></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: justify;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: justify;"><span style="text-align: left;"><br /></span></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: justify;"><span style="text-align: left;"><b>Nail</b></span></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: justify;"><span style="text-align: left;">Where does this leave the Torque and Airboss series? While no longer the latest and greatest, that's still a valid system. Reliability and durability never go out of style. I think the fact this series has lasted 15 years in an ever-changing market with technology exploding </span><span style="text-align: left;">shows how far ahead Torque was. We had a hell of a run with those motors, and they aren't done yet. </span><span style="text-align: left;">If you have a Torque system, just </span></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: justify;"><span style="text-align: left;">run the crap out of it. </span><span style="text-align: left;">It's paid for and the performance was good enough yesterday.</span><span style="text-align: left;"> </span></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: justify;"><span style="text-align: left;"><br /></span></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: justify;"><span style="text-align: left;">What does this do to the 48" market though? I say it's probably the same thing as has happened with mega servos and Auras. T Motor is the next level up on the technology ladder, just like those other things. The Aura was enough to send the 48s to that next level of performance and then the mega servos made just as much difference. After two flights it's a little early to say T Motor is going to redefine this </span><span style="text-align: left;">division, but I am certainly leaning that way.</span></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: justify;"><span style="text-align: left;"><br /></span></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: justify;"><span style="text-align: left;">So now a 48" can be whatever you want it to be. On one hand it's not that expensive to tweak one completely out with the most mega equipment available. Some of us are such performance nuts that we are seeking any advantage we can find. OTOH, not </span><span style="text-align: left;">everyone wants or needs a plane that is this razor precise, and those folks can get still get away with the older equipment and never feel like they are missing a thing.</span></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: justify;"><span style="text-align: left;"><br /></span></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: justify;"><span style="text-align: left;">You can probably still get away with less expensive servos and no Aura. You can still have joyful flights with any number of power systems, and you can still fly a 48" strictly for sport. The 48s have always been that well rounded. The big difference is now we have the equipment we need to extract all the performance that has always been in these planes.<br /></span></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: justify;"><span style="text-align: left;"><br /></span></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: justify;"><span style="text-align: left;">With the V2 treatment and better equipment, </span><span style="text-align: left;">the Extra became a different plane. A fully tweaked out 48" is now more like a starship than a model plane. The V2 treatment stiffened up the entire plane, the servos center so well that superb tracking is guaranteed, and having the stability provided by the Aura makes these planes far more serious than we could foresee. With the T Motor we add more power and more prop, both winning strategies. Smoother running and more linear throttle response is another bonus.</span></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: justify;"><span style="text-align: left;"><br /></span></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">I have gone through this in the four stages of V2 construction, mega servos, Auras and now T Motors. Each new piece of equipment made for a quantum leap in performance and this T Motor is no different. The equipment has finally (maybe) caught up with the advanced nature of the 48" Extra. Of course, it remains to be seen how the Edge and MXS respond to more power, smoother delivery and big prop, but it certainly woke my Extra up in no uncertain terms.</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjsFvzPhV8sam1S8WpE4TCDmdt_44ZhiRaBXnNOJsVnSWn2MU4L5mqeFaX9123HKdqnLU_uHcIl4LYtRa-VQ0J089bryzi1BBjAqLh9mWYrYbZxsCjne-kF-uBsgjkZaTBk9tTWgWQVLPwLttEshmMVC3ATg9gjJ3yi9tCFxUYzYset485EmhEzZzDaiw/s3000/TP%20Extra%20V2%20Yellow__0004.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1688" data-original-width="3000" height="360" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjsFvzPhV8sam1S8WpE4TCDmdt_44ZhiRaBXnNOJsVnSWn2MU4L5mqeFaX9123HKdqnLU_uHcIl4LYtRa-VQ0J089bryzi1BBjAqLh9mWYrYbZxsCjne-kF-uBsgjkZaTBk9tTWgWQVLPwLttEshmMVC3ATg9gjJ3yi9tCFxUYzYset485EmhEzZzDaiw/w640-h360/TP%20Extra%20V2%20Yellow__0004.jpg" width="640" /></a></div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><br />Doc Austinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09358924159613442642noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2245334704739395263.post-45292455217514573092022-01-09T19:19:00.010-05:002023-11-15T15:27:01.596-05:0048" MXS V2__Bad Attitude Flight Testing
Life kind of got in the way and I couldn't get the text for the flight review finished until now.<div class="separator" style="clear: both;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEhYerT4TkI0Q7JQf6WW6W725ucbnF9dgZEwGmNYjR-FylwXauIZ2y9YtLicv-Z37H3iuFJ4vCQZ9rFZ7AAEpGI8-zwY_Wqhv0EeqhZpcXjjKW2zdINLBv7mNv3Au5udq_ZIuq5tt7Hu7vLJBzxYPrvy7645trJnw9Mg-u-bSakfsYV9bxmL-OSJlk4XyQ=s3000" style="display: block; padding: 1em 0px; text-align: center;"><img alt="" border="0" data-original-height="1688" data-original-width="3000" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEhYerT4TkI0Q7JQf6WW6W725ucbnF9dgZEwGmNYjR-FylwXauIZ2y9YtLicv-Z37H3iuFJ4vCQZ9rFZ7AAEpGI8-zwY_Wqhv0EeqhZpcXjjKW2zdINLBv7mNv3Au5udq_ZIuq5tt7Hu7vLJBzxYPrvy7645trJnw9Mg-u-bSakfsYV9bxmL-OSJlk4XyQ=s600" width="600" /></a><div class="separator" style="clear: both;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both;">Having flown the 48" MXS for over a decade, this V2 was a much anticipated plane for me. I had fallen in love with my 60" V2 the instant I opened the box, and the 48" was much the same thing. </div><div class="separator" style="clear: both;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both;">With V2 construction the planes are now much more durable and the fit and finish of everything is better than stellar. V2 construction also gives you a stiffer airframe, one that doesn't flex under load. You can tell the V2 stays straight and aligned the moment you turn after take-off. The airframe is largely unchanged externally, but the stiffer construction makes a big difference you can feel right away.</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both;"><br /></div><br /></div>
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<div class="separator" style="clear: both;">The V1 and V2s fly essentially the same except the V2 does everything a little better simply because it is more refined. Add to that better precision thanks to the increased stiffness and you've got a better airplane.</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both;"><div class="separator" style="clear: both;">The best way to sum up the MXS is that it is a lot like you would expect from a short coupled Extra. The MXS is much more lively, though it surrenders a little to the Extra in precision flying. These two are very similar, except the Extra is biased a little more toward smooth, precise flying and the MXS is tailored more toward better agility and more violent snapping.</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both;">For 3D, the MXS' short coupling gives you better control authority. You can spin the MXS around in a tighter harrier turn, so this is a great plane for smaller fields. Harrier manners are very, very good, but you can see that in the video. Overall, while similar to the Extra, the MXS is still different enough in flying manners that both are worth having. They are just biased a little one way or the other on the precision vrs agility scale.</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both;">While different, I fly them relatively the same. The MXS is stronger than the Extra in some maneuvers and the opposite is true in others.</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both;">Overall, I think the MXS is a good second 3D aircraft. It's a very stable plane, but the level of agility is maybe a bit too much to be learning 3D on. Most people like the Edge for 3D training, but once you get past that most pilots will find the MXS' agility to be useful and even amusing. If you are already flying an Extra, you can jump into an MXS and feel pretty much at home right away.</div></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both;"><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEi5TdDn6DI1KlY3LNtvExlYV27Lwb7bzo3lo-JIRg3rX1ZEucv-nRTxfRTIdbrkpKt-NmwCdtClA-btqnmchbHt7S7gb4SFAszZxPhwX_8Pr_kNd289M42cQYCNKiLKJZMzBlPuvNRUiM-CXOZAajA_TY8VcXXJdx2gMJeS7gTh9ZAi5wPUAIcfyv_4mQ=s3000" style="display: inline; padding: 1em 0px;"><iframe allow="autoplay; fullscreen; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="360" src="https://player.vimeo.com/video/664045342?h=238dded3d2" width="640"></iframe></a></div></div><p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEha5PSTap0VtgOl_onJJUJV9_7fX-MddEYBQSpej2qXZJ99RKL2o8ZKYvkVxsDBXkdryT796ELFNcfRGYWX0YmsPVNjqFQ-4vnoHVO32qRcaa-U1bN7vT6GEf11oAN2j9zRmIEy_gWZsB4HiJmIPlv_SyTHYW3A48iecnY8wdS5pZ127s0KpV0GnxtsRA=s4032" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="2268" data-original-width="4032" height="225" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEha5PSTap0VtgOl_onJJUJV9_7fX-MddEYBQSpej2qXZJ99RKL2o8ZKYvkVxsDBXkdryT796ELFNcfRGYWX0YmsPVNjqFQ-4vnoHVO32qRcaa-U1bN7vT6GEf11oAN2j9zRmIEy_gWZsB4HiJmIPlv_SyTHYW3A48iecnY8wdS5pZ127s0KpV0GnxtsRA=w400-h225" width="400" /></a></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEjbQ2DFzdIkuw1Wun-xzInN3KI5ChgtRM34vw8ZmF6B75S-5sHBSF2dAlDC160LUC-moN3yoLK3aabrBuicqmbxr3BL8UvGbIm1YiTPO9rY1e1kJziQeLplfTSKCjBS68GX3RHTC7YG99l-zgW7xglaMcmjp1poq6JJE8Lc941xje0NS_71TeGS8-14sw=s4032" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="2268" data-original-width="4032" height="113" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEjbQ2DFzdIkuw1Wun-xzInN3KI5ChgtRM34vw8ZmF6B75S-5sHBSF2dAlDC160LUC-moN3yoLK3aabrBuicqmbxr3BL8UvGbIm1YiTPO9rY1e1kJziQeLplfTSKCjBS68GX3RHTC7YG99l-zgW7xglaMcmjp1poq6JJE8Lc941xje0NS_71TeGS8-14sw=w200-h113" width="200" /></a><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEgdo-C3kxuyH1WJxPfLthISbbVTHUjnRVxampfXRqtIbSL4xyFNg3XHQ5WFVcgswrlf3TmdaEqP1by_saPBlksGJD86w5E3CCSIJ6It2Eg_MvavDb4OlNkORDInfKD3t3aEAGffzzR3JzXLkxNfGJsI4j4-j1sDHs5_QkI4HNHh9jVc5HSfq6YYN5SBbw=s4032" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="2268" data-original-width="4032" height="113" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEgdo-C3kxuyH1WJxPfLthISbbVTHUjnRVxampfXRqtIbSL4xyFNg3XHQ5WFVcgswrlf3TmdaEqP1by_saPBlksGJD86w5E3CCSIJ6It2Eg_MvavDb4OlNkORDInfKD3t3aEAGffzzR3JzXLkxNfGJsI4j4-j1sDHs5_QkI4HNHh9jVc5HSfq6YYN5SBbw=w200-h113" width="200" /></a></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both;"><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEjUwmmAoobFu_Jpp6aXmjCGSeClNqCVHQb14TJtjkO0_XphJJQH9rnklhtaBCc3hUYhH8aG9kzNZwR1uClPP9rUchXtky3i--_hHXWf8q_WvO8yzp20uHHrleQgjn_scH3o4-jJMNqk8IlDaJn-yVQ51TkgXnEG78RlOKI-pFfhQNLj9aO9jj2K6YDJ7A=s4032" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="2268" data-original-width="4032" height="225" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEjUwmmAoobFu_Jpp6aXmjCGSeClNqCVHQb14TJtjkO0_XphJJQH9rnklhtaBCc3hUYhH8aG9kzNZwR1uClPP9rUchXtky3i--_hHXWf8q_WvO8yzp20uHHrleQgjn_scH3o4-jJMNqk8IlDaJn-yVQ51TkgXnEG78RlOKI-pFfhQNLj9aO9jj2K6YDJ7A=w400-h225" width="400" /></a></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div>It's a little more challenging to deal with all of that agility, but you can easily get around that with set up. For example, I only have two raters on my radio anyway, so I use the 3D and low rates from the manual. I completely discarded the "insane" rate because it's not really necessary and the plane overall flies better on the 3D rate.</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both;">Of the 3 currently available 48s, I would rate the Edge as the best plane for people learning 3D, but it still does very crisp precision. The Extra for most precise plane in the lineup, but still 3Ds extremely well. The MSX is for those who want the no compromises, hardcore king of badass. </div><div class="separator" style="clear: both;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both;">Finally, the only way to really judge a plane is in how much fun you have with it, and the MXS has always delivered on that front. The MXS has always been a really special plan for me and now it is much, much nicer all the way around, and flies better too.</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both;"><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEiugp6xG2hLStCct0qqtm-6k0OxvFOc9LD283-_iv7Bduy77v_4e9MRdx_8d_c3WsR7fVk2SKw3jKX3LULoPUHsRBu_e6y4XG7GsJCVrtHrJ8YjDuxCCSe3TAFAVZKO92ubOlRRrEVIz7AeMqJoFANxnEX_7j_8K2MvZAzzZLuIbs7v2taibY2VWcngZg=s4032" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="2268" data-original-width="4032" height="225" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEiugp6xG2hLStCct0qqtm-6k0OxvFOc9LD283-_iv7Bduy77v_4e9MRdx_8d_c3WsR7fVk2SKw3jKX3LULoPUHsRBu_e6y4XG7GsJCVrtHrJ8YjDuxCCSe3TAFAVZKO92ubOlRRrEVIz7AeMqJoFANxnEX_7j_8K2MvZAzzZLuIbs7v2taibY2VWcngZg=w400-h225" width="400" /></a></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; 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<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEg2w3T0fGHMPK37_moU7KlYP2qf-Z_SjyJ-uLWrPKhdPj5m3APQnWiU5gbKFMoaXrnl0E1D3fITz4rGgtSpR0DC3nTwAVGaPOCj7FrKRmS8lJLo2wwELuTgCUXRDTfyzq3JkWM5y6o6MSeRJ0Bav07jALlrwcx2FCP7qwuFqtLdGTck39Yf-52o1ErqAQ=s3000" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1688" data-original-width="3000" height="360" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEg2w3T0fGHMPK37_moU7KlYP2qf-Z_SjyJ-uLWrPKhdPj5m3APQnWiU5gbKFMoaXrnl0E1D3fITz4rGgtSpR0DC3nTwAVGaPOCj7FrKRmS8lJLo2wwELuTgCUXRDTfyzq3JkWM5y6o6MSeRJ0Bav07jALlrwcx2FCP7qwuFqtLdGTck39Yf-52o1ErqAQ=w640-h360" width="640" /></a></div><br />Doc Austinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09358924159613442642noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2245334704739395263.post-11757095372808852892022-01-04T15:37:00.013-05:002022-10-22T16:09:25.848-04:00Extreme Flight 48" MXS V2__Bad Attitude 2022<div><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEja0XVP6XmALpNLhtf_iRO6vyUWCA6OUuvMItTmPKeORW3mC1DfNYsaRqXpsjRV2Mvg3rX3OChSuB-WyEsE3muhleDvZunPTIKZrMnq96-F4v4AgUTDUCbu_mq7Rcmaif1iQSV3szT4RgsgBGxqi2HwlhLHjBltcCW1WEFWz3BOmiX5KAtGgBhKyCC9PA=s3000" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1688" data-original-width="3000" height="360" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEja0XVP6XmALpNLhtf_iRO6vyUWCA6OUuvMItTmPKeORW3mC1DfNYsaRqXpsjRV2Mvg3rX3OChSuB-WyEsE3muhleDvZunPTIKZrMnq96-F4v4AgUTDUCbu_mq7Rcmaif1iQSV3szT4RgsgBGxqi2HwlhLHjBltcCW1WEFWz3BOmiX5KAtGgBhKyCC9PA=w640-h360" width="640" /></a></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div><br /></div><div>The 48"MXS has been such an incredible plane for so long it really hurt when we couldn't get them any more. The 60" V2 sort of made up for it because that plane is so spectacular, but I missed having a smaller grab-n-go version. The news that a 48" V2 was on it's way really excited me. I have most of the equipment on hand, so all that was left was the agonizing wait, and now that's finally over.</div><div><br /></div><div>With the arrival of the MXS V2, the 48" class is really hopping again. There was a lot of excitement last year with the Extra V2 and Edge V2, and now the MXS makes three brand new V2 entries into the class. There might even be more coming, so things look pretty sweet for the four footers.</div><div><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEhvm8nTov_uXVswcfwmFt977DQfKUx5A2iQCiG-iljIj_qad2VSPPcTqtbHzJTjw2u94JGpiUmqRqhZjAWUcdudfjYvItPq0tUicnHN4zAczB0LNGodJrLSDQqKhaFAMSw8wpmD1xT6pssAVpGGmBcqA6a9ohYmH0fameolNZWX-azMfeR85gNDB4FkVg=s4032" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="2268" data-original-width="4032" height="113" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEhvm8nTov_uXVswcfwmFt977DQfKUx5A2iQCiG-iljIj_qad2VSPPcTqtbHzJTjw2u94JGpiUmqRqhZjAWUcdudfjYvItPq0tUicnHN4zAczB0LNGodJrLSDQqKhaFAMSw8wpmD1xT6pssAVpGGmBcqA6a9ohYmH0fameolNZWX-azMfeR85gNDB4FkVg=w200-h113" width="200" /></a><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEgPRFLaQYEByhUXVhPtImI_3N12ktIbNTRGbyHfZIVpZUpwYmj0NbErpi1LHK2hA2rWqCuNYQgaliOmL_tiRMGRYGH2EVUk_YZ3libCt-11YWNLbTicGMugrfzmwZQl2VHwpqlGyjpZSqLQYbueatWxMqTOdjYXLJSc25CNPy5ENJVeGZn5v7TbPtonyA=s4032" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="2268" data-original-width="4032" height="113" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEgPRFLaQYEByhUXVhPtImI_3N12ktIbNTRGbyHfZIVpZUpwYmj0NbErpi1LHK2hA2rWqCuNYQgaliOmL_tiRMGRYGH2EVUk_YZ3libCt-11YWNLbTicGMugrfzmwZQl2VHwpqlGyjpZSqLQYbueatWxMqTOdjYXLJSc25CNPy5ENJVeGZn5v7TbPtonyA=w200-h113" width="200" /></a></div></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEiBHjK6qFDKsfO5COtDcAIEmSLuwbLhoDqOa8nn-hSUpjUZfjjE3I91ZQPYc1dyXJhYYPHL-8bSlKCTTXN3vQ70pcKMlC2r1kwhUsS1X8_ru1Ozi85caDb2Fdqyb2lrWdweA-bjFglElQwSIEhkvloe1uHa7Z06bpR2tMQwtsIFqmuir_nmFExIXx8u3A=s4032" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="2268" data-original-width="4032" height="180" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEiBHjK6qFDKsfO5COtDcAIEmSLuwbLhoDqOa8nn-hSUpjUZfjjE3I91ZQPYc1dyXJhYYPHL-8bSlKCTTXN3vQ70pcKMlC2r1kwhUsS1X8_ru1Ozi85caDb2Fdqyb2lrWdweA-bjFglElQwSIEhkvloe1uHa7Z06bpR2tMQwtsIFqmuir_nmFExIXx8u3A=s320" width="320" /></a></div><br /><div>These V2 airframes are such a big jump in performance and stability that they changed the game. The V2s make extensive use of carbon, G10 mixed composites, and advanced construction, to lay a great foundation to build the new MXS V2 on. What you are seeing in this new MXS is what was learned from 10 years of flying the plane, coupled with the latest composites and advanced construction. It gives you a stronger, better flying and more durable plane, which is especially important the way we treat them!</div><div><div>Personally, the MXS has always been a special plane for me. The V2 is just more special, but we'll get more into that in the flight report. We will take some photos of the plane out in the sun when we go to the field. Right now, we have nasty winds and no camera guys, so hopefully tomorrow.</div><div><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEgpSruOG6Fs9b1dCarHQLTARNKyin9llODvTg1VDocUPXGbGBGuxUKxRZPpjNvv0C4imLxcUUK5mo9KcNQE_72jZEyhxMJIQMTbLId1VilDVXLqf6ieWfV8SkPAOd3dJNnlpgkxbCH3HX-VYJp99JVVJP3uR9ukr52_3cPjZ-puYebSARS83o60h6OaaQ=s4032" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="2268" data-original-width="4032" height="225" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEgpSruOG6Fs9b1dCarHQLTARNKyin9llODvTg1VDocUPXGbGBGuxUKxRZPpjNvv0C4imLxcUUK5mo9KcNQE_72jZEyhxMJIQMTbLId1VilDVXLqf6ieWfV8SkPAOd3dJNnlpgkxbCH3HX-VYJp99JVVJP3uR9ukr52_3cPjZ-puYebSARS83o60h6OaaQ=w400-h225" width="400" /></a></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEj76mstyzkHs18DVu8ZlL4x3Iuhog2WcfnXWwTgwaMnmn9akKWzSc9ZG4fvaVR1xTEvgYjU2JLu8liq3JqiOSSFSRe450b-EpQALFOpeYQl1gck9wVVZPIglohOyjHxTInEm-bqRx3b82UbOtWF20793MRtoO7RzmlPVQF1sHmP1uBMhlV9RpEplQnSOQ=s4032" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="2268" data-original-width="4032" height="113" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEj76mstyzkHs18DVu8ZlL4x3Iuhog2WcfnXWwTgwaMnmn9akKWzSc9ZG4fvaVR1xTEvgYjU2JLu8liq3JqiOSSFSRe450b-EpQALFOpeYQl1gck9wVVZPIglohOyjHxTInEm-bqRx3b82UbOtWF20793MRtoO7RzmlPVQF1sHmP1uBMhlV9RpEplQnSOQ=w200-h113" width="200" /></a><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEjG2ba2fFvac2rw3JrR9Fa59pxron-MeTkucARj_SLsGA-8AgiDahG4_h0LdfySrJ-znG6zTzhgIqSO4E_PVKucQD3LKx-_Hsm4aKCDC1OPWgHoM0GGLjMVgSmYk6AF6uE0aF5B3iJ3Ue2Ybh0Zi79s04M5LRZxVOFk3ZoTs6_pw2SmH_O5RSH9iaR4lg=s4032" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="2268" data-original-width="4032" height="113" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEjG2ba2fFvac2rw3JrR9Fa59pxron-MeTkucARj_SLsGA-8AgiDahG4_h0LdfySrJ-znG6zTzhgIqSO4E_PVKucQD3LKx-_Hsm4aKCDC1OPWgHoM0GGLjMVgSmYk6AF6uE0aF5B3iJ3Ue2Ybh0Zi79s04M5LRZxVOFk3ZoTs6_pw2SmH_O5RSH9iaR4lg=w200-h113" width="200" /></a></div></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div></div></div>Another improvement is the bottom of the stab now matches the checkerboard on the wing. The asymmetry of this on the V1 always made me a little crazy, probably from OCD, but now it's perfect. <div><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEgeT515wtEkbUs_-Wf4uWLffw91wzzX3Cr7ltxW6YULVZmHL_skzA2HNs7i9j2p9tKJ6CaDdgUsiszbFxSL50lZUQy84CHIw5C-0Yf8CfD3ny4084CRLx2W2JC4woL8X8epnNxrRqMBDhc4eLAEc8p-koAf10KKwHbMcQekZw28lxjzxQnB7y-QwY3YYg=s4032" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="2268" data-original-width="4032" height="180" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEgeT515wtEkbUs_-Wf4uWLffw91wzzX3Cr7ltxW6YULVZmHL_skzA2HNs7i9j2p9tKJ6CaDdgUsiszbFxSL50lZUQy84CHIw5C-0Yf8CfD3ny4084CRLx2W2JC4woL8X8epnNxrRqMBDhc4eLAEc8p-koAf10KKwHbMcQekZw28lxjzxQnB7y-QwY3YYg=s320" width="320" /></a></div><br /><div><b>The Kit</b></div><div><div><div><div>As has become the norm with the other 48" V2s, the quality of the kits is now bonkers. Everything is beautifully finished and fits perfectly with no tinkering. The composites are so beautifully done it just sets everything off. The wow factor is amazing. </div><div><br /></div><div>Previously, the 60" planes were a bit nicer. Maybe it was the size or something, but they always seemed a little better turned out. That has now disappeared and these V2s are as serious as it gets, especially if you go for premium servos and a good electronic stability system.</div><div><br /></div><div>The most obvious of the changes is going to be the extensive use of carbon and G10 mixed composite construction. There are times when only carbon will do, like landing gear supports, or other rods and tubes. However, for things like formers black G10 laminate is nearly as strong, nearly as light and much less expensive. The G10 laminates are so strong that you don't need a lot of carbon just for that sake of having carbon. Each material has it's own use, and applying G10 where it is most effective is a great way to cut costs while still having composites that will do the job and look cool too.</div></div><div><br /></div><div>The MXS comes with the same wing quick latch as seen on the other V2s, which is nice if you have to take the wings off for transport. I generally leave the wings on mine except when I am doing maintenance, and then it's nice I don't have to fight with wing bolts. Those of you with arthritis will especially appreciate that part.</div><div><br /></div><div><b>Motorbox</b></div><div>As seen on earlier 60" planes, and more lately the other 48" V2s, gone are the carbon support rods replaced by angled motor box construction. This gives you just as stiff of a motorbox, but the angled sides become wider as you move back, and this allows much better access to the battery and easier change out.</div><div><br /></div><table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"><tbody><tr><td style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEiV__zpkLzQcRHdawoJCSx-2enJs-1bKqj96_R5ITNixcW1gdWw1nNd-CM2pe1Zwyw1NM9oKfrRz_ouN0D1-pn1cwzaF3l4z4DAWqO1a6CwGFcMd7Ol1EUntrwhM8UK274V8toVyQuWc8Jd6Rt-DHRvSZYGsTIzAws9wtiiNBMFgJfUTswd9qjB7xhFLw=s4032" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"><img border="0" data-original-height="2268" data-original-width="4032" height="225" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEiV__zpkLzQcRHdawoJCSx-2enJs-1bKqj96_R5ITNixcW1gdWw1nNd-CM2pe1Zwyw1NM9oKfrRz_ouN0D1-pn1cwzaF3l4z4DAWqO1a6CwGFcMd7Ol1EUntrwhM8UK274V8toVyQuWc8Jd6Rt-DHRvSZYGsTIzAws9wtiiNBMFgJfUTswd9qjB7xhFLw=w400-h225" width="400" /></a></td></tr><tr><td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"></td></tr></tbody></table><div><br /></div><b>Wing Lock System</b></div><div>As is becoming the norm with the newest Extreme Flight releases, the MXS features a quick release wing attachment mechanism. You slide the wing on and move the latch forward, which captures the wing bolt. The mechanism is spring loaded, so it locks solidly into place. Naturally, after years of using other methods, I was a little skeptical, but we've been using this system for two years now with great results. </div><div><br /></div><div>Locked and ready to fly......</div><div><br /></div><div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj5Js9McLRDdklq8FxknvS4iH-GidCvr6o-Qg_HOTw6-ci7EvLsG-IcbqjJtKauMwMy-9g5TLQSP__Qvucsf87rbYU9WHB_2v-ycEpz0_40UuVj19bAAW5-1XoleUjSaaqKEpDRTEJx2ufp/" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img alt="" data-original-height="180" data-original-width="320" height="225" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj5Js9McLRDdklq8FxknvS4iH-GidCvr6o-Qg_HOTw6-ci7EvLsG-IcbqjJtKauMwMy-9g5TLQSP__Qvucsf87rbYU9WHB_2v-ycEpz0_40UuVj19bAAW5-1XoleUjSaaqKEpDRTEJx2ufp/w400-h225/image.png" width="400" /></a></div><br />In the first picture you can see the latch open. In the second the wing is on with the wing bolt sticking through, not yet latched firmly.</div><div><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEhSUS8_3kHTJ3Oo_0mUHtWWj2Ai91ZR6B-DmqwuFL89h_0FOirhS4hoCNIC7uD1f0Y76___0PJ_XfkehsQQevGoYCvruqynHOoGav2aUJH2o_hcXIMhwHpyEzg5ohl75jNYhcg3OlBQkWC75XDJ87weiWNUZCt7EA4_2m1YBXwnOB3Dd--n_Pz6Z8jeNw=s4032" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="2268" data-original-width="4032" height="113" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEhSUS8_3kHTJ3Oo_0mUHtWWj2Ai91ZR6B-DmqwuFL89h_0FOirhS4hoCNIC7uD1f0Y76___0PJ_XfkehsQQevGoYCvruqynHOoGav2aUJH2o_hcXIMhwHpyEzg5ohl75jNYhcg3OlBQkWC75XDJ87weiWNUZCt7EA4_2m1YBXwnOB3Dd--n_Pz6Z8jeNw=w200-h113" width="200" /></a><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEgrp5OGWk6MbWC7eBLJ3DAbvGBkliE9c-TmTqSsvKeXHfbEJ3wGpNw4r06ntHPs60_L87RwGy00czhsOQhoQs9aoWzKQfSYpLq6jrHYV5D5YG_DAVk79c1ZLYvNLq3SlZ5PI1tm3bo46SgIPgcGkr10x3TP1L0-DnvoUE6-R4jDiKvFYtIFBOz7gJKccg=s4032" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="2268" data-original-width="4032" height="113" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEgrp5OGWk6MbWC7eBLJ3DAbvGBkliE9c-TmTqSsvKeXHfbEJ3wGpNw4r06ntHPs60_L87RwGy00czhsOQhoQs9aoWzKQfSYpLq6jrHYV5D5YG_DAVk79c1ZLYvNLq3SlZ5PI1tm3bo46SgIPgcGkr10x3TP1L0-DnvoUE6-R4jDiKvFYtIFBOz7gJKccg=w200-h113" width="200" /></a></div></div><br />I never took the wings off my 48s for anything but maintenance anyway because the plane would fit in the trunk assembled, but I know a lot of guys take multiple planes, and quick assembly/disassembly makes these 48s even more convenient than they already were.</div><div><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEgV5cQp7SxQqo2-8-XB1zUJYcpowpK0-woFBiMQdh5R9VHsQwzk9gU1jW4KOofpVUBUCYJ54NG_z7Kw2F739YkutlcG0paY5Gx4fb1RjyATcqL-e3lzvu3e6SqDxZOCojF2muyZUDf3zkik0Z8A0Z4jhUIWARlPCuLUfqQmO7lV294o_AARDOFZzSHLEg=s4032" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="2268" data-original-width="4032" height="180" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEgV5cQp7SxQqo2-8-XB1zUJYcpowpK0-woFBiMQdh5R9VHsQwzk9gU1jW4KOofpVUBUCYJ54NG_z7Kw2F739YkutlcG0paY5Gx4fb1RjyATcqL-e3lzvu3e6SqDxZOCojF2muyZUDf3zkik0Z8A0Z4jhUIWARlPCuLUfqQmO7lV294o_AARDOFZzSHLEg=s320" width="320" /></a></div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEh97R9cGzfDI8MWFWrD8Jw4-dj48uLDsNlmbHnxkbx6kuJaaEwpnPHlPTwOkOPR9jZBrIirw5wM2J24koYvrxruZlZcUL_eWHfLGpJAf6JGlMswYlM8xSw9xB_bq6ytn8xqVOte0xXin6E7Qy3WZuf77dZTlLAw93z-iJSmHrmCb8-jk2CO_HUrHmBzTg=s4032" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="2268" data-original-width="4032" height="113" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEh97R9cGzfDI8MWFWrD8Jw4-dj48uLDsNlmbHnxkbx6kuJaaEwpnPHlPTwOkOPR9jZBrIirw5wM2J24koYvrxruZlZcUL_eWHfLGpJAf6JGlMswYlM8xSw9xB_bq6ytn8xqVOte0xXin6E7Qy3WZuf77dZTlLAw93z-iJSmHrmCb8-jk2CO_HUrHmBzTg=w200-h113" width="200" /></a><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEgOlbkr3sbNMBuB5qBuMhj4IiJrbnJga1OAU1TcFIam7z7yFfTZAzKYt3Y_GeBCTr-VJcKaIIw-7JFdrJVk8N9HwQTYXMEGibyqbIxPpEu1crn0Vs8aT6toZPCkvgUd9X7R3co5CBb-haVJaXb71K44EQ0z8h8WlMZcMqQ7mDSpkOwxTPxGxZj_zbGsEw=s4032" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="2268" data-original-width="4032" height="113" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEgOlbkr3sbNMBuB5qBuMhj4IiJrbnJga1OAU1TcFIam7z7yFfTZAzKYt3Y_GeBCTr-VJcKaIIw-7JFdrJVk8N9HwQTYXMEGibyqbIxPpEu1crn0Vs8aT6toZPCkvgUd9X7R3co5CBb-haVJaXb71K44EQ0z8h8WlMZcMqQ7mDSpkOwxTPxGxZj_zbGsEw=w200-h113" width="200" /></a></div></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div><div><b>Self Aligning stabilizer Installation</b></div><div>Here's what I think it the most underrated innovation of the last decade. I always hated putting the horizontal stabilizer in because if you get it wrong, you get a bad flying plane. All the newest Extreme Flight planes feature a self aligning stabilizer. The front of the stabilizer is notched at the center, and the leading edge is flat. The leading edge of the stabilizer saddle in the fuse has two little alignment pieces. You side the stab forward until the flat surface of the LE butts up against the alignment pieces and that squares the stabilizer up to the wing.</div><div><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEjJdCCU0ij0yT4foL5Ym2aNXLKxneYt_HfUGIJ8oqpWRcvdZC21unMuk0Gog7I0xeC40Qglvj29NvZG_-mjXy6tvspZMngQmWFWC7KoT2J2PZPUy3DkycRmW1YElbBSJ4vIaRkfPX1eRUNTNv2JI6MpPU0g_4n1fuYVL8g32HBZsnPSUgguf6LoWbzqYA=s4032" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="2268" data-original-width="4032" height="225" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEjJdCCU0ij0yT4foL5Ym2aNXLKxneYt_HfUGIJ8oqpWRcvdZC21unMuk0Gog7I0xeC40Qglvj29NvZG_-mjXy6tvspZMngQmWFWC7KoT2J2PZPUy3DkycRmW1YElbBSJ4vIaRkfPX1eRUNTNv2JI6MpPU0g_4n1fuYVL8g32HBZsnPSUgguf6LoWbzqYA=w400-h225" width="400" /></a></div><br /><div><br /></div><div>This is an ingenious little arrangement that takes the most stressful part of the build away. Slide it forward, and glue. You're done. However, these are mass produced items, so I always measure mine anyway, partially to be sure, and partially because of OCD.</div><div><br /></div><div><b>Filler Pieces</b></div><div>The only thing on the V1 that was not perfect was the slot behind the elevator. It had to be there so you could slide the elevator in and back out of the way before you put the stab in. We loved the V1 so much no one ever complained about it, but aesthetically it wasn't ideal. For the V1 the MXS borrows a trick first seen on the Velox with little filler pieces to fill the gap.</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"> </div></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEh5LLzaEkpBdM13RDUtWJ_IEFOpjj5K6BhSsiUWX5Lt5zT373R13PUUFu82Bv3prEQwxrWHyDnLFNEEPJca60ltCC58uTbEHWXtLkEY6qE82ws57l3d-mMkFHDsFapye4w_BbAEcKgBvmdHDMKohUka3FMasSP2d7_gF4dhRlklL0lxvf4wy3yqEZxxwQ=s4032" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="2268" data-original-width="4032" height="113" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEh5LLzaEkpBdM13RDUtWJ_IEFOpjj5K6BhSsiUWX5Lt5zT373R13PUUFu82Bv3prEQwxrWHyDnLFNEEPJca60ltCC58uTbEHWXtLkEY6qE82ws57l3d-mMkFHDsFapye4w_BbAEcKgBvmdHDMKohUka3FMasSP2d7_gF4dhRlklL0lxvf4wy3yqEZxxwQ=w200-h113" width="200" /></a><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEjNMfQZGaPDysdzqY4kVce0f1jaQKZbljwmpDp2U1A2fHTMVX90Vcv8OiY118MdWvHv0ENyT1ALQfuu74mhmR9DgtwMlJI6YiYXUils0q7yaHV0iflY1ZUBD6xw1c1jcO0PCsIWKEY_9O-oxYsBXKmEU_0UOv9CMCXJK0Z6czQhyPiBDSmYZR_EP_UqKA=s4032" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="2256" data-original-width="4032" height="112" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEjNMfQZGaPDysdzqY4kVce0f1jaQKZbljwmpDp2U1A2fHTMVX90Vcv8OiY118MdWvHv0ENyT1ALQfuu74mhmR9DgtwMlJI6YiYXUils0q7yaHV0iflY1ZUBD6xw1c1jcO0PCsIWKEY_9O-oxYsBXKmEU_0UOv9CMCXJK0Z6czQhyPiBDSmYZR_EP_UqKA=w200-h112" width="200" /></a></div></div></div><div><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEjvbGsDtutgNGX5qvoniMAvTZbRHMRIdelFKeBFEsrcWbU11hSMf1-2OxtI5BubOEvkmJ9i7JnZRVJf9hZ6WjsowCguQiEeFl2u3k2pbSCeLtug4DCSVjueLHZBzfSgCiG8_muzK_Witc6CqYzaw1bJEvmvmhjk3vz_5mhPrmZ60ZDWaBWuguB0uCiu9A=s4032" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em; text-align: center;"><img border="0" data-original-height="2268" data-original-width="4032" height="180" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEjvbGsDtutgNGX5qvoniMAvTZbRHMRIdelFKeBFEsrcWbU11hSMf1-2OxtI5BubOEvkmJ9i7JnZRVJf9hZ6WjsowCguQiEeFl2u3k2pbSCeLtug4DCSVjueLHZBzfSgCiG8_muzK_Witc6CqYzaw1bJEvmvmhjk3vz_5mhPrmZ60ZDWaBWuguB0uCiu9A=s320" width="320" /></a></div><div></div><div><br /></div><div>This might seem insignificant, but the difference in the finished plane is worth it. Every little detail counts</div><div><br /></div><div><b style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 14.85px;">Hardware</b></div><div><div><span face="Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif" style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-size: 14.85px;">I don't like a lot of change just for the sake of change, so I'm really glad Extreme Flight has kept the same hardware package we've been using since the introduction of the EXP series. It's all tough, reliable stuff that we all know forward and backward, which makes it easy to work with. It's also nearly bullet proof, but it's nice most of us have a good supply of spares built up over the years.</span></div><div><span face="Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif" style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-size: 14.85px;"><br /></span></div><div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEiam03DxUbaWMw1h5-OMc2tgW0uCahlU8490vpNTGXEhyNhK5LMJHCUTJ89p5F7qR-RpTpqIXZeJcv7cD5I0F2kktkcCAp3MkgcCNxeELjEC0zrcd4lIOTqB4aMC4lsSTDL4y5r_y7gfWWgmYMnLOYSQUX35bj0PGXfN8Zm3QPP-zjH0VQ9JSHUEeK1wA=s4032" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="2268" data-original-width="4032" height="225" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEiam03DxUbaWMw1h5-OMc2tgW0uCahlU8490vpNTGXEhyNhK5LMJHCUTJ89p5F7qR-RpTpqIXZeJcv7cD5I0F2kktkcCAp3MkgcCNxeELjEC0zrcd4lIOTqB4aMC4lsSTDL4y5r_y7gfWWgmYMnLOYSQUX35bj0PGXfN8Zm3QPP-zjH0VQ9JSHUEeK1wA=w400-h225" width="400" /></a></div></div><div><br /></div><div>New for this plane is Extreme Flight included their excellent metal backplate elite spinner. These have been all i have used for the last 10 years and you just sort of bolt them on and forget about them. They have all come perfectly balanced, are good looking and durable.</div><div><br /></div><div><div><span style="font-size: x-large;"><div style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 14.85px; text-align: left;"><b>Building</b></div></span>The 48s are the everyman's plane, whether you are a new 3D pilot or a veteran. <span face="Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif" style="color: #333333;"><span style="background-color: white; font-size: 14.85px;">Since these are such important planes for virtually everyone, </span></span><span face="Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif" style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-size: 14.85px;">Extreme Flight's product development chief, Ben Fisher, has made a nice build-along video. Here he covers every step in real time, so you can prop your phone up on the bench and use the video as a guide. There are lots of great tricks and information in here, even if you are an experienced builder, there's still plenty to learn here. The video covers the Edge build, but most of the video applies to all of the 48s as well.</span></div><div style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 14.85px;"><br /></div><div><div style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 14.85px; text-align: center;"><b><div class="separator" style="clear: both;"><iframe allowfullscreen="" class="BLOG_video_class" height="266" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/W1PCb0wpyoM" width="320" youtube-src-id="W1PCb0wpyoM"></iframe></div></b></div></div></div></div><br />Most of this build was like a surgical procedure. Everything slid together, bolted together or glued together perfectly. I didn't have to trim or tinker with anything. I was kind of on auto pilot until I got to the cowling, and thankfully, at least for me, you still have to mount it yourself, and I accept that as a challenge to get it perfect. That, or it's my OCD kicking in.<div><div><div style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 14.85px;"><br /></div><div style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 14.85px;">If you follow the procedure in the video manual, <b>and take your time</b>, you can't get it wrong. I've always done mine a little differently, but this time I tried it Ben's way and got really good results. I'll probably keep doing it this way because you can't get it much better than this.</div></div><div><br /></div><div><b style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 14.85px;">Power System</b></div><div><span face="Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif" style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-size: 14.85px;">Once again, it's going to be the Torque 2814/Airboss 45 ESC power system. I have been using this combination in my 48" planes, again, for over a decade. Reliability and durability have been 100% dead solid perfect. There is more power than you actually need, with enough to give unlimited vertical performance, and throttle response is perfectly linear.</span><div style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 14.85px;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEiAzfkESb4uQcOUkyCEvjNTghLlQHDyTJLa99el9ROggKOgGxRI39sxA5QRTG9Hte03UXky1FCcj0yBajLy714A-v4fUEGRapYBL1fFezEQzAj1L_zSr6uOWbBAmI8Fywr6wmA6tbnrjeLPLcaNd61sn_FmncNd4LBRqdRaSTMiYnm0rB41Eu3RcV_PLw=s4032"><img border="0" data-original-height="2268" data-original-width="4032" height="225" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEiAzfkESb4uQcOUkyCEvjNTghLlQHDyTJLa99el9ROggKOgGxRI39sxA5QRTG9Hte03UXky1FCcj0yBajLy714A-v4fUEGRapYBL1fFezEQzAj1L_zSr6uOWbBAmI8Fywr6wmA6tbnrjeLPLcaNd61sn_FmncNd4LBRqdRaSTMiYnm0rB41Eu3RcV_PLw=w400-h225" width="400" /></a></div><br /><div class="separator" style="background-color: white; clear: both; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 14.85px; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 14.85px;">Like all Extreme Flight power systems, once you bolt the cowling on you can forget about the motor and ESC and simply fly it. Most of my 2814s and Airboss' are years old, but I have so much faith in them I will drop an old beat up one into a brand new plane with no worries. The Torque and Airboss ESC are the Maytag of electric motors.</div><div style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 14.85px;"><br /></div><div style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 14.85px;">I cut a small strip of balsa to use as an ESC mount. It's also a good place to put the Velcro, but it also raises the ESC up just enough that you can slide it back over the next former if you want to move it more rearward. I'm balanced according to the manual, but if I care to move the CG rearward, I can slide the ESC back a little.</div><div style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 14.85px;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEjHxAGKtdRqoqjx9HmxN4KVFTFmiQiC1lNItznsW8wPdt71j9nFDsGpr8ZYtnDmnfcrGNYvLfCSJZQVFQqvr1dFKMC7JASq0xmSRN2LqtRpLDAUyKVShcyL7j2SxMZGvzQp0sw724ea2DVVoTS44n8WQ3AlITIzHByvNcDeZWWgtI_32P1Z-WKrAgFwLg=s4032" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="2268" data-original-width="4032" height="225" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEjHxAGKtdRqoqjx9HmxN4KVFTFmiQiC1lNItznsW8wPdt71j9nFDsGpr8ZYtnDmnfcrGNYvLfCSJZQVFQqvr1dFKMC7JASq0xmSRN2LqtRpLDAUyKVShcyL7j2SxMZGvzQp0sw724ea2DVVoTS44n8WQ3AlITIzHByvNcDeZWWgtI_32P1Z-WKrAgFwLg=w400-h225" width="400" /></a></div><br /><div class="separator" style="background-color: white; clear: both; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 14.85px; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 14.85px;"><b>BEC</b></div><div style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 14.85px;">If you are running 6 volt servos, the standard Airboss will feed those just fine. We flew the V1 for roughly a decade like that. For me, though, this is such a high performance airplane I think it deserves the best of everything.</div><div style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 14.85px;"><b><br /></b>For 8 volt servos you either need a 2s lipo or an external BEC. I chose the BEC because they are not that hard to solder up, and once installed you simply forget about them. A lipo is probably better, but then you have to watch the voltage and charge it, so going with a BEC is one less thing to worry about. I have always used the Castle 10 amp BEC on all my 8 volt planes, and again, am delighted with the reliability and durability.</div><div style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 14.85px;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="background-color: white; clear: both; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 14.85px; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEje7U7bNQL6CszkpZ25pw04BYa-JEEQ8etHkHr5CW72PQ4wcfCHGB53_-I_Z3GNBTFmI8ql2bL_ka4dule9BFKJt0YfD6iIgayjv3Xfzu8sjv02qwdKiXWQ5gj5KFBn3KRN8vzb_4UQEF48/s1600/20140918_002441.jpg" style="color: #336699; margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em; text-decoration-line: none;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1200" data-original-width="1600" height="300" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEje7U7bNQL6CszkpZ25pw04BYa-JEEQ8etHkHr5CW72PQ4wcfCHGB53_-I_Z3GNBTFmI8ql2bL_ka4dule9BFKJt0YfD6iIgayjv3Xfzu8sjv02qwdKiXWQ5gj5KFBn3KRN8vzb_4UQEF48/w400-h300/20140918_002441.jpg" style="border: none; position: relative;" width="400" /></a></div><div style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 14.85px;"><br />Here you can see I solder mine up a little differently. Instead of soldering both the ESC battery leads and BEC to the deans plug, I cut back the heat shrink on the wire about halfway between and solder there. It makes putting the deans plug on much easier because you don't have to hold and solder one lead at a time to one place.</div><div style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 14.85px;"><br /></div><div style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 14.85px;">I usually mount the BEC on the fuselage side down low, but this time I followed what i did on my 48" Edge. I mounted it against the front of the landing gear block. This puts it dead center in the airflow coming in from the chin scoop. I've never had a problem overheating one before, but this is a better place for it, especially once summer gets here.</div><div class="separator" style="background-color: white; clear: both; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 14.85px; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEj1fBDR5bYDrdjVG-HPirhDaZY-9YF2g0ttrQYStCbQlFcWOgYQgu9kjyzKjj8za6F7OCde6lS_FMQo4LZDXW4hmyDBvTqd4GTXrTC63kyjyij0z46i2Xej5if9Y9NHU2uLep9fVH16NY-OYaFXzEGuU3t9unn7aIQ5WB6jwgNuCynqpc9DKK7J2RWObQ=s4032" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="2268" data-original-width="4032" height="225" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEj1fBDR5bYDrdjVG-HPirhDaZY-9YF2g0ttrQYStCbQlFcWOgYQgu9kjyzKjj8za6F7OCde6lS_FMQo4LZDXW4hmyDBvTqd4GTXrTC63kyjyij0z46i2Xej5if9Y9NHU2uLep9fVH16NY-OYaFXzEGuU3t9unn7aIQ5WB6jwgNuCynqpc9DKK7J2RWObQ=w400-h225" width="400" /></a></div><div style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 14.85px;"><br /></div></div><div><div><div><span style="font-size: x-large;"><b style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 14.85px;">SET UP</b></span><br />As always, the manual is the best place to start. My radio only has two rates, so I go to manual and use the "3D rate," and of course the low rate. I don't feel like this is a sacrifice of any kind. Maybe you can get <i>a little</i> more violence out of the plane with the insane rate, whereas the 3D rate is smooth, more</div><div>controllable and much easier to fly precisely. I'm leaning more towards making my planes less wild, smoother and more stable, and this set up does that really well. </div><div><br /></div><div>If you want to spin and tumble the plane into orbit though, the insane rate is for you. Most people find the MXS to snaps and spin fine on the 3D rate, and no one complains the plane isn't violent enough.</div><div><br /></div><div>The other important part of the setup is the low rate. A lot of people fly on high rates all the time, but they are missing out on how well these planes fly precision maneuvers like point and slow rolls. I stick to the manual here and adjust my low rate ailerons to give me three rolls in five seconds. This is extremely easy to keep up with and actually makes a great sport rate. I didn't change it much because the manual rate is extremely close, within 2% or 3%. </div><div><br /></div><div>To check the CG on the MXS, I wrap a string abound the tube and set the plane to have the nose hang down just a little. That's just a starting point, but it's very close. You never want to start off tail heavy.</div><div><br /></div></div><div style="background-color: white;"><div style="color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 14.85px;"><b>Ailerons</b></div><div style="color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 14.85px;">Here I am using the arms that came with the servos. They are the same size as Hitec arms . Using the second hole from the outside, I am getting about 33 degrees of travel. I know the manual suggests 38 or so, but I'm 68 years old and that's a little much for me to hang on to. 33 suits me just perfectly and I can fly it smoother too.</div><div style="color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 14.85px;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEhkbFBVKCCW-iiUTEXieaqcsknczHUXZv987HtLOre2i1DKktrN8qJnQx7BdfraP4guz4xk64uwh4mBHmia-Qhfvtl3h97DNrMyJGqfMl3pPVoKcK1-3ggQMtAZCrZCPOCahjqhwiwhIdXwq8Hbm6TTkVdm1S-OqW7FO_CoE5m5kHapemerY7t_zw0WBQ=s4032" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="2268" data-original-width="4032" height="225" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEhkbFBVKCCW-iiUTEXieaqcsknczHUXZv987HtLOre2i1DKktrN8qJnQx7BdfraP4guz4xk64uwh4mBHmia-Qhfvtl3h97DNrMyJGqfMl3pPVoKcK1-3ggQMtAZCrZCPOCahjqhwiwhIdXwq8Hbm6TTkVdm1S-OqW7FO_CoE5m5kHapemerY7t_zw0WBQ=w400-h225" width="400" /></a></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 14.85px; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div style="color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 14.85px;"><b>Elevator</b></div><div style="color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 14.85px;">Here I use the G10 arm extension on the standard arm. Right now I have not turned up the endpoints in my TX, and I'm at 50 degrees up elevator with down elevator maxed out. I can get as much as 72 degrees with this arm, but we're going to start off a little tamer this time. I've been using less elevator in my planes lately, so we'll try it this way. I can always turn it up if I need more.</div><div style="color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 14.85px;"><br /></div><div style="color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 14.85px;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEgvYLS782IsoILxwQjq1JrEtNv3bRwRycBCO_ocPaGVfIAjWfrW_CLulsGzgLiip7nE5P3SetuPymswSmlpsjW5g5XtN-wVPW9GtK-ee81RymfghiLaK3qGxJmKUqPwpD1njg_DAINsXPp-c_SzrxaQqXZfhoOSIovkCcxIIjwpCYqCI5mXvqQ2Pw-6vA=s4032" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="2268" data-original-width="4032" height="225" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEgvYLS782IsoILxwQjq1JrEtNv3bRwRycBCO_ocPaGVfIAjWfrW_CLulsGzgLiip7nE5P3SetuPymswSmlpsjW5g5XtN-wVPW9GtK-ee81RymfghiLaK3qGxJmKUqPwpD1njg_DAINsXPp-c_SzrxaQqXZfhoOSIovkCcxIIjwpCYqCI5mXvqQ2Pw-6vA=w400-h225" width="400" /></a></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 14.85px;"><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><b>Rudder</b></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both;"><span face="Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif" style="color: #333333; font-size: 14.85px;">Here i use a 1" arm to get the </span><span face="Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif" style="color: #333333;"><span style="font-size: 14.85px;">throw</span></span><span face="Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif" style="color: #333333; font-size: 14.85px;"> </span><span face="Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif" style="color: #333333;"><span style="font-size: 14.85px;">I</span></span><span face="Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif" style="color: #333333; font-size: 14.85px;"> </span><span face="Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif" style="color: #333333;"><span style="font-size: 14.85px;">wanted</span></span><span face="Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif" style="color: #333333; font-size: 14.85px;">. </span><span face="Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif" style="color: #333333; font-size: 14.85px;"> One thing I've done differently on my last few builds is move the ball link on the servo arm to the inside. 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text-align: center;"><span style="text-align: left;"><br /></span></div>This is just a convenient place to post pictures of my new Extreme Flight 48" MXS V2 kit Extra EXP V2. For now you can see some of the features up close and how nice the kit is, because it's really super nice. Later I'll run a build and set up article, and follow up flight report with video in a day or two.<div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEiON6BXJaFE6C-BlXNyxkFpHyldVz_lMiwk5gR217u-YfnXc9z4ynB_yT66uIyTTI979MdsKSmJon3_GaJeSEypSEAjgANst2S8Qy-_nboNqPy9_e-YipIsx9QRIJfWN4HeEa7HgnVfrYK717p8KEYT3Vu_UtHEu6S8cO9NiB2DhiwL3svgrJEtNiItmw=s4032" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="2268" data-original-width="4032" height="180" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEiON6BXJaFE6C-BlXNyxkFpHyldVz_lMiwk5gR217u-YfnXc9z4ynB_yT66uIyTTI979MdsKSmJon3_GaJeSEypSEAjgANst2S8Qy-_nboNqPy9_e-YipIsx9QRIJfWN4HeEa7HgnVfrYK717p8KEYT3Vu_UtHEu6S8cO9NiB2DhiwL3svgrJEtNiItmw=s320" width="320" /></a></div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEjwnblcdyZbW2YRqlBQCEO_XPZ-TdRknhPszCOvEfB-uWgkMLTvYyo6IaJlwQm7VtaC8xfI3CXd0HKE85T9a0D4vIz67x1lP14INUHbBboe8nUz0nTW-afaHxqqndpvWgwG9L-exmEGUOwUkAJ6au0w4y7-1RDoOCbw7ce1mAsXfIP9KaxMQKtk8BcFew=s4032" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; 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margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1152" data-original-width="2048" height="360" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjR5Uhz-xn5VYOrx97r9EbIj2kb3S_tJpPpq9quDvhhbApy_HQO3Ew-5HoK-DLgCgarlw6BOotdcRGgv_cFXnPXxZuzlCJYDA0FO_fgpzwIXcIzH5f6YR4y6ntDSiEfk2sWPiARG4CXzn6m/w640-h360/TP+Slick+580+V2+Yellow__0003.jpg" width="640" /></a></div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div>Holy cow the last few years have been brutal. There have been so many new 48"-60" Extreme Flight releases lately that it's been a tough go just to keep up. Some of this was with clean sheet brand new designs like the Velox and Gamebird, and some have been V2 versions of beloved old favorites like the 48" Extra and Edge, and 60" Edge and MXS. Also remember we just went through building, flying and reviewing the 52" Lineup, so things have been pretty crazy. When you factor in I usually built two of everything, my shop has really been hopping. <div><br /></div><div> Between building, videoing and reviewing, a lot of my old favorites haven't gotten a lot of love, and certainly not as much as they deserve. We've had a little lull in the action when it comes to new releases, so coupled with the beautiful October Florida weather, this was a good opportunity to catch up on flying, and especially with the 60" Edge V2, snag some footage.</div><div><br /></div><div><b>52" Extra EXP</b></div><div>We've had Extras for so long that they are the plane people often take for granted. We've all got one, but the latest and greatest shiny new plane is what we usually want to take out. This ends up being a mistake since the Extra flies as well as any of them. </div><div><br /></div><div><div style="text-align: center;"> <iframe allow="autoplay; fullscreen; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="360" src="https://player.vimeo.com/video/631489811?h=b8fca1a2ae" width="640"></iframe><a href="https://vimeo.com/631489811" style="text-align: center;">Extreme Flight Extra__No Title.mp4</a><span style="text-align: center;"> from </span><a href="https://vimeo.com/user714849" style="text-align: center;">Doc Austin</a><span style="text-align: center;"> on </span><a href="https://vimeo.com" style="text-align: center;">Vimeo</a><span style="text-align: center;">.</span></div><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="text-align: center;"><br /></span></div>I've been flying the 48" Extra V2 so much I kind of forgot about my 52. Finally I took it out to blow the dust off it and fell in love with it all over again.</div><div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjEnaOvZi2l0AVLKAXpT_qeXRshZzDS-GIX_roItFTEgsPGwyKZ6tYUiGP2p4ju8k_3QXHuuIG89zcA41ARqUdxhtpsdcFUbwxexbo6OPnQ1aBOtTmXa86XUdJTrfTwOYFt68FXx5kSGHS0/s2048/52+Extra+Glamor+0047.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1152" data-original-width="2048" height="360" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjEnaOvZi2l0AVLKAXpT_qeXRshZzDS-GIX_roItFTEgsPGwyKZ6tYUiGP2p4ju8k_3QXHuuIG89zcA41ARqUdxhtpsdcFUbwxexbo6OPnQ1aBOtTmXa86XUdJTrfTwOYFt68FXx5kSGHS0/w640-h360/52+Extra+Glamor+0047.jpg" width="640" /></a></div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: right;"><div style="text-align: center;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1152" data-original-width="2048" height="113" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjrLAoqCc6CAOIyxx_Bk1tqoBI6uWniKNEO5Q6Q4Pc5xIP7crFOsRibRubODMeQSlMIqUuRQyWsCNYb-A91CDbGn0fXkUSvwdJ-FNsR-XpVpOa7LwsZzhdIA8ivltcgO1_2wUHmOAoEOGGV/w200-h113/52+Extra+Glamor+0019.jpg" width="200" /><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj-7pLsrCxLNEuMBHf2lIWSHuZPnPG5xIjgaMw7xLkgRHJ-lLBr-7b0cXvfJG4cbymbKGu0j_lIQNlTuY9VH9_IXqFha57oJCRMN_MJEXM4pv6HkglgIxm-YqKx14pfSxHAWUL0Z6FANb3q/s2048/52+Extra+Glamor+0017.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1152" data-original-width="2048" height="113" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj-7pLsrCxLNEuMBHf2lIWSHuZPnPG5xIjgaMw7xLkgRHJ-lLBr-7b0cXvfJG4cbymbKGu0j_lIQNlTuY9VH9_IXqFha57oJCRMN_MJEXM4pv6HkglgIxm-YqKx14pfSxHAWUL0Z6FANb3q/w200-h113/52+Extra+Glamor+0017.jpg" width="200" /></a></div><div style="text-align: center;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: left;">Any time you go flying you learn something and hopefully get better. Some of the stuff I have been working on really came to life when I tried it with this plane. This particular plane is about four years old, and doesn't owe me me a dime. She met her demise shortly after this due to a systems failure, and I am definately going to replace her as soon as they are restocked.</div><div style="text-align: left;"><br /></div></div></div><b>52" Slick EXP</b></div><div>Here's another one I will probably never get to fly enough. It's very similar to the Extra, and while it's not quite as graceful as the Extra, it does tumble a bit better and harriers a little more solidly. To, me, this and the 52" Extra are so dead even on everything else it almost doesn't matter which one you choose. However, the Slick is way ahead on "cool factor." </div><div><br /></div><div><iframe allow="autoplay; fullscreen; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="360" src="https://player.vimeo.com/video/623948917?h=f2f618fc62" width="640"></iframe>
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<p>I have a special connection the the MXS and have always loved this plane, but the V1 was starting to look a little dated. Along with the V2 construction and the beautiful new color scheme, this is currently the nicest plane I have ever owned. Some of this assessment could be sentimental too, but clearly this is one super damm nice airplane.</p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEioA3WDyisZSkzJLc4V5Na3sU1gz2fSWBFQZARCfJLctVZ78qarE_eja_BGk40Z8zZeCyJscavi_DDP1iyqdEo1nLL4ndjQvd9NsBs0BbcVa9Y6TqmJwnSdJJASerFAxHfnFC78pf9xaWpG/s2048/60+MXS+V2__Glamor+044.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1152" data-original-width="2048" height="360" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEioA3WDyisZSkzJLc4V5Na3sU1gz2fSWBFQZARCfJLctVZ78qarE_eja_BGk40Z8zZeCyJscavi_DDP1iyqdEo1nLL4ndjQvd9NsBs0BbcVa9Y6TqmJwnSdJJASerFAxHfnFC78pf9xaWpG/w640-h360/60+MXS+V2__Glamor+044.jpg" width="640" /></a></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><div style="text-align: left;"><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhJF8uDPxCSF5zufhH6lSlJdOT63a3HiK7eehFKawtHBKN2WqguCHODCmy9JZ8-hTOE9L12gmvtJAF8Gs0aVw49_ZeD6MQ_tmAuzwV7ex1KO4L-rZv2suZM2A_j4OmOYFM58SEJZO6TN8mm/s2048/60+MXS+V2__Glamor+016.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"></a><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj1C9gTBQIgKTlbTz9IeLagOskgmc0PuQfL6N0CSyci7sBKTe7CogBJm6zsE01RBYOXZKrwEgnIYNU4Iw44BfQnWuaBRQ7vWwbpQW9UqNrF2UfwWVPs6RRMgvYGeoo6SjbEqrIzRo7V0pVg/s2048/60+MXS+V2__Glamor+019.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1152" data-original-width="2048" height="113" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj1C9gTBQIgKTlbTz9IeLagOskgmc0PuQfL6N0CSyci7sBKTe7CogBJm6zsE01RBYOXZKrwEgnIYNU4Iw44BfQnWuaBRQ7vWwbpQW9UqNrF2UfwWVPs6RRMgvYGeoo6SjbEqrIzRo7V0pVg/w200-h113/60+MXS+V2__Glamor+019.jpg" width="200" /></a><img border="0" data-original-height="1152" data-original-width="2048" height="113" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhJF8uDPxCSF5zufhH6lSlJdOT63a3HiK7eehFKawtHBKN2WqguCHODCmy9JZ8-hTOE9L12gmvtJAF8Gs0aVw49_ZeD6MQ_tmAuzwV7ex1KO4L-rZv2suZM2A_j4OmOYFM58SEJZO6TN8mm/w200-h113/60+MXS+V2__Glamor+016.jpg" width="200" /></div></div></div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgI33N8ejcvE3zkpXqBO7f571nyKYE-GT_UOOjPWq8z-Ejcxe0uxFvy_dboBEfFEo013PQ9yRfxOrlVElz6NCTLcvGv2fIEQeAPxRbKGfQpYTVeVWmgsYdlNzNqFiQrquJps21hVWekFNAa/s2048/TP_MXS+EXP__Red__018.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><br /><img border="0" data-original-height="1152" data-original-width="2048" height="360" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgI33N8ejcvE3zkpXqBO7f571nyKYE-GT_UOOjPWq8z-Ejcxe0uxFvy_dboBEfFEo013PQ9yRfxOrlVElz6NCTLcvGv2fIEQeAPxRbKGfQpYTVeVWmgsYdlNzNqFiQrquJps21hVWekFNAa/w640-h360/TP_MXS+EXP__Red__018.jpg" width="640" /></a></div><br /><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p>
</div>Doc Austinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09358924159613442642noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2245334704739395263.post-6015731915540445812021-04-07T02:29:00.011-04:002021-04-12T17:08:13.222-04:003DHS Velox Revolution__Long Term Product Evaluation<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj33KbdvYCghYFXF2CRQYug5Z5HV8VDB1nsmNPBjJZcs4CRYhC1tn1CsFBBWuzv_39L0axpeQcqrG0z8dOM_sOha2otK6pHILNHoKPN4wVUshjJCmXTq9ndhgLkKxFJObNOyLU44hdcDcUX/s2048/3DHS+52+Velox__Blue_0011.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1152" data-original-width="2048" height="360" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj33KbdvYCghYFXF2CRQYug5Z5HV8VDB1nsmNPBjJZcs4CRYhC1tn1CsFBBWuzv_39L0axpeQcqrG0z8dOM_sOha2otK6pHILNHoKPN4wVUshjJCmXTq9ndhgLkKxFJObNOyLU44hdcDcUX/w640-h360/3DHS+52+Velox__Blue_0011.jpg" width="640" /></a></div><div><br /></div><div>We're two years in, which I didn't expect. Usually when I have a plane I can lean on at 110% every second, I tear up one or two. It's just part of the game when you take such high performance stuff and try to break it. So far I've treated this plane extremely poorly and it's like a hot chick you can't run off no matter how big of a butthole you are to her. She loves you even when you're a bad man! I had a girlfriend like that. It ended badly! Of course, I do treat my real bride far better.</div><div><br /></div><div>There was one nasty moment that I dead stalled it in a death slide (which it does really well when you hit it right) and dropped it straight in on a wing tip. The impact pushed one side in a little, and cracked a few formers. I pushed it back into place, and with a few little braces and CA it's probably even stronger than when it came out of the box. There's one little boo boo on the side, but if I didn't tell you about it you'de never see it. Still, that sort of thing usually makes me crazy enough to replace a plane (blame OCD). but this one flies so exceptional there was never a thought of that. Oh, hell no. This plane is too good for that.</div><div><br /></div><div>The V2s are incredibly tough planes. Just today a friend landed a 48" Extra V2 in a tree. The wind blew it out just as we were walking up to it, and it fell a good 20 feet straight onto the spinner. Ka-blammo! It cracked the motor box top piece inside the battery compartment and broke a hinge (next time use Radio South), but he just called and he's already got it fixed. Super light but built like an anvil.</div><div><br /></div><div><b>The Great Rethink</b></div>Initially I did the Velox a disservice by titling our first article "<a href="http://docaustinextreme.blogspot.com/2019/06/52-velox-revolutionreturn-of-wild-child.html" target="_blank">3DHS Velox__Return Of The Wild Child</a>." We did that because the original was so wild, but nothing could be further from the truth on the new one. It's not wild at all. Performance is off the chart, but not wild or even close. It's a very calm and composed plane that I think would make a great entry level 3D trainer provided you have a good background in conventional aerobatics, which you need anyway before you get to 3D.<div><br /></div><div>Part of my original mischaracterization came from initially missing the set up. My radio only has two rates, so I skipped the "3D" rate and went with low and "insane." Insane is just that and not even necessary. Overkill is not usually a bad thing, but for me it was on this plane. </div><div><br /></div><div>Now if you want something completely wild that will challenge you every second, that insane rate is, well, insane.</div><div><br /></div><div>With the 3D rate the plane is so good I don't miss the insane, and two rates instead of three is one less thing for the pilot to get wrong. We had to shoot video instead of tinkering with the plane, but I knew there was a different airplane in the set up. That stability was such a strong suit on this plane I wanted to set it up to get it all. This was virtually the same lesson I learned with the Gamebird and I knew exactly what I wanted from this plane.</div><div><br /></div><div>I knew instantly on the maiden this is the most stable plane I have flown since the Gamebird, which flies essentially like a big Velox. While all of the good things of the old Velox are still there, all the rough edges have disappeared on the new one. The new one is so refined that it may as well be a completely different plane, and it really is.</div><div><br /></div><div>But we already had the answer in our hands and that's the manual. With only two rates I knew I had to have low for precision, and with the insane not what I was after, the 3D rate was the logical starting point, and eventually the end. I took the 3d rate and never looked back.</div><div><br /></div><div>That, and it's always great to get a look at Ashley. </div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjqXmU1_fNtjch0HFasT5YhMpeTPaVJYH-4NvIkSGzS6JxISPQtY-cZs4jgcC5dgm_Iq4E2V0WRHD3zr_U8HY0D-6X4azvdiS0jyD7ej_Ps02v78V78UWIB03xfe9ePMBNq78CUNw2rvx_Y/s640/3dh-52velox-b-6.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="507" data-original-width="640" height="508" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjqXmU1_fNtjch0HFasT5YhMpeTPaVJYH-4NvIkSGzS6JxISPQtY-cZs4jgcC5dgm_Iq4E2V0WRHD3zr_U8HY0D-6X4azvdiS0jyD7ej_Ps02v78V78UWIB03xfe9ePMBNq78CUNw2rvx_Y/w640-h508/3dh-52velox-b-6.jpg" width="640" /></a></div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgo-TQyfZbdUXdX4GOHguvDEAxalOn_nxvhTCoGIHgn_FGVoCY-Rvm5adW2OkHAop6Ptr7880Vc1j8vFx-ZvkBdjXIkpFzC4CyH_RaZxauw36MIpbm-iHFaQOvyT6XQ5IoCQFHqm1T8-mt_/s2048/Velox+Glamor__Blue__0011.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1152" data-original-width="2048" height="225" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgo-TQyfZbdUXdX4GOHguvDEAxalOn_nxvhTCoGIHgn_FGVoCY-Rvm5adW2OkHAop6Ptr7880Vc1j8vFx-ZvkBdjXIkpFzC4CyH_RaZxauw36MIpbm-iHFaQOvyT6XQ5IoCQFHqm1T8-mt_/w400-h225/Velox+Glamor__Blue__0011.jpg" width="400" /></a></div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgkIB0VE_RpBciQjCxwe1jZHN_RC7YuFFqPx9mCE3p_5OtCl5zRZkJ7it28FaXiqccUSMcDXbyJpWmxRa6vn2vaYTr6k-TpdGyn5AagtpcCnSo92q_Z5w0E_4RPD7f7H_y3D5yQKhN_UFWe/s2048/Velox+Glamor__Blue__0039.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1152" data-original-width="2048" height="113" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgkIB0VE_RpBciQjCxwe1jZHN_RC7YuFFqPx9mCE3p_5OtCl5zRZkJ7it28FaXiqccUSMcDXbyJpWmxRa6vn2vaYTr6k-TpdGyn5AagtpcCnSo92q_Z5w0E_4RPD7f7H_y3D5yQKhN_UFWe/w200-h113/Velox+Glamor__Blue__0039.jpg" width="200" /></a><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjy_c29gp-7ykA9HrOytSvU4CNbr82EfsD-irzdxA2o3_HvigqqdyRLUph9PGEtSSCcyOAkI9RgcYvSJdPciSNSMw4hX4dGHDVSAhrVt6crfXz7MhhPoe3vXQmMJyUh3F7SydfcaI3FCq78/s2048/Velox+Glamor__Blue__0011.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1152" data-original-width="2048" height="113" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjy_c29gp-7ykA9HrOytSvU4CNbr82EfsD-irzdxA2o3_HvigqqdyRLUph9PGEtSSCcyOAkI9RgcYvSJdPciSNSMw4hX4dGHDVSAhrVt6crfXz7MhhPoe3vXQmMJyUh3F7SydfcaI3FCq78/w200-h113/Velox+Glamor__Blue__0011.jpg" width="200" /></a></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">And it's always a good time to make fun of Ken.</div></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"><tbody><tr><td style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjLHyN9exZ_6xR-NLOQnDvVKNPE_uq-bd4WmMtNa7JucyCqxox0fprDCMfZTjlpkQxaTBp-nDehYCNtSq8K5GuOhxCkXVyrJH_tfBn_sTS6TYY025ngAaGKaOmBPlkSr9OL0wWyKUWomO-l/s2048/Velox+Glamor__Blue__0012.jpg" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1152" data-original-width="2048" height="226" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjLHyN9exZ_6xR-NLOQnDvVKNPE_uq-bd4WmMtNa7JucyCqxox0fprDCMfZTjlpkQxaTBp-nDehYCNtSq8K5GuOhxCkXVyrJH_tfBn_sTS6TYY025ngAaGKaOmBPlkSr9OL0wWyKUWomO-l/w400-h226/Velox+Glamor__Blue__0012.jpg" width="400" /></a></td></tr><tr><td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"></td></tr></tbody></table></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div><div>Which means we start from scratch and judge it by it's considerable merit instead of what it used to be. Oh, the old one was great, but you had better know what you were doing with one. Now the new Velox is one that you don't need to be really good to handle proficiently. I'de say a competent sport pilot can pick one up and fly it on low rates just like he would a regular old T28 or something, but the performance is nearly as good as the original just by flipping to high rates, and I believe from there it would be supremely awesome from basic 3D training, right up to anything you can throw at it.</div><div><br /></div><div>Now it's so easy to push hard that you really need to check a little bit of your confidence because you will feel invincible. Sure it performs like a monster, but when you calm things down planes don't get any easier or more friendly to fly. </div></div><div><br /></div><div>We're kind of out of order here, but we don't have today's video cooked just yet. Here's the first flight on first day out with the 3D rate. You can see the plane was so much improved that my confidence in it was just short of magical. The conditions were really horrible with blasting wind gust and high wind the rest of the time, but the Velox is so stable it remained completely unfazed. </div><div><br /></div><div>This might just be one of my own top two or three videos, just because it was the beginning of a great romance between the Velox and me. I got away with some stuff I have never tried before and never came close to a mishap, even pushing past my own limits and in horrible conditions. That tells you right there how exceptional this plane is. Past the limit in bad conditions and she stayed right with me.</div><div><br /></div>
<div style="text-align: center;"><iframe allow="autoplay; fullscreen; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="360" src="https://player.vimeo.com/video/365650216" width="640"></iframe></div><p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://vimeo.com/365650216">3DHS Velox__Doc Austin's Day Off</a> from <a href="https://vimeo.com/user714849">Doc Austin</a> on <a href="https://vimeo.com">Vimeo</a>.</p><p style="text-align: left;">I'm going to keep writing, but a little later in this article we will have today's video where I fly it around like a normal person and show you the stupid crazy stability and ease of flight. The Velox' laid back nature when flying it easy is simply astonishing.</p><p style="text-align: left;">It is worth nothing that today everyone dropped what they were doing and lined up along the fence whenever the Velox went up. We were doing something a little different and I think they were all shocked that such a high performance aircraft would fly in such a gentle manner. Either way, everything else aside, the Velox draws a big crowd just because it's so cool and badass looking. I've taken it to an event and I got lots of positive comments about it. I've also let a few people fly it and they now have their own. The flying doesn't lie.</p><b>Set Up</b><div>No secrets here other than go with the manual. I have found that the "insane" super high rate is not necessary nor even desirable unless you just want to tumble the thing into orbit. It's too nice of a plane for that anyway, but going to the middle "3D" rate is more than good enough for anything you want to try with it. It's much smoother and easier to handle with the 3D rate. My TX only has two rates anyway, so I go with the low rate and 3D rate from the manual and it's absolutely perfect.</div><div><br /></div><div>I do deviate a little by setting my low aileron rate to three rolls in five seconds at full speed. This is fast enough that the plane doesn't have time to drop much when you are waiting for it to come around, but slow enough any sport pilot can easily keep up with it. This would even make a superb dedicated sport plane for those who want a great flying, cool looking sport plane, and the option is always there to flip to high and start a new adventure.</div><div><br /></div><div>The big difference is this is a short coupled plane, which generally means it's very responsive to pitch input. As such you only need about 45 degrees of elevator. I'm at 50, but would have to make a mechanical change to drop to 45. I'm so happy with the plane I'm leaving it alone, but shoot for 45 and 50 is still really solid. Like this it responds like most of the other Extreme Flight planes, but it does seem a bit more locked in on pitch, which I simply can't explain. This plane simply should not be this good, but after two years with it, I still never get enough.</div><div><br /></div><div>To summarize, I run the low rate from the manual with the ailerons turned down 3 or 4%, and the 3D rate word for word from the manual, except, that is, the extra 5 degrees I am too lazy to take out of the elevator. As far as the aileron low rate, you want three rolls in five seconds at full speed. That's fast enough that the plane won't drop much as it's coming around, and slow enough that you can keep up with it...essentially just right. You can jam the ailerons over and with a tiny touch of down and up can crank off three rolls like they are on a string. It will make you look good.</div><div><br /></div><div>Remember, the manual is always the best place to start, and unless you need something way different from the rest of us, you'll probably never change it.</div><div><br /></div><div>You can see my set up photos and learn about the plane in general on <a href="http://docaustinextreme.blogspot.com/2019/06/52-velox-revolutionreturn-of-wild-child.html">52" Velox Revolution__Return Of The Wild Child</a></div><div><br /></div><div><b>Exemplary Harrier</b></div><div>Here's the real key to any good plane, and especially one used for training. Harrier skills are where it all begins, starting by mastering the elevator drop, and then with a little power moving it forward it becomes a harrier. Once you get to where you can nearly set it down in an elevator or harrier landing, from there you just pull the nose up and your hover will be nearly there.</div><div><br /></div><div>Granted, not easy for the new guys, but the more you practice the easier it gets, and becomes so much fun you won't want to do anything else. It also helps to do routine harrier practice every time out, but I don't mind anything that makes me fly better, especially if it's fun to do anyway.</div><div><br /></div><div>But this is the Velox' turf we are on here. I haven't flown anything that has such a strong, smooth, locked in harrier (except the Gamebird). Most people would tell you Edge has the advantage here, but the overall character and 99% of the Edge's harrier manners is still a jolly solid plane.</div><div><br /></div><div>This is why I think it would make a good first 3D plane. It may not exactly be a true 3D trainer, but I fly it like that. In the old days I learned on a 3DHS Extra SHP. That was the most happy-go-lucky thing I have ever flown, and I regard the new Velox as my Hyper SHP. Still happy, still go lucky, but with blinding performance.</div><div><br /></div><div>It's just nothing but solid and reassuring. The reason I suggest you be a competent sport pilot is because it is still an very agile plane, and you tame that by using the expo numbers, again, straight from the manual, which is gold. Maybe the Edge would be a little better, maybe not, but the Velox pegs the cool scale.</div><div><br /></div><div>Some of this comes from running a big 15" prop because holding a little power on blows enough air over the plane to not only keep it up in the air, but also feeds the control surfaces and keeps you in control. Post stall manners are otherworldly, and that's how you are going to be able to describe your confidence after you have a few flights on one.</div><div><br /></div><div><b>Smooth Precision</b></div><div>Precision really was the big surprise because for long, sleek lines you want a long plane. The Velox is short coupled, so conventional wisdom is that it would suffer in big sky stuff. It doesn't Not at all. I'de say if it gives up anything at all to a longer plane like the Extra, it's a percent or two and not worth worrying about. In the end, maybe there was a little, but you get used to the plane, adapt and fly it as precisely as you would an Extra. </div><div><br /></div><div>The Velox really does absolutely everything exceptional well and cleanly.</div><div><br /></div><div>Here's today's junket of video. In the first we just putter around and relax with the plane. I would guess I had backed off to about 60% of balls out, but that allowed me to hit my marks better and just have some fun.</div><div><br /></div><div><div style="text-align: center;"><iframe allow="autoplay; fullscreen; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="360" src="https://player.vimeo.com/video/533811423" width="640"></iframe></div><p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://vimeo.com/533811423">3D Hoby Shop Velox_Too Much Fun.mp4</a> from <a href="https://vimeo.com/user714849">Doc Austin</a> on <a href="https://vimeo.com">Vimeo</a>.</p><p style="text-align: left;">There's actually a lot to be said for backing off on the intensity to get a good, smooth flight. The plane is so stable I can still fly hard and not have much trouble, but backing off a little gives you a more composed presentation. If you're trying to showcase a plane's stability and precision this is a pretty good technique. When you start pushing really hard it's easy to get sloppy, either from adrenalin or just skirting your own personal limit. That's ok on an agility video because crazed flying is always fun to watch too.</p><p style="text-align: left;">Today was a good lesson on backing off and giving a more balanced flight. I'm not going to abandon the wild stuff, but I will be incorporating more sedate flying that the new guys won't be afraid to try, and that's who we want to help most anyway.</p><p style="text-align: left;">Here we go a little off script, and I fly the plane really hard, though with a bit more margin, and taking the time to set everything up better, and manage the flow. I just slowed it down a little to take my time and get it right. I blow a couple of exits, but the wind was really howling, and maybe I relaxed too much and got sloppy. In general I think it is a different style and looks better in it's own way. It's a different look from all out gonzo, but if it makes the presentation look better and it's more fun, this is more the way I'm going to fly this plane.</p><b><div style="text-align: center;"><b><iframe allow="autoplay; fullscreen; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="360" src="https://player.vimeo.com/video/533843233" width="640"></iframe></b></div>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://vimeo.com/533843233">3D Hoby Shop Velox_Too Much Fun 002.mp4</a> from <a href="https://vimeo.com/user714849">Doc Austin</a> on <a href="https://vimeo.com">Vimeo</a>.</p>
The new Zonker</b></div><div>What else are you going to call a plane that looks like it's on fire when it goes by? I couldn't choose, so I got both. As of now, this plane has only five flights on it. The blue might be getting all the love, but the yellow s going to stay pristine and perfectly dialed in for when I need it.</div><div><br /></div><div> The video here is a little dark, but the sunset was cool and I found a beautiful soundtrack for it. It's darker than it looks. I was fighting to see the plane, but the yellow really helped here. </div><div><br /></div><div> <iframe allow="autoplay; fullscreen; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="360" src="https://player.vimeo.com/video/366095608" width="640"></iframe></div><div><p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://vimeo.com/366095608">3DHS Velox__3DHS Velox__Doc Austin's Day Off 4</a> from <a href="https://vimeo.com/user714849">Doc Austin</a> on <a href="https://vimeo.com">Vimeo</a>.</p><p style="text-align: left;"><b>Let's be clear here about one thing. This is a 100% blood and guts old time rock and roll 3DHS fly low plane all the way. It may be a Velox, but it's character and soul has the deep running roots of the original Extra SHP, and especially the SR. Most of us grew up flying those planes, and in honesty, they made me into a pilot.</b></p><p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiQjGl479jsX98B5RFzPiQva65RHetfdu7ks63FJy6W-nfwgFx7qX9vWmytq1mhqR9Zp0q4OaPvQb8oxZRks_mp1CATg89eCJ7pAWxbnNuQ_CWGCoy4mSMnZIHxy1WRXecd99sa8mut3i3n/s2048/Velox+Glamor__Yellow__001.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1152" data-original-width="2048" height="225" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiQjGl479jsX98B5RFzPiQva65RHetfdu7ks63FJy6W-nfwgFx7qX9vWmytq1mhqR9Zp0q4OaPvQb8oxZRks_mp1CATg89eCJ7pAWxbnNuQ_CWGCoy4mSMnZIHxy1WRXecd99sa8mut3i3n/w400-h225/Velox+Glamor__Yellow__001.jpg" width="400" /></a></p><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiB8QbcS29jTO91hu07GNL2Fl3s5CSaqUD_KN2Jj44lNG1GCa5VOVK1Zze7BJhFC9lmGpUEmlUBzHvcxs7hFvuWaMA0GRFS20rXw6DU_ilegE1leg2p8seAy2N_gviW4S78qr_zZsGdchnP/s2048/Velox+Glamor__Yellow__031.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1152" data-original-width="2048" height="113" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiB8QbcS29jTO91hu07GNL2Fl3s5CSaqUD_KN2Jj44lNG1GCa5VOVK1Zze7BJhFC9lmGpUEmlUBzHvcxs7hFvuWaMA0GRFS20rXw6DU_ilegE1leg2p8seAy2N_gviW4S78qr_zZsGdchnP/w200-h113/Velox+Glamor__Yellow__031.jpg" width="200" /></a><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhhcDZAQH6v0-CobEuV91OQOcHAhDX1onzOHxLS7jW2OJQl7m3pHKOSmQCM47vL-BF-BjnVSJF1dTo1EFy62sR4IpTChKyjh7Nht8xN0tllVOUh863e8LUvDS-HC30D47zss0JE98J591E_/s2048/Velox+Glamor__Yellow__036.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1152" data-original-width="2048" height="113" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhhcDZAQH6v0-CobEuV91OQOcHAhDX1onzOHxLS7jW2OJQl7m3pHKOSmQCM47vL-BF-BjnVSJF1dTo1EFy62sR4IpTChKyjh7Nht8xN0tllVOUh863e8LUvDS-HC30D47zss0JE98J591E_/w200-h113/Velox+Glamor__Yellow__036.jpg" width="200" /></a></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhOXAdsrd7WcODsVF5ZewgQmeG0wtSIzIjfY4Z6N9Xxx0-cVpkvSihjPW3FdK0c7ZIcW4DkrtO_FNl0aII4K9SVtAXEItM3JOD4E4tnT9K-dQUqPFVVvcDWFA1bpesil8B2burjPI2k63Li/" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img alt="" data-original-height="112" data-original-width="200" height="224" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhOXAdsrd7WcODsVF5ZewgQmeG0wtSIzIjfY4Z6N9Xxx0-cVpkvSihjPW3FdK0c7ZIcW4DkrtO_FNl0aII4K9SVtAXEItM3JOD4E4tnT9K-dQUqPFVVvcDWFA1bpesil8B2burjPI2k63Li/w400-h224/image.png" width="400" /></a></div></div><p>From here how do you summarize a plane that defies the conventional wisdom that you have to sacrifice something to get something? OK, maybe the Velox gives up a percent or two to the Extra in grace, and maybe the Edge is a percent easier and more stable, but it's so close any intermediate pilot can make up that difference after a flight or two. The Velox does everything sparklingly well, and it's performance bias, while a little different, rivals the Extra for being the best rounded plane in the lineup.</p><p><b>Finally</b> a note of thanks to Ben Fisher for his patience and guidance from the early years. I didn't know jack about set up, but he brought me along and many, many of the things I instinctually applied on this project comes directly from what I learned from him. He designs a pretty mean plane too.</p><p>That, and the Boss rocks.</p><p>Finally, and this time for real, for cell users YouTube seems to work better for cell phones or slower connections, so we will give it a try. For this video, you will want to crank the sound.</p><p><span style="text-align: center;"> </span><iframe allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="409" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/l3dPRWpAjz8" title="YouTube video player" width="727"></iframe><span style="text-align: center;">
. </span></p><p><img border="0" data-original-height="1152" data-original-width="2048" height="360" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi7Fl0TZNY0DpJ6kLbiuGV_Sn-nZEEW_Vg9FV45wzVL38mzXuXhyhfZnJAUlW59eni3EyGnSlXNKt95O8rVK1iBpQ32ByoBwV9FWEAgLZzLd_A4Bkl8Ya8hoM2mXxAqzuaC4gzoFuwpzm78/w640-h360/3DHS+Velox+Yellow+021.jpg" width="640" /></p></div><br /><div><br /></div>Doc Austinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09358924159613442642noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2245334704739395263.post-71218967299909700412021-04-02T15:31:00.011-04:002022-02-05T11:24:21.012-05:00Setting up an Aura for sport 3D<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiE-uqY9ifPcXEArENlFlN-jLbISV5f5hfPHyh5sMwZS-G3X1OpPJRX2tsLG1W7VTNHt-MufpaJgAewtwmBDUw583QZ0wf6aAi29cPFvuI00VxZdbYdxM6FwPxY7KBAC0GfKNFQxQBYDfGa/s2048/+3DHS+Velox+Yellow+001.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1152" data-original-width="2048" height="360" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiE-uqY9ifPcXEArENlFlN-jLbISV5f5hfPHyh5sMwZS-G3X1OpPJRX2tsLG1W7VTNHt-MufpaJgAewtwmBDUw583QZ0wf6aAi29cPFvuI00VxZdbYdxM6FwPxY7KBAC0GfKNFQxQBYDfGa/w640-h360/+3DHS+Velox+Yellow+001.jpg" width="640" /></a></div><br /><p>Electronic Stability Systems (ESS) are becoming less of a novelty and more of just a piece equipment that allows you to get the most out of the airplane. I run Auras in everything I own, simply because the planes fly better and I crash less. Every Aura I own has paid for itself over and over, so to me this makes them essential. You don't actually need one, but if you fly in a lot of wind or are not a top level professional pilot, you'll get better results with one.</p><p>Generally an ESS just stabilizes the plane. A good system can level the playing field between super stable planes and ones that sacrifice a little stability to get agility. For example, a 48" MXS is a great little plane, but it's so agile you have better know what you are doing if you're going to hammer it hard. This kind of goes away with a stability system because that plane becomes an utter pussycat without giving up any agility. On that plane the transformation was mind blowing. </p><p>One odd thing I discovered is that as you go smaller, the ESS makes a bigger difference. On 60" planes the ESS makes the plane smoother and, of course, more stable, but on a 52" the difference is very, very noticeable. On a 48" it's pure utter magic on a biblical scale. My first ESS was on a 52" and I fell in love with it immediately, but on a 48" it was like flipping a light switch. Conversely, on a 74" or 92, the effects are more subtle.</p><p>So, the smaller you go, the more improvement you get, to the point size becomes largely irrelevant, at least from a stability standpoint. The beauty here is that on a small plane you get big plane stability without giving up any of the smaller plane's agility.</p><p><b>Disclaimers</b><br /> First we have to get the disclaimers out of the way. People often want my config file, but that is problematic unless you fly Futaba. Also, I can't put myself in a position of liability, so I am loathe to share them. My formula is so simple you won't have much trouble anyway.</p><p>However, my formula for gains and stick priorities work on every system I have tried, so that's what we will focus on.<br /></p><p>I fly 48" to 60" planes exclusively, so if you are flying something bigger you might be able to up the gains a little and get away with it. I've tried this formula on friends 74" and 104" plane with good results, but I won't have a definitive formula for bigger planes until I have my own to tinker with, or just a lot of time experimenting with someone else's expensive toy. You don't keep your friends if you crash a lot of their planes, and volunteers are kind of rare, so this could be awhile!</p><p>No report is complete without a smokin' video. Here we combined the Velox' smooth precision with nice weather and a great anthem. Make sure you <b><i>crank it up!</i></b></p><p style="text-align: center;">
<iframe allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="409" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/l3dPRWpAjz8" title="YouTube video player" width="727"></iframe> </p><p><b>MY CONFIG</b><br />When you go into the Aura config tool, look for file/new Aura Config file Wizard. From there, choose "custom airframe" and the "generic 3D" template. For most people that's a great place to start and you might just be happy with it the way it is.</p><div><br /></div><div><div>However, be aware that at high speed and high mode (gain) the plane will shake itself into orbit and pieces will probably start blowing off. If you are good at switch flipping and remember which mode you are on, this won't give you a problem, and it works for most people.</div><div><p>I go a slightly different route in separating my rates, expo and mixes from the Aura and run those in the TX. That way those are independent from the Aura and work like they normally do. Then I run only an off/high/high Aura setting. Off is off, and the two highs are identical. I trim the plane, turn the gyro on and never think about the Aura ever again. Essentially, we fly the plane just like we always have with a choice of rates on your dual/triple rate switch, and that's it. The gyro gains and stick priorities are the same all the time, and I'm too busy flying the plane to worry about it. It's just one less thing for the pilot to get wrong, and this is especially important for the new guys who are struggling with everything else. </p><p>Simplicity counts.</p><p>Get the Aura wired up and everything working. Then you can change servo direction and sub trims in the Aura. If you can get that far, the rest is cake.</p><b>GAINS</b><div>Gains are basically the amount of assist you ask from the gyro. Different people want different things, but you do have to be careful not to run too much.</div><div><br /><div>There's a lot to consider here, but we're going to keep it simple. If you run too much gain at speed you get into gyro shake. This looks almost exactly like you would expect from high speed flutter, and it can be catastrophic. If nothing else it can be so violent you lose control and bury the plane, while parts blow off, that is.</div><div><br /></div><div>You also want to be wary of getting the gains working the right direction, There are clear directions on this in the manual, but in general, if you drop the nose the gyro should add up elevator, raise a wing and that aileron will go up. Yaw is a little more difficult to check because it's visually difficult, but yaw the plane one way and the rudder should go the opposite way. Again, get this right the first time unless you enjoy tearing up a good plane.</div><div><br /></div><div>On all of my Extreme Flight planes, this is usually not a problem. On the set up page there is a picture of the gyro in the plane in the proper orientation for most Extreme Flight planes, so start with that and everything should be golden, However, make sure you check gyro direction over and over.</div><div><br /></div><div>Backwards gains is fatal <i>every single time</i>. I think it's even worse than a reversed control. <b>Therefore, the #1 rule for any new installation or after any gyro adjustment is trim the plane with the gyro off, and turn it on with plenty of altitude.</b> You might think you can catch it, but a reversed gain puts the plane in the ground really fast, so probably 200-300' is a good place to start. If the plane is whack, turn the gyro off, land and correct. It's important you put your gyro mode switch where you can find it fast. First time out you may want to have a spotter who can do it for you.</div><div><br /></div><div>Don't mess around with this. I've tested a few planes with the gains backwards (before I knew much about gyros) and it's the quickest way to trash a plane I can think of. Fortunately I knew where the switch was and turned it off in time to save the plane, but it was always close. After a few installations you know what to look for and it's almost as natural as checking control directions.</div><div><br /></div><div>If you absolutely have to have a high gyro rate for 3D, the one in the config tool is fine as long as you don't blast off and start flying fast. The high mode gain is not that much higher than what I use full time, so if there's a big benefit, that's outweighed by keeping it all simple.</div><div><br /></div><div>As such, on all my planes I run the gains of both of my high/high modes the same at 10. This is good and safe and I've never had one shake like this. If you want that last 1% or 2%, you can experiment on your own, but I prefer the simplicity of turning it on and letting it work it's magic in the background where I don't have to think about that instead of flying the plane.</div><div><br /></div><div><b>STICK PRIORITIES</b></div><div>This is either complex or simple, and I only understand it enough to know what I like. Stick priorities adjust how far out in the stick movement the gyro assists you, or when the gyro lets go and gives you no assist. The low mode in the generic 3D template is 40 ailerons/25 elevator/100 rudder. This works so well that I run that full time on both my high/high modes, though I recently dropped the rudder to 40 so pop tops would be better. On the "generic 3D" template, high mode stick priorities are 100/100/100, which gives you a marvelously stable plane that's useless in tumbles and pop tops. It's great for 3D. but to me it's another complication and my 40/25/40 is still plenty of assist.</div><div><br /></div><div>So reviewing, it's:</div><div><br /></div><div style="text-align: center;"><b>Gains</b></div><div style="text-align: center;">Ailerons 10</div><div style="text-align: center;">Elevator 10</div><div style="text-align: center;">Rudder 10</div><div style="text-align: center;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: center;"><b>Stick Priority</b></div><div style="text-align: center;">Ailerons 40</div><div style="text-align: center;">Elevator 25</div><div style="text-align: center;">Rudder 40</div><div style="text-align: center;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: center;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: left;">Most guys are pretty tech savvy, and all they need are the gains and stick priorities, but for the new guys, try to keep it simple.</div><div><br /></div><div><b>What It Looks Like</b></div><div>First, you have to go into the TX and assign your gear channel to a three position switch or the gyro part won't work. I like the top switch on the left side, but put it wherever you are comfortable with and can find easily. If you ever have to turn it off, you've got to be able to find it quickly.</div><div><br /></div><div>We will get into the rest of the TX programming a little later. You can either leave all of that in the Aura and it works fine, but to keep it simple, I do it my way, and I think this works best for the new guys.</div><div><b><br /></b></div><div>Let's start with the <b>set up page</b>. Most things here are self explanatory except the on/off switches. Here I turn every thing off. The quick bind and quick trim features don't apply to Futaba, so I turned then off, but they are useful for Spectrum. Now all of my rates and expos are done in the TX like usual, so follow the plane's manual here.</div><div><br /></div><div>One benefit here is you don't need to take a laptop to the field for simple adjustments. You program it at home, but you can still change rates, and expo in the TX instead of going home. I finally got a lap top so I could work the sub trims and such, but most everything else can be handled in the TX. For changing gains and stick priorities, you will still need a computer, but we already have those figured out.</div><div><br /></div><div>Here's what it looks like. </div><div style="text-align: center;"><b><span style="color: red;">Click to Enlarge For All Photos</span></b></div><div style="text-align: center;"><b><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiYRDpdMnv9QNoD1hDeCBM5F_cKl1dUkQVcUoCjXX1F6Pe7w7D4XvE2YHacy6vpEiwDONotD91aLYi-vokus9L68ujqB0QlDhhjszpHAIg8CmffTNTrX9f-W64SCJ3DqIxAqxYXj7Sntfq-/s1919/Snip+001.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1038" data-original-width="1919" height="346" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiYRDpdMnv9QNoD1hDeCBM5F_cKl1dUkQVcUoCjXX1F6Pe7w7D4XvE2YHacy6vpEiwDONotD91aLYi-vokus9L68ujqB0QlDhhjszpHAIg8CmffTNTrX9f-W64SCJ3DqIxAqxYXj7Sntfq-/w640-h346/Snip+001.jpg" width="640" /></a></div></b></div><div style="text-align: center;"><br /></div><div>Now we go to the mixing page, but it comes turned off, so if you are using my set up, leave it alone, but check it to be sure.</div><div><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhaYqk0sRZKWQdmj3TInylp0HTS6JlkIKtiPTmLd9eussUkDosIEnr_nuPqwvjE-yKpirmtUJ9Fhq1WRrAtBlSg8jM0CNN20oe0hyphenhypheneIK0dxzwvDGRZug8Y6-iQgtaLeqAIh-7LhbF0EPoHS/s1919/Snip+002.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1075" data-original-width="1919" height="358" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhaYqk0sRZKWQdmj3TInylp0HTS6JlkIKtiPTmLd9eussUkDosIEnr_nuPqwvjE-yKpirmtUJ9Fhq1WRrAtBlSg8jM0CNN20oe0hyphenhypheneIK0dxzwvDGRZug8Y6-iQgtaLeqAIh-7LhbF0EPoHS/w640-h358/Snip+002.jpg" width="640" /></a></div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div>Now we get into setting up your gains and stick priorities in the "control mode" tab, and you can see those below. This is the "low" mode.</div><div><br /></div><div>As far as the bounce back adjustments, they are already turned off, so I just leave them alone. Feel free to play with them if you want to tinker, but leaving it off is just one more thing that simplifies everything.</div><div><br /></div><div>You can see all the gains are 10 on all surfaces. You can tinker for that last 1% or 2%, but I prefer the safety margin of the 10 gain. Around 12 or so you get into shake and it's just not worth risking that. I fly really fast, and coming out of hard dives, and shake here would be terminal. Also notice here the stick priorities are at 40a/25e/40r.</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEggOnofH3dfeLVN_FbtFPFiypH0hDGGHXBfkqtE59_zefS1-MInrKxa_NpvGWsZ3ZOmN3_2CIJlXUXc2mZaYYCrCGG1twqyb98ETzokJA6EfaE9GxR8I8q7jC0A7hcK8j4exNZf5adBxLZr/s1918/Snip+003.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1076" data-original-width="1918" height="360" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEggOnofH3dfeLVN_FbtFPFiypH0hDGGHXBfkqtE59_zefS1-MInrKxa_NpvGWsZ3ZOmN3_2CIJlXUXc2mZaYYCrCGG1twqyb98ETzokJA6EfaE9GxR8I8q7jC0A7hcK8j4exNZf5adBxLZr/w640-h360/Snip+003.jpg" width="640" /></a></div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div>Now we get into a bit of an anomaly. There are only three modes, but four pages. The mid rate shows up, but it simply does not exist. When you go into flight mode (which I use to check everything), it's just not there, and it won't show up when you start flipping switches either. I have no explanation other than it's there if you choose 4 modes on the setup page, but the default is three. I usually set this page to be the same as my high/high settings just to be sure, but for the most part you can ignore the medium mode.<br /><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgYNbRSrl5zR2rj5fFn4BKhJc-3EWzMIpaRbWHVU1LGGnDnl7Zii0cINZvKx3G50BS0slxVl9I4W__8xOkXFwJkF7K_7MMz04l1iS7z5o3NwsIapjZmD_muHmRe1ohRm_Ra_pzZcY9mwMOA/s1917/Snip+004.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1038" data-original-width="1917" height="346" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgYNbRSrl5zR2rj5fFn4BKhJc-3EWzMIpaRbWHVU1LGGnDnl7Zii0cINZvKx3G50BS0slxVl9I4W__8xOkXFwJkF7K_7MMz04l1iS7z5o3NwsIapjZmD_muHmRe1ohRm_Ra_pzZcY9mwMOA/w640-h346/Snip+004.jpg" width="640" /></a></div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div>Finally there is high mode, which is identical to my low mode.</div><div> <div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgS6BKeLQSGsahFAHOMF7jCFoqsxCUVriePwxA7NoIaf-4_XSaw7CG4gROi_NWRTn4W675R3SCrxs_ZlACk9oS52hzfkf-2tqOe88ecMzWHQYwJW9sTXizQ6Qbt7C_SZJeJ5qoEDERSgVn2/s1915/Snip+005.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1004" data-original-width="1915" height="336" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgS6BKeLQSGsahFAHOMF7jCFoqsxCUVriePwxA7NoIaf-4_XSaw7CG4gROi_NWRTn4W675R3SCrxs_ZlACk9oS52hzfkf-2tqOe88ecMzWHQYwJW9sTXizQ6Qbt7C_SZJeJ5qoEDERSgVn2/w640-h336/Snip+005.jpg" width="640" /></a></div><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div>You will find your end point and sub trim adjustments as well as servo reversing on the servo ports page.</div><div><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh7FR_L4HATWRigE-bF6vePsNoRgrTKujBjhwEuYn28kesvKvvLs2mCEnrTIvASsmmgcpueBeDdHLRs_bgKGfXsU0Una2JUKxcEdVnJG6lVA3NJNU3wmWPjT_bOpXkUVRaQab8c2wiaj6JO/s1917/Snip+006.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1037" data-original-width="1917" height="346" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh7FR_L4HATWRigE-bF6vePsNoRgrTKujBjhwEuYn28kesvKvvLs2mCEnrTIvASsmmgcpueBeDdHLRs_bgKGfXsU0Una2JUKxcEdVnJG6lVA3NJNU3wmWPjT_bOpXkUVRaQab8c2wiaj6JO/w640-h346/Snip+006.jpg" width="640" /></a></div><br /><div>Basically, there were a few things I didn't know what they were, so I left the rest of it alone!<br /><div><br /></div><div><br /></div><div><b>TX Programming</b></div><div>From there, assuming you already set your control directions and sub trim in the Aura, you're done, with the Aura anyway. </div><div><br /></div><div>Mostly, programming the TX is like you are used to, except you set your end points to 125%. If you need more, or a fine adjustment, you can use the Aura end points (on the servo ports page). Also, set your sub trims at Zero and adjust those in the Aura.</div><div><br /></div><div>If you turned off the Aura rates, mixing and expos in the Aura, now you program the TX as the plane's manual suggests and tune from there.</div><div><br /></div><div>I tried to cover as much as Ii could without being overwhelming. I hope this helps, but if you need more I suggest you try the <a href="https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?1358455-Extreme-Flight-EXP-Owner-s-Thread">Extreme Flight EXP Owners Thread</a> on RC Groups.</div><div><br /></div><div>Also thanks to Rocky at Flex Innovations for great Aura tech support.</div><div><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg3JcbNWg-u8OSjQLeEtR3A9fNcKpJmzBY9p4zNrt14TF_7h-DCwstc5JbaZdzglOPcy_5cxqXjqHlMS7x9bOzSFoIe4IQ2laJg8pwnAg5oLZy4c6FvKV1E2_KcH7uVngSjhEEdO3RuzNUa/s2048/60+MXS+V2+Video+Artwork__002.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1152" data-original-width="2048" height="225" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg3JcbNWg-u8OSjQLeEtR3A9fNcKpJmzBY9p4zNrt14TF_7h-DCwstc5JbaZdzglOPcy_5cxqXjqHlMS7x9bOzSFoIe4IQ2laJg8pwnAg5oLZy4c6FvKV1E2_KcH7uVngSjhEEdO3RuzNUa/w400-h225/60+MXS+V2+Video+Artwork__002.jpg" width="400" /></a></div></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div></div></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEh2QM7pM3aIQtmd6G2z8Oq8uwRUjaC534quDTtFf5wBju96xPolMRGoGs3uu7-ypLSUbxeou9pOsPG0w0WvPcRuBQnx4SBJNnfyN28WuYquq2Xe_QgPuIkFMnsrdag-qxu3J1cv28nFqSBVV7niITP1_bEY4SWtsoQqh_QjzdIr_uM2HQu4qNnsxNrWxg=s1600" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1600" data-original-width="900" height="640" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEh2QM7pM3aIQtmd6G2z8Oq8uwRUjaC534quDTtFf5wBju96xPolMRGoGs3uu7-ypLSUbxeou9pOsPG0w0WvPcRuBQnx4SBJNnfyN28WuYquq2Xe_QgPuIkFMnsrdag-qxu3J1cv28nFqSBVV7niITP1_bEY4SWtsoQqh_QjzdIr_uM2HQu4qNnsxNrWxg=w360-h640" width="360" /></a></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><p></p>Doc Austinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09358924159613442642noreply@blogger.com6tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2245334704739395263.post-29186747582214170502021-02-09T13:23:00.009-05:002021-10-19T11:24:09.836-04:00Extreme Flight 48" Edge EXP V2__Flight Report<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgPG6vkKzOm1Z8inExpSpFV_hBcjFPJlG0iEFC8jeUSkK9cp6iq8nOPkvc37Mj8p5rdqdm8FrLHVGzz0pi7CRTnMrYT7m-X2r6RL21-6uwajuT2EpkRXTSz1rVxbCu1eElWc0i93LububX1/s2048/Edge+V2+Raw+Aerwork+010.bmp" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1152" data-original-width="2048" height="360" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgPG6vkKzOm1Z8inExpSpFV_hBcjFPJlG0iEFC8jeUSkK9cp6iq8nOPkvc37Mj8p5rdqdm8FrLHVGzz0pi7CRTnMrYT7m-X2r6RL21-6uwajuT2EpkRXTSz1rVxbCu1eElWc0i93LububX1/w640-h360/Edge+V2+Raw+Aerwork+010.bmp" width="640" /></a></div><br /><div><br /></div><div>Edges are so well loved that they are near the top of almost everyone's list of favorites. With the straight leading edge (LE) to its wing, the Edge is generally accepted to have the best near stall and post stall manners of all. Recently planes like the Gamebird and Velox have narrowed the stability gap, but the Edge is still the benchmark.</div><div><br /></div><div>This makes the Edge the obvious choice for a lot of people, especially inexperienced 3D pilots. Harrier flight is the building block of all 3D skills, and the Edge does that better than any of them. When you learn 3D, that's where you start, and you need a plane that is good at it. You need a plane that will stay under you and not give you any nasty surprises, and again, this is where the Edge is the best.</div><div><br /></div><div>In harrier flight you can get wing rocking, which sees the plane drop one wing, and then the other, back and forth. On some planes it can become so pronounced that the plane will eventually veer of to wherever it wants to go, or at best the whole thing just looks sloppy. Better planes will rock a little, but not enough to see the plane go off course, but it still doesn't looks as good as a dead solid stable, wings level harrier. The Edge doesn't suffer from this at all, which makes it ideal for learning harrier.</div><div><br /></div><div>I learned harrier on an Extra, but it was a good one that didn't rock too badly. It was almost like a rhythmic little dance. The moment I switched to an Edge though, all of that stopped and my harrier got much better overnight. This is the ideal plane for 3D training.</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjYn1UEblPFpAisvIyYhmiRxyoUSZQr4GfMepJHrTrCsH3i4DnaDXD91d9czt34XDaM42lWsvXqKEQbMp2KmPMES4v__JcT44ie6v2QiZTBrMVezSXd3hcsbRArL78UQeb8rR59hSRO8Ff8/s2048/48+Edge+V2__023.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1152" data-original-width="2048" height="225" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjYn1UEblPFpAisvIyYhmiRxyoUSZQr4GfMepJHrTrCsH3i4DnaDXD91d9czt34XDaM42lWsvXqKEQbMp2KmPMES4v__JcT44ie6v2QiZTBrMVezSXd3hcsbRArL78UQeb8rR59hSRO8Ff8/w400-h225/48+Edge+V2__023.jpg" width="400" /></a></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><div class="separator" style="clear: both;"><img border="0" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh9P3Zr7xGMHThl4q3Yaqk9DqFEgBi1p0Ug1HMI2KyBFQ6uMub72-WvKR8BCPF0tLqjfigNjNdnhj7FLwSchyphenhyphenT-HTBCQAJRNW2WxXscgb6Q75fzlBSCNI_jSruB73m25nZl53E_UgviA_sR/w200-h113/48+Edge+V2__026.jpg" /><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhT4aEXdk381VMaBxXDB9TqKC2Dg2UlJr1aEhE0v8XVuMXOKEqMeNtgzH5jYWINPwuw89PFcMdgMlp3BQTr3tapjj-S3ESvjZATXA0ESs6iVl02wTAuqTN6QsP6TeI8SA6wiMvvqMJpabWB/s2048/48+Edge+V2__026.jpg"></a><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgN8d_qLyaFchHSZvncaduYoI3sGM318_ZwfbNUKoaPGnXYp5P8EPNyFC1zEeWnblIwv6cSz5SHufpCnUF18G7D9XoIHA6QZjucjrQ_Jtd2sjsGg0fwqTZ5AxyTul7kPo3UReNPZgfOWC0y/s2048/48+Edge+V2__034.jpg"></a><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgN8d_qLyaFchHSZvncaduYoI3sGM318_ZwfbNUKoaPGnXYp5P8EPNyFC1zEeWnblIwv6cSz5SHufpCnUF18G7D9XoIHA6QZjucjrQ_Jtd2sjsGg0fwqTZ5AxyTul7kPo3UReNPZgfOWC0y/s2048/48+Edge+V2__034.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1152" data-original-width="2048" height="113" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgN8d_qLyaFchHSZvncaduYoI3sGM318_ZwfbNUKoaPGnXYp5P8EPNyFC1zEeWnblIwv6cSz5SHufpCnUF18G7D9XoIHA6QZjucjrQ_Jtd2sjsGg0fwqTZ5AxyTul7kPo3UReNPZgfOWC0y/w200-h113/48+Edge+V2__034.jpg" width="200" /></a><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"></div></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi6XA8f4_f3t4Dkp81rO6E_-8iAOCjrFic6faCaMVW50dXmSD6Fllh2dDCNRKnOe7sheRt-IOMQkHdOhWxf70D-UKgUdTXjI5KIwwYoLqL3RsCJmNLqUq-elNJetHnJVLbTHrJcnjEW7pv_/s2048/48+Edge+V2__029.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1152" data-original-width="2048" height="113" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi6XA8f4_f3t4Dkp81rO6E_-8iAOCjrFic6faCaMVW50dXmSD6Fllh2dDCNRKnOe7sheRt-IOMQkHdOhWxf70D-UKgUdTXjI5KIwwYoLqL3RsCJmNLqUq-elNJetHnJVLbTHrJcnjEW7pv_/w200-h113/48+Edge+V2__029.jpg" width="200" /></a></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhgAPZX-xs1PiEVXohPL-z9nNPUp4iY10nATA3TU1eH9y7PqKSoF9IKKO-o4cennZlI19Jz3GYVsQUQuG-xoL4gN4TttmmvXQLxjamDiw1sE5emEhDlw8QU1bEY0EPY7Ib3hRgjmUns7boj/s2048/48+Edge+V2__050.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1152" data-original-width="2048" height="225" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhgAPZX-xs1PiEVXohPL-z9nNPUp4iY10nATA3TU1eH9y7PqKSoF9IKKO-o4cennZlI19Jz3GYVsQUQuG-xoL4gN4TttmmvXQLxjamDiw1sE5emEhDlw8QU1bEY0EPY7Ib3hRgjmUns7boj/w400-h225/48+Edge+V2__050.jpg" width="400" /></a></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div></div></div><div><br /></div><div>This stability doesn't make the Edge any less capable of precision, snapping or tumbling maneuvers. The precision of this latest Edge was a little surprising. Generally Edges are good here, but the stiffness of the new V2 construction keeps the plane perfectly aligned and tracking straight. We saw this improvement in the 48 Extra V2, but it seems to have helped the Edge in particular.</div><div><br /></div><div>The Edge still does all of those just great, though shorter coupled planes like the Velox are a little better at the violent moves. Still, unless you want to tumble one into orbit or something, he Edge is still plenty violent enough,</div><div><br /></div><div> The Edge will still wind itself up tighter in a KE spin than any of the others and is probably the best at pop tops. In waterfall, the edge will rotate over and over on it's wing tube, and it's also probably the best at this.</div><div><br /></div><div>We've done so many Edge reviews it's impossible not to say the same things over and over. If I wanted to be lazy and dishonest I could just copy and paste the 60" Edge V2 flying report because all of the things I said about that plane are pretty much the same I could say about the new 48". Instead, I'll post a link for you to read at your leisure. <a href="http://docaustinextreme.blogspot.com/2020/08/extreme-flight-60-edge-v2flight-review.html" style="font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 18px;" target="_blank">Extreme Flight 60 Edge V2__Flight Review</a></div><div><br /></div><div>Flight analysis is great, but nothing tells you as much as the flying itself. That's why we have four videos this time instead of our usual two. After a quick shake down and installation hop, I knew what I had. The plane took a notch of up trim, and outside of that I never touched any adjustment on the plane. I checked a few things for tightness, but the way the plane came off the bench is the way I flew it all day. This wasn't me being lazy..... this was a matter of nothing needed changing. The plane came off the bench essentially prefect.</div><div><br /></div><div>Final piece of advice on this plane, please refer to the Edge build video linked to in the last report. I watched the video a few times and the knowledge gained there really helped make the plane come out as well as it did. Also, follow the set up from the manual, especially the low rates (<i>especially</i> you new guys). You can experiment all you want with set up, but the manufacturers know these planes better than we do and their recommendations are always the best place to start.</div><div><br /></div><div>
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Doc Austinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09358924159613442642noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2245334704739395263.post-81904265313911019992021-02-03T19:11:00.015-05:002022-03-21T17:37:36.899-04:00Extreme Flight 48" Edge V2__American Classic Refined<p><br /></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjRRrE3rZN_m8dX2aeo9YQWWW7ezTyZ6_B_vPVxaWDvV8TntFmkeugkFlWk0YRAZQoUs1XqFfPoRGS4SCU7lf5MmzJa4fZuFEr996atchPiiDmVR3YcYzRa5g5_g7egDTDNd_Ljc2vrNSgK/s2048/60+Edge+V2+Video+Artwork+004.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1152" data-original-width="2048" height="225" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjRRrE3rZN_m8dX2aeo9YQWWW7ezTyZ6_B_vPVxaWDvV8TntFmkeugkFlWk0YRAZQoUs1XqFfPoRGS4SCU7lf5MmzJa4fZuFEr996atchPiiDmVR3YcYzRa5g5_g7egDTDNd_Ljc2vrNSgK/w400-h225/60+Edge+V2+Video+Artwork+004.jpg" width="400" /></a></div><p></p><br />Its been a tough year for me when it comes to containing my excitement. While I love the new Gamebird and 60" Edge V2, the 48" Extra EXP really set me off and I've been immensely enjoying that plane almost evey day. The only thing missing in the fleet would be a 48 Edge V2, and we will soon have it.<br /><br />Now we're set for the arrival of the new 48" Edge V2, which may be the most anticipated plane of the last decade. Everyone loves the Edge, especially in this size, from sport pilots and 3D newbies, all the way to hardcore 3DXA veterans.<br /><br />This is where you new guys start because you need a moderately priced plane to learn 3D on. The Edge is universally accepted to be the best 3D trainer, partially because of it's superb stability, but in particular for it's impeccable harrier characteristics.<br /><br />The Edge is also going to be great for veterans who want something savage in a smaller size. It's easy to fly, but still fully capable. This plane will be gentle enough for new 3D pilots to learn with, but agile enough to keep an experienced pilot fully entertained. They are going to sell out super fast, so be ready.<br /><br />What makes the 48s so special is their size. It's as big as you can go and still get it in the car assembled, uses cheap batteries and equipment, stores easily and flies like a bat out of hell. Can't think of any thing more I could ask from an airplane.<br /><br />They fly just fine with standard equipment but can be turned into Intergalactic Battle Cruisers set on kill with premium servos and a good stability system for not much more. I think these planes are good enough to deserve that.<br /><br />Again departing from the format, we will save the flying section for the a flight report. Don't worry, we're using that time to enjoy the build and make sure everything is perfect. Should only be a few days.<br /><br /><br /><b>V2 Improvements</b><br />We have seen how the V2 treatment has transformed planes like the 48" and 60" Extra EXP, so it was no surprise that the Edge benefited from this just as much, and in the same ways.<br /><br />Generally the V2 is stronger all the way around, and it's in the air, where all this strength, and especially stiffness gives you a more precise plane. Nothing is flexing or moving, so the plane stays straight and flies straight even under the most extreme stress. This is crucial with snaps and tumbles, walls, pop tops, and other high stress maneuvers, where it helps you control the entry and exit better. <div><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgEQ1Y61QCABx6mFWalvOc_Obz_pak9fpO284-Qfb_DIGTx08GNrQWEDFPnWDuzEZG-vkQMQGVNuO4tVHijrRbTDwA_fExeSZ1P_APXcEM6w7-UgHH99iKWSdjv3fWDVyyriXQ0yPZA67Q6/s2048/20150618_211240.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1152" data-original-width="2048" height="225" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgEQ1Y61QCABx6mFWalvOc_Obz_pak9fpO284-Qfb_DIGTx08GNrQWEDFPnWDuzEZG-vkQMQGVNuO4tVHijrRbTDwA_fExeSZ1P_APXcEM6w7-UgHH99iKWSdjv3fWDVyyriXQ0yPZA67Q6/w400-h225/20150618_211240.jpg" width="400" /></a></div><div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgsW1i6xob9lgVRKqZk7EzbjZkQxi_G0RTc6PQKorscdrjP8T2nbdw-x23TecJBcHZkTlNoDtcjhX_HO1IEPVUnjlcclnymvqNamOZfmPgIzOMDHLJyHF41dSw27c92WCAJGdLhF_cAj-Y0/s2048/20150616_234955.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1152" data-original-width="2048" height="113" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgsW1i6xob9lgVRKqZk7EzbjZkQxi_G0RTc6PQKorscdrjP8T2nbdw-x23TecJBcHZkTlNoDtcjhX_HO1IEPVUnjlcclnymvqNamOZfmPgIzOMDHLJyHF41dSw27c92WCAJGdLhF_cAj-Y0/w200-h113/20150616_234955.jpg" width="200" /></a><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi-JIH7-fUqJh1u0dLKbZcaqop3TffbDFl9Fhi5IX20CdkFsb1xqoi-ca0nf5uNo9v7MZXerKQKWIADN3rGNJ09kHODLFfAstVR_ark5SfwaTSZy9ieFBC2f_WDKWg9BEu_is7qJXJjZu0S/s2048/20150616_235027.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1152" data-original-width="2048" height="113" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi-JIH7-fUqJh1u0dLKbZcaqop3TffbDFl9Fhi5IX20CdkFsb1xqoi-ca0nf5uNo9v7MZXerKQKWIADN3rGNJ09kHODLFfAstVR_ark5SfwaTSZy9ieFBC2f_WDKWg9BEu_is7qJXJjZu0S/w200-h113/20150616_235027.jpg" width="200" /></a></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div></div></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiOXQ2fWyyU7WshHkziMxzF51eh3PEAGbNOotm-FxoANzzlR0XnS0pqvjKZiACRuyW5GBLexMTHBIyOq7_aL0zkodmWYhBCkP5_kS2nkRH-LV7Jy6a4tIe1ICi-iwCOLxaptTMqTIF7NpJ7/s2048/20150616_234949.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1152" data-original-width="2048" height="226" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiOXQ2fWyyU7WshHkziMxzF51eh3PEAGbNOotm-FxoANzzlR0XnS0pqvjKZiACRuyW5GBLexMTHBIyOq7_aL0zkodmWYhBCkP5_kS2nkRH-LV7Jy6a4tIe1ICi-iwCOLxaptTMqTIF7NpJ7/w400-h226/20150616_234949.jpg" width="400" /></a></div><div><br />Once you figure out the timing, this makes snaps and tumbles much more precise. It's easier to make the plane come out pointed exactly where you want it, which becomes more of a precision thing than just mindlessly flopping around and waiting to see where it comes out.<br /><br />You get a stiffer plane that is more lively for snaps, tumbles, and other XA moves, and a precision plane that stays in alignment no matter how much stress you put on it. Essentially you get a better flying, longer lasting plane.<div><div><br /><b>KIT</b></div><div>After the build I checked my photos and they were all blurry. Thankfully our friend oldlawndart (from RC Groups) was putting a red one together and offered to let me use some of his photos. So, thanks oldlawndart!</div><div><b><br /></b>The first thing you are going to notice when you pop the hatch is the extensive use of carbon and mixed composite materials. <br /><br />As strong as the V1s were, there really wasn't a lot that needed to be changed. Most of the updates to the V2 revolve around building it out of lighter, stiffer, and stronger composite material. A lighter plane is going to fly better, and a stiffer plane is going to be more lively and precise.<br /><br />As seen on other V2 models, Extreme Flight is moving ahead with the extended use of carbon and mixed composite materials. Previous 48" Extras used carbon rods to support the motorbox, but the V2 has the newer, angled side motorbox, which is also heavily reinforced with carbon. This is not only more stiff than the previous motorbox, but also simplifies the design and gives you a lot more room to work when changing out the battery. <br /><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both;"><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg6yvMGrr9D9ZBS-mP3eW5NgVJ8Gzg13JguI7RHdydyfZBTXBY7VAphApFZB4G3DtBoLvtAz2c830ks1ybeVvh0YaZjdmhU1LHbztj9F33F0CQiVos7b6hJLLGUUJFFuuqTKkrN7SNekmcP/" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img data-original-height="2048" data-original-width="1536" height="200" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg6yvMGrr9D9ZBS-mP3eW5NgVJ8Gzg13JguI7RHdydyfZBTXBY7VAphApFZB4G3DtBoLvtAz2c830ks1ybeVvh0YaZjdmhU1LHbztj9F33F0CQiVos7b6hJLLGUUJFFuuqTKkrN7SNekmcP/w150-h200/IMG_9903.jpg" width="150" /></a><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjMFWoLNGfKSXBZI-e9AR06jaJSQC-MzhWiSNvmfWlkGts1IkC5G9q1oJtyTdYfEVqZQ9aNzD4Y2Z5PijqIBx1fgz3LDUlFcKVqku8ajdP9D9apB4-lLht6-gIaGRDFaeBMij_ERKGIhZqF/" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img data-original-height="2048" data-original-width="1536" height="200" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjMFWoLNGfKSXBZI-e9AR06jaJSQC-MzhWiSNvmfWlkGts1IkC5G9q1oJtyTdYfEVqZQ9aNzD4Y2Z5PijqIBx1fgz3LDUlFcKVqku8ajdP9D9apB4-lLht6-gIaGRDFaeBMij_ERKGIhZqF/w150-h200/IMG_9902.jpg" width="150" /></a></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div>Combined with the V2 composite top, sides and bottom of the motorbox, plus carbon formers all the way to the back of the battery compartment, this is the strongest, stiffest 48" we have ever seen. We learned in pylon racing that a stiffer motor mounting transfers the most power to the propeller itself instead of wasting it by flexing and absorbing it. This is simply better engineering.<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div></div><div> <a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgGgt3EbH0-WMKUZ1HrcM7m2ZQzDNbk-aOU_N5yTDNNbpxbwU0JBH_rMv5e_cPsNDSIIuMjznI9mBwytHhyphenhyphen0D9xjc3xUBKepZ1AcIshxJpzhNi7Fz4rL5XBjIOOWQnCMzdtqg01MOcP2jQ2/" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em; text-align: center;"><img data-original-height="1536" data-original-width="2048" height="300" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgGgt3EbH0-WMKUZ1HrcM7m2ZQzDNbk-aOU_N5yTDNNbpxbwU0JBH_rMv5e_cPsNDSIIuMjznI9mBwytHhyphenhyphen0D9xjc3xUBKepZ1AcIshxJpzhNi7Fz4rL5XBjIOOWQnCMzdtqg01MOcP2jQ2/w400-h300/IMG_9898.jpg" width="400" /><br /><br /></a></div><div style="text-align: center;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #0000ee;"><u><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgxid8ksJe6K2Z5RBUhz2QW1sq0UvuLleSflmBZT6OeynKKrphLjpR149pknxH15BqDkmCvgyEHk5Z2AN00uj71PrvjVvF0N06z_-YFdM3DkFh0DgfkaA9eX-ZQYPxRhzlm9BaWYyaBq8lY/" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img data-original-height="1536" data-original-width="2048" height="150" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgxid8ksJe6K2Z5RBUhz2QW1sq0UvuLleSflmBZT6OeynKKrphLjpR149pknxH15BqDkmCvgyEHk5Z2AN00uj71PrvjVvF0N06z_-YFdM3DkFh0DgfkaA9eX-ZQYPxRhzlm9BaWYyaBq8lY/w200-h150/IMG_9895.jpg" width="200" /></a><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEigHIEe5JK8LpaGdxpcQte8u43G9uuJcj9agROA8NNQGvkgNDzJj9tg933FeozHXya6T-PpsjCbdfJEZRUi1BdeuuSaXsEF7nht3BqSbHUQ8_U4P68VHHGYIqp8wn_epWWz8bdEl2usP3d2/" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img data-original-height="1536" data-original-width="2048" height="150" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEigHIEe5JK8LpaGdxpcQte8u43G9uuJcj9agROA8NNQGvkgNDzJj9tg933FeozHXya6T-PpsjCbdfJEZRUi1BdeuuSaXsEF7nht3BqSbHUQ8_U4P68VHHGYIqp8wn_epWWz8bdEl2usP3d2/w200-h150/IMG_9899.jpg" width="200" /></a></div></div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div></u></span></div>Again, like all the other V2s, this one features the self jigging horizontal stabilizer. You simply jam it all the way forward and it locks into place perfectly aligned. I've build 10 or 12 planes using this feature and they all came out perfect. I measure them anyway, and I recommend that, simply because I want to be sure.</div><div><br /></div><div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg1NauniIlZJPQF9pQNtC9UQj2MROdRkMZF7RK9RIRCZF6zGqvZnjSJN1GlpsNhkhJXGfxz7_NoGEyoyesbFoRavEsuucO-Dtb3JdpmnzT4qlU2BkT2WJ7ZuuyfX0kE3HNRQ69fUhc-jOXO/" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img alt="" data-original-height="1536" data-original-width="2048" height="240" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg1NauniIlZJPQF9pQNtC9UQj2MROdRkMZF7RK9RIRCZF6zGqvZnjSJN1GlpsNhkhJXGfxz7_NoGEyoyesbFoRavEsuucO-Dtb3JdpmnzT4qlU2BkT2WJ7ZuuyfX0kE3HNRQ69fUhc-jOXO/" width="320" /></a></div><div><br /></div><div>Here you can see the leading edge of the stab is notched, and the center has a flat face. You slide the stab in and pus it all the way forward until the center seats on the little alignment "formers" at the front of the stabilizer saddle. I always measure to be sure, but this method gives you are dead straight alignment.</div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgJn372d0BmyDMyL2jFBJthgNHMMsq2F4CsdnT-dkVV1naOnPqwmZ48B3RTPBw9BnEKcq1bfKrQHTEnw4CveG8sSdRh4Y2jYhC_loSm32LQKxOdO_M3rctGEfpH2Ycn6eihG53ogzE49orU/" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img alt="" data-original-height="1536" data-original-width="2048" height="240" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgJn372d0BmyDMyL2jFBJthgNHMMsq2F4CsdnT-dkVV1naOnPqwmZ48B3RTPBw9BnEKcq1bfKrQHTEnw4CveG8sSdRh4Y2jYhC_loSm32LQKxOdO_M3rctGEfpH2Ycn6eihG53ogzE49orU/" width="320" /></a></div><div><br /></div><div>The Edge comes with Extreme Flight's new wing quick latch system. You can see how it works in the build video. You slide the latch forward and it captures the wing bolt. Very simple and effective system.</div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhVC6yLdUnvsFgHhKfSz8SJ1c8vXkeDjaKQGYbSeKrGoYpslmLuxNXwZJAirBv5v_VuqUpImCgzpsAv15Lc6igJr14y8AOYAaH0oaHOFTQQXq6H-qxfnFkbZ3q7haQkW8yHB1IARsSQqVY7/" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img alt="" data-original-height="1536" data-original-width="2048" height="240" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhVC6yLdUnvsFgHhKfSz8SJ1c8vXkeDjaKQGYbSeKrGoYpslmLuxNXwZJAirBv5v_VuqUpImCgzpsAv15Lc6igJr14y8AOYAaH0oaHOFTQQXq6H-qxfnFkbZ3q7haQkW8yHB1IARsSQqVY7/" width="320" /></a></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj854rV-_gC_h9YmlFkPaPzBe-59tbrnVir4oCIbrJm0VjdPqXXNkx_dgVDO_CfFUVZRpa5xw8CadXm94vdC_Tq92_xc03ketOuciR7XICBB69koVQ3aS0zxi39bpuvEZaFVMJ6QLS7AMRZ/" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img data-original-height="1536" data-original-width="2048" height="150" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj854rV-_gC_h9YmlFkPaPzBe-59tbrnVir4oCIbrJm0VjdPqXXNkx_dgVDO_CfFUVZRpa5xw8CadXm94vdC_Tq92_xc03ketOuciR7XICBB69koVQ3aS0zxi39bpuvEZaFVMJ6QLS7AMRZ/w200-h150/IMG_9919.jpg" width="200" /></a><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiBK0GmqGxcTOLQPHt-im-1kPte2SyGSONdmg7o4GFcDqJtOvixYTz3U6XNnCah9dvdj9QvECEhrWekUyGJJBvcIW_U5oUklRyeSTsoVrlKbLZuBLnLAYU9lPKw-mSnmA3JMIxDs-3E2zPl/" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img data-original-height="1536" data-original-width="2048" height="150" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiBK0GmqGxcTOLQPHt-im-1kPte2SyGSONdmg7o4GFcDqJtOvixYTz3U6XNnCah9dvdj9QvECEhrWekUyGJJBvcIW_U5oUklRyeSTsoVrlKbLZuBLnLAYU9lPKw-mSnmA3JMIxDs-3E2zPl/w200-h150/IMG_9917.jpg" width="200" /></a></div></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div></div><div>Generally the V2 is stronger all the way around, but it's not like the V1 needed any more of that. I never broke one in the air, and even in outright crashes the planes held up extremely well. Where the V2 treatment really comes into play is in the air, where all this strength, and especially stiffness gives you a more precise plane. Nothing is flexing or moving, so the plane stays straight and flies straight even under the most extreme stress. This is crucial with snaps and tumbles, walls, pop tops, and other high stress maneuvers, where it helps you control the entry and exit better. Once you figure out the timing it's easier to make the plane come out pointed exactly where you want it, which becomes more of a precision thing than just mindlessly flopping around and waiting to see where it comes out.</div><div><br />Mostly this eliminates the most stressful and time consuming part of the job. I used to spend about an hour on this, but now I push the stab forward, measure it, and it's always perfect. Having a bit of OCD with these planes, I measure it over and over, and this part is probably the most time consuming part of the build. </div><div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhjOoh-vZEKGF3NQXGFHhku_Gd5N5E_AhZNJvPOOXKP0D5bFWBI55Ni9kvMxH85KIJ0UiB1eTfsRFWzk1pZ_0pe38FEGz_765o3P-Ksbv929zaBhURgyaLGlE_wTgFf6dY-uHE5_ma6DjiU/" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img data-original-height="1536" data-original-width="2048" height="150" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhjOoh-vZEKGF3NQXGFHhku_Gd5N5E_AhZNJvPOOXKP0D5bFWBI55Ni9kvMxH85KIJ0UiB1eTfsRFWzk1pZ_0pe38FEGz_765o3P-Ksbv929zaBhURgyaLGlE_wTgFf6dY-uHE5_ma6DjiU/w200-h150/IMG_9924.jpg" width="200" /></a><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj2xaDwOc3zgiRyuxxa1a8N1LIfHLJjSdLvNqY9CBOu0FsXp9UJChN6LeLkPy1DCdAqEgInpflzQTpdfpLsVsFOnz24lE2i19z_jqHBPamlAXfCqVfdg1-joaqlZEaZihT1DuDlUu1JESa5/" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img data-original-height="1536" data-original-width="2048" height="150" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj2xaDwOc3zgiRyuxxa1a8N1LIfHLJjSdLvNqY9CBOu0FsXp9UJChN6LeLkPy1DCdAqEgInpflzQTpdfpLsVsFOnz24lE2i19z_jqHBPamlAXfCqVfdg1-joaqlZEaZihT1DuDlUu1JESa5/w200-h150/IMG_9922.jpg" width="200" /></a></div></div><br />In general the build went so easy I can heartily recommend this plane as a first balsa build. The only part of the build that took much skill and patience was the hinging, and my secrets for that are in my <a href="http://docaustinextreme.blogspot.com/2016/03/miscellaneous-build-and-set-up-tricks_4.html" target="_blank"><b>Miscellaneous Build And Set Up Tricks article</b></a>. as well as in the build video posted in the next section.<br /><br />Aside from the stab and hinging, everything else on the build is a simple bolt on operation. If you are not happy with it, simply take it apart and do it over. Since once glued, you can't do that with the stab and hinging, it makes sense to do those first when you are fresh, take your time and build patiently.<br /><br />As such, your best tool is going to be patience, and forget about the claims people make about building in X amount of time. It's not a macho contest. Generally it takes me seven or eight hours, but remember, I've been building planes my whole life, had good teachers and know the tricks. <br /><br />Don't rush it, and it takes as long as it takes to get it right. Mostly I enjoy working with such quality equipment and I am usually disappointed it didn't take longer. I used to hate building but now it's almost like it's another hobby. Slow down and enjoy! The Edge went together so perfectly with so little effort that it was done before I was ready to stop! After being locked down for so long with nothing to do it was a real treat to have something to build, but it went too fast! I guess I had better get a white one right away!<br /><br /><b>Hardware</b><br />I don't like a lot of change just for the sake of change, so I'm really glad Extreme Flight has kept the same hardware package we've been using since the introduction of the EXP series. It's all tough, reliable stuff that we all know forward and backward, which makes it easy to work with. It's also nearly bullet proof, but it's nice most of us have a good supply of spares built up over the years.<br /><br />There are a few changes here, but they are all good. Most of the Phillips head bolts have been replaced by Xessories titanium colored case hardened allen bolts. You can use the same allen tool to check the landing gear, and cowl screws. Not only does this simplify pre-flight inspection, but they just look really good and the titanium color goes along nicely with the composite construction's modern, hi tech look.</div><div><br /></div><span style="font-size: x-large;"><div style="text-align: center;"><b>Building</b></div></span><br />Since this is such an important plane for the new guys, Extreme Flight's product development chief, Ben Fisher, made a nice build-along video. Here he covers every step in real time, so you can prop your phone up on the bench and use the video as a guide. There are lots of great ticks and information in here, Even if you are an experienced builder, there's still plenty to learn here.</div><div><br /></div><div>My kit also came with a conventional paper build manual, which is great for us old timers used to doing it that way, and it's nice to have so much build reference material.</div><div><br /></div><div>Sadly, after the build I checked the photos I had taken and most of them were all out of focus. It's too late to go back and take more photos, but you can see every bit of the plane in good detail in the video.<br /><div><b><span style="font-size: x-large;"><br /></span></b></div><div style="text-align: center;"><b><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><iframe allowfullscreen="" class="BLOG_video_class" height="266" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/W1PCb0wpyoM" width="320" youtube-src-id="W1PCb0wpyoM"></iframe></div></b></div><div style="text-align: center;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: center;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: left;">Most of this build was like a surgical procedure. Everything slid together, bolted together or glued together perfectly. It didn't have top trim or tinker with anything. I was kind of on auto pilot until I got to the cowling, and thankfully, at least for me, you still have to mount it yourself, and I accept that as a challenge to get it perfect. That, or it's my OCD kicking in.</div><div style="text-align: left;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: left;">If you follow the procedure in the video manual, <b>and take your time</b>, you can't get it wrong. I've always done mine a little differently, but this time I tried it Ben's way and got really good results. I'll probably keep doing it this way because you can't get it much better than this.</div><div style="text-align: center;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: center;"><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj1tpoFCWEEVQ-cnH6DGtHDnn68pASGg4_F6ovn45QS_HiIn_u-7Bjdm1XyQFOBg5nSfOcsyP45oD4QjEf5pVnjNZdLVACaytIwDKVhgVBCxQXTmKEBqrQYKwYm7TKfmWHlEv5Ims4pb4Tz/" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img data-original-height="1152" data-original-width="2048" height="225" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj1tpoFCWEEVQ-cnH6DGtHDnn68pASGg4_F6ovn45QS_HiIn_u-7Bjdm1XyQFOBg5nSfOcsyP45oD4QjEf5pVnjNZdLVACaytIwDKVhgVBCxQXTmKEBqrQYKwYm7TKfmWHlEv5Ims4pb4Tz/w400-h225/20150618_212935.jpg" width="400" /></a></div></div><div style="text-align: center;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: center;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: center;"><b><span style="font-size: x-large;">FLYING</span></b></div><div>It looks like we have bad weather for a couple of days, so we'll be back with a flight report on the first clear day.</div><div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhGOeKaO5HFcaM5t6hJ2R7F_rWRREMADJ3uQjbIaIajl4naYzQiJ-x0Zjv1DtpwksiGyIQ6J4Hih9NQrZ-0eXuCaGq_2qlv45YlGMojukZ2MYPs9zUBq0_rtZaKUeqpSnu6K0d38Yun-G6V/" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img data-original-height="1152" data-original-width="2048" height="226" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhGOeKaO5HFcaM5t6hJ2R7F_rWRREMADJ3uQjbIaIajl4naYzQiJ-x0Zjv1DtpwksiGyIQ6J4Hih9NQrZ-0eXuCaGq_2qlv45YlGMojukZ2MYPs9zUBq0_rtZaKUeqpSnu6K0d38Yun-G6V/w400-h226/20150618_213343.jpg" width="400" /></a></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhBzsxgyDPWifP-x8DrW4l83cyZpkYEy6xHXtbO4x6g50Qjn9iGb_997a2yK6UEZ5_fFSLM2ytTH5FOibK4os4rOh_fKcADgLz9eHN26IJf2gVWjoIE5xi5ryfdLhvFUx0LPP3dkNwvNUR4/" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img data-original-height="1152" data-original-width="2048" height="113" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhBzsxgyDPWifP-x8DrW4l83cyZpkYEy6xHXtbO4x6g50Qjn9iGb_997a2yK6UEZ5_fFSLM2ytTH5FOibK4os4rOh_fKcADgLz9eHN26IJf2gVWjoIE5xi5ryfdLhvFUx0LPP3dkNwvNUR4/w200-h113/20150618_213311.jpg" width="200" /></a><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgZUoXzKO91BVciFrT36j2RqOqKMXNifLyPbUC4Qhey4p2RrwSI8nvFXLnHwqCGk_HD8vryDfbcAaFODbICgVhDBp7Bb8Bhxx9kuoX81KAHK0OA9jPtT-knrejaIqE2KvsrP9_ARshqptNL/" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img data-original-height="1152" data-original-width="2048" height="113" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgZUoXzKO91BVciFrT36j2RqOqKMXNifLyPbUC4Qhey4p2RrwSI8nvFXLnHwqCGk_HD8vryDfbcAaFODbICgVhDBp7Bb8Bhxx9kuoX81KAHK0OA9jPtT-knrejaIqE2KvsrP9_ARshqptNL/w200-h113/20150618_211329.jpg" width="200" /></a></div></div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEifsx9DU-CfANL-06IYlNk1CeYk0EXnkqoB_yEpU3mWbUfrg4w5Z8EAAbs5k1MCqtFebPg781fzwtBQmi59oI3XN9wnMNsSq82ioRMFq0qsXvaHcGKZy5gFaHxXZxjIej5m6JY_zX-QSOEt/" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img alt="" data-original-height="1152" data-original-width="2048" height="180" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEifsx9DU-CfANL-06IYlNk1CeYk0EXnkqoB_yEpU3mWbUfrg4w5Z8EAAbs5k1MCqtFebPg781fzwtBQmi59oI3XN9wnMNsSq82ioRMFq0qsXvaHcGKZy5gFaHxXZxjIej5m6JY_zX-QSOEt/" width="320" /></a></div></div><div><br /></div><span style="font-size: x-large;"><div style="text-align: center;"><b>SET UP</b></div></span></div><div><div><br /></div><div>This is the same pushrod system we've been using on the 48" EXP for over a decade. It's been simple, bulletproof, and easy to work with. </div><div><br /></div><div><b>Ailerons</b></div><div>Here I am using the arms that came with the servos. They are the same size as Hitec. Using the outer hole I am getting about 33 degrees of travel.</div><div><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjrD0cJ8yLDEJEcl5XgWlajzYzFaGEDLzlh7KdM9m3af1UbgFyL3w9gehtdSy9RhrdUGff_iUxOSCOJMiaGekINkD6ijJjAh9PzCxyTctPYK_QLhnvD-28GkHeONrjT3CIfmQWAR7_hH5qu/s2048/20150617_013554.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1152" data-original-width="2048" height="225" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjrD0cJ8yLDEJEcl5XgWlajzYzFaGEDLzlh7KdM9m3af1UbgFyL3w9gehtdSy9RhrdUGff_iUxOSCOJMiaGekINkD6ijJjAh9PzCxyTctPYK_QLhnvD-28GkHeONrjT3CIfmQWAR7_hH5qu/w400-h225/20150617_013554.jpg" width="400" /></a></div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div><div><b>Elevator</b></div><div>Here I use the G10 arm extension on the standard arm. Right now I have not turned up the endpoints in my TX, and I'm at 60 degrees up elevator with down elevator maxed out. I can get s much as 72 degrees with this arm, but we're going to start off a little tamer this time. I've been using less elevators in my planes lately, so we'll try it this way. I can always turn it up if I need more.</div><div><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both;"><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiRGHIQh4MrJxOOf5iTr1Ursuzv55TiPAtTdaF4C2bRKg0YnJYt4s2u8zCFtO_x7J2Qtb7XRpaZ-aRZUEXWYuXoVLXX_3LbOYlGdgoZ6ShTPhyphenhyphensgHhX29eIZ6Klfvy6idy9MiUj2-YNBik2/s2048/Elevator+Set+EP__004.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1152" data-original-width="2048" height="225" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiRGHIQh4MrJxOOf5iTr1Ursuzv55TiPAtTdaF4C2bRKg0YnJYt4s2u8zCFtO_x7J2Qtb7XRpaZ-aRZUEXWYuXoVLXX_3LbOYlGdgoZ6ShTPhyphenhyphensgHhX29eIZ6Klfvy6idy9MiUj2-YNBik2/w400-h225/Elevator+Set+EP__004.jpg" width="400" /></a></div><b><br />Rudder</b></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both;">Again, just the standard arm. One thing I've done differently on my last few builds is move the ball link on the servo arm to the inside. This gives the pushrod a straighter shot at the control horn. </div><div><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjBfF0OjttNjjE7xY-XtoDDcr5PbGZMmWfEGhvUTRWn1ZoPpKNzxwmQ31RY7EfyrNrAPBBUsaJzV348HqsqNv_tnivUGlyWDzbsRDKH8JLA0D0MsGj5zvQaX5lPq30OdCPzOKM9mh32CLrE/s2048/Rudder+Set+Up+0012.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1144" data-original-width="2048" height="224" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjBfF0OjttNjjE7xY-XtoDDcr5PbGZMmWfEGhvUTRWn1ZoPpKNzxwmQ31RY7EfyrNrAPBBUsaJzV348HqsqNv_tnivUGlyWDzbsRDKH8JLA0D0MsGj5zvQaX5lPq30OdCPzOKM9mh32CLrE/w400-h224/Rudder+Set+Up+0012.jpg" width="400" /></a></div><div><br /></div><div><b>Power System</b><br />Once again, it's going to be the Torque 2814/Airboss 45 ESC power system. I have been using this combination in my 48" planes, again, for over a decade. Reliability and durability has been 100% dead solid perfect. There is more power than you actually need, with enough to give unlimited vertical performance, and throttle response is perfectly linear.<div><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhFieX4qYBYR_hZuxfvFjy5ywMXDWxphtqFsd7vCAH6Frw3TEfa2uF3yq50D_vBoke0Zfht5mZNl-FWUk4lib0v5PxRnHbFS3oIFl4utYbxnYI-w1eoYkNuBD54knW4y6OC4a3BwxN1ojs0/s2048/Torque+2914__003.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1152" data-original-width="2048" height="225" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhFieX4qYBYR_hZuxfvFjy5ywMXDWxphtqFsd7vCAH6Frw3TEfa2uF3yq50D_vBoke0Zfht5mZNl-FWUk4lib0v5PxRnHbFS3oIFl4utYbxnYI-w1eoYkNuBD54knW4y6OC4a3BwxN1ojs0/w400-h225/Torque+2914__003.jpg" width="400" /></a></div><div><br /><br />Like all Extreme Flight power systems, once you bolt the cowling on you can forget about the motor and ESC and simply fly it. Most of my 2814s and Airboss' are years old, but I have so much faith in them I will drop an old beat up one into a brand new plane with no worries. The Torque is the Maytag of electric motors.</div><div><br /></div><div>I cut a small strip of balsa to use as an ESC mount. It's a good place to place the velcro, but it also raises the ESC up just enough that you can slide it back over the next former if you want to slide it back. I'm balanced according to the manual, but if I care to move the CG back I can slide the ESC back a little.</div><div><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgtlPF4Kxr_Bk8LKNw17DqDJ_NWzadxqRg-DS0DUPdyHV2ieqzAeYhEfK9SucZMQ3hhyphenhyphenVx3hYEt8iRDjXBFAxI1fb2MZgOA11KO4qgpjKfKw12uAhyphenhyphenoYeNuKco7PRMWpQucx0QVWdgJg5FA/s2048/Airboss+45+ESC__004.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1152" data-original-width="2048" height="225" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgtlPF4Kxr_Bk8LKNw17DqDJ_NWzadxqRg-DS0DUPdyHV2ieqzAeYhEfK9SucZMQ3hhyphenhyphenVx3hYEt8iRDjXBFAxI1fb2MZgOA11KO4qgpjKfKw12uAhyphenhyphenoYeNuKco7PRMWpQucx0QVWdgJg5FA/w400-h225/Airboss+45+ESC__004.jpg" width="400" /></a></div><br /><div><br /></div><div><b>BEC</b><br />For 8 volt servos you either need a 2s lipo or an external BEC. I chose the BEC because they are not that hard to solder up, and once installed you simply forget about them. I have always used the Castle 10 amp BEC on all my 8 volt planes, and again, am delighted with the reliability and durability.</div><div><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEje7U7bNQL6CszkpZ25pw04BYa-JEEQ8etHkHr5CW72PQ4wcfCHGB53_-I_Z3GNBTFmI8ql2bL_ka4dule9BFKJt0YfD6iIgayjv3Xfzu8sjv02qwdKiXWQ5gj5KFBn3KRN8vzb_4UQEF48/s1600/20140918_002441.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1200" data-original-width="1600" height="300" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEje7U7bNQL6CszkpZ25pw04BYa-JEEQ8etHkHr5CW72PQ4wcfCHGB53_-I_Z3GNBTFmI8ql2bL_ka4dule9BFKJt0YfD6iIgayjv3Xfzu8sjv02qwdKiXWQ5gj5KFBn3KRN8vzb_4UQEF48/w400-h300/20140918_002441.jpg" width="400" /></a></div><div><br />Here you can see I solder mine up a little differently. Instead of soldering both the ESC battery leads and BEC to the deans plug, I cut back the heat shrink on the wire about halfway between and solder there. It makes putting the deans plug on much easier because you don't have to hold and solder two leads to one place.</div><div><br /></div><div>I usually mount the BEC on the fuselage side down low, but this time I tried something different. On this plane I mounted it against the front of the landing gear block. This puts it dead center in the airflow coming in from the chin scoop. I've never had a problem overheating one before, but this is a better place for it, especially once summer gets here.</div><div><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiCCwJxcIqGdoGv8SAUu_62tJ7fepIU0-FoGLsOJvKDhPdmEdPmbtqmRiVhRm1X01gzZkxoT5yFLnijMW5nZ5aUzUjMjUcj9SkeBKbsRFfaV6v98QFCiR8cZ3DVk1L6Y66Y6iVpzvTjEzZb/s2048/Castle+1%25600+Amp+CEC__003.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1152" data-original-width="2048" height="225" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiCCwJxcIqGdoGv8SAUu_62tJ7fepIU0-FoGLsOJvKDhPdmEdPmbtqmRiVhRm1X01gzZkxoT5yFLnijMW5nZ5aUzUjMjUcj9SkeBKbsRFfaV6v98QFCiR8cZ3DVk1L6Y66Y6iVpzvTjEzZb/w400-h225/Castle+1%25600+Amp+CEC__003.jpg" width="400" /></a></div><div><br /></div><div>If you are running 6 volt servos, the standard Airboss will feed those just fine.<br /></div></div></div></div></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div></div>Doc Austinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09358924159613442642noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2245334704739395263.post-46140221945889213542021-01-21T18:35:00.015-05:002021-08-23T10:34:51.368-04:00Extreme Flight 64" MXS V2__Flight Report<p><span style="font-size: medium;"></span></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><span style="font-size: medium;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiyQTHrhyphenhyphenroGZU_0Soi8_wv-vxjINhggUubeWZqq74NLgK-fRPqTFwtQid-2kiSENE7LtpNymAQXA7W1-dIttg94B1QMMvD98gaQb7zWXMJgiS5paetkEuPbwHuNSJIZEeO3qa5qHFACT4O/s2048/60+MXS+V2+Video+Artwork__008.bmp" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1152" data-original-width="2048" height="360" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiyQTHrhyphenhyphenroGZU_0Soi8_wv-vxjINhggUubeWZqq74NLgK-fRPqTFwtQid-2kiSENE7LtpNymAQXA7W1-dIttg94B1QMMvD98gaQb7zWXMJgiS5paetkEuPbwHuNSJIZEeO3qa5qHFACT4O/w640-h360/60+MXS+V2+Video+Artwork__008.bmp" width="640" /></a></span></div><br /><p></p><p><span style="font-size: medium;">Following the 48" Extra and Edge EXPs, the original Extreme Flight 48" MXS was part of the trio that sent shockwaves through the mid size plane market in 2010. The MXS became the wildest of the latest and greatest new generation of 3DXA planes All three are righteous, but the MXS always had a special place in my heart for a lot of reasons, including the fact it's just pure badass.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: medium;">This was followed by the 64", which redefined extreme performance in that size. Now the larger plane has been updated to the latest V2 construction and material standards, and like we have come to expect from all the V2s, it's better than ever.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: medium;">I've written so much about all the MXS that a lot of this is going to be a repeat, but then again, the V2 is improved in almost every respect, so there will be some new stuff here too. </span></p><div><span style="font-size: medium;">While I always loved the V1 and was sorry to see it go, once I flew the V2 I fell in love with it so quickly there was no turning back. The old scheme was looking a tiny bit dated compared to the newer schemes that Extreme Flight has been coming out with and the new one is a jolly good update. As you can see, it's pretty damm swoopy.</span><span style="font-family: inherit;"><br /></span><br />The V2 keeps the checkerboard<span style="font-size: medium;"><span> wing bottom first seen on the V1, and now the stabilizer has that too. The asymmetry of that always drove me a little crazy and I always though it would look spectacular if they were covered alike. </span><span>I like that the two now match, and it does look spectacular. </span><span>The checkerboard is also blue and white, which is a sharp contrast to the r/w/b seen on the top. Bright colors are great, but it's contrast that I see better. The top looks so much different from the bottom you will probably never lose orientation of that unless you fly it straight into the sun or something. It's extremely visible, as well as being stunning.</span></span></div><div><span style="font-size: medium;"><span><br /></span></span></div><div><span style="font-size: medium;"><span><iframe allow="autoplay; fullscreen; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="360" src="https://player.vimeo.com/video/522167185" width="640"></iframe>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://vimeo.com/522167185">MXS V2__Bad Attuitude 002__A Musical.mp4</a> from <a href="https://vimeo.com/user714849">Doc Austin</a> on <a href="https://vimeo.com">Vimeo</a>.</p><p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: red;"> Photos: Click To Enlarge</span></p></span></span></div><div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEghMED06y1ek0VftD0fKLusAajtoyXPSPcVzLuayLTW01pQ03ZXAnalw33rkr7iaGym7mue24hnzQeqJqFaIc77pb2lhQDFbJBG4P1GXdghqekJPEclM8YTtpKsscMGfyYbf7nMGp-LNZEd/s2048/60+MXS+V2__Glamor+005.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1152" data-original-width="2048" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEghMED06y1ek0VftD0fKLusAajtoyXPSPcVzLuayLTW01pQ03ZXAnalw33rkr7iaGym7mue24hnzQeqJqFaIc77pb2lhQDFbJBG4P1GXdghqekJPEclM8YTtpKsscMGfyYbf7nMGp-LNZEd/s320/60+MXS+V2__Glamor+005.jpg" width="320" /></a></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhdQzg5JGens0TVMgw9vO4ezqiFhRJfLkeO3A3XX-I3yYAAThEUz2TcbqqBC8Kiewoz07NXMck2NehfPZNmRGkE0PgVPDSNxSdnpHV-4UBy52ITyCJr88LfEQuP53eHOTKz_ySOi0sWTQFB/s2048/60+MXS+V2__Glamor+015.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1152" data-original-width="2048" height="113" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhdQzg5JGens0TVMgw9vO4ezqiFhRJfLkeO3A3XX-I3yYAAThEUz2TcbqqBC8Kiewoz07NXMck2NehfPZNmRGkE0PgVPDSNxSdnpHV-4UBy52ITyCJr88LfEQuP53eHOTKz_ySOi0sWTQFB/w200-h113/60+MXS+V2__Glamor+015.jpg" width="200" /></a><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj98EX3uU0AjAe8uIoERyr06QilVqrBlk4e9NIBGvsu-NZ4TQk3wnFH3KhfU8X3DKbO5r2QYEUJo1Q7U6Jtf-lNiGnj9esvpzPR4UPloH1dyM7jOD6m0IlMTQLhxPRdzI2w5PGt1s4mdm7H/s2048/60+MXS+V2__Glamor+013.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1152" data-original-width="2048" height="113" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj98EX3uU0AjAe8uIoERyr06QilVqrBlk4e9NIBGvsu-NZ4TQk3wnFH3KhfU8X3DKbO5r2QYEUJo1Q7U6Jtf-lNiGnj9esvpzPR4UPloH1dyM7jOD6m0IlMTQLhxPRdzI2w5PGt1s4mdm7H/w200-h113/60+MXS+V2__Glamor+013.jpg" width="200" /></a></div></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><div class="separator" style="clear: both;"><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhMmG9icVEK-d07WNG5UPDTQZsi172XMUus4J8hVVf5ZYsjIRQHaMdUuCRqHeBQquDm96oWam-atYfyPP6WWrUjY9hxf5CtpxorNJmE22iC81MOV-FxYEdUw-KzqVPyd4DJfIVAQM5uLaSB/s2048/60+MXS+V2__Glamor+024.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1152" data-original-width="2048" height="113" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhMmG9icVEK-d07WNG5UPDTQZsi172XMUus4J8hVVf5ZYsjIRQHaMdUuCRqHeBQquDm96oWam-atYfyPP6WWrUjY9hxf5CtpxorNJmE22iC81MOV-FxYEdUw-KzqVPyd4DJfIVAQM5uLaSB/w200-h113/60+MXS+V2__Glamor+024.jpg" width="200" /></a></div></div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjTw7ETrOPeFAb8aOXV5yexIXLOr_BtSbjGmp0MlY1c0dtbPZTFGYViuafs8v8IbtMhBaFg_S29GGP3XFjCXBjASXd_EHBV8pHGFByfele-3Qi9_BvUPkvpabouq_-P1190t7GmM9-oKmJe/s2048/60+MXS+V2__Glamor+019.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1152" data-original-width="2048" height="225" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjTw7ETrOPeFAb8aOXV5yexIXLOr_BtSbjGmp0MlY1c0dtbPZTFGYViuafs8v8IbtMhBaFg_S29GGP3XFjCXBjASXd_EHBV8pHGFByfele-3Qi9_BvUPkvpabouq_-P1190t7GmM9-oKmJe/w400-h225/60+MXS+V2__Glamor+019.jpg" width="400" /></a></div><br /><div style="text-align: left;">Mostly the color scheme is a big improvement, modernized, easy to see and keep track of. It's just a bitchin' looking airplane. </div><div style="text-align: left;"><b><br /></b></div><div style="text-align: left;"><b>Kit And Build</b></div><div style="text-align: left;">It might be odd to see the kit itself mentioned in a flight review, but it's also worthy of note that everything about the build experience is much improved, and this will later filter over into the flying. A lot of this is from the V2 material looking so cool (and so much fun to show off to your jelly friends), but also the factory has stepped it up again. We saw this first with the Gamebird last year, from the self aligning stabilizer and pre-mounted cowling all the way to the new wing quick latch system. Virtually the entire plane from spinner to the rear tip of the rudder has been improved, and more to the point I am making, much nicer not only to assemble, but to take pride in owning.</div><div style="text-align: left;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: left;">First the Gamebird, then the 60" Edge V2 and now the MXS V2 all went together seamlessly with no fiddling, no correcting, and nothing coming out less than perfect. This alone translates into confidence the maiden is going to go well simply because everything is so right.</div><div style="text-align: left;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: left;">That, and I like nice things. I can't afford a Rolex and I can't afford a Porsche, but it's hard to care when you have planes built as beautifully as these are.</div><div style="text-align: left;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-size: x-large;"><b>Performance</b></span></div><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="text-align: left;"><br /></span></div><div style="text-align: left;">Here we're going to break down how the V2 construction and material improves the flying. If you have read any of the V2 reviews, a lot of this is going to seem familiar because this is as straight and strong as a plane can be made. The one theme that pops up over and over is stiffness, and we'll go into how that effects each area of performance.</div><div style="text-align: left;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: left;"><div style="text-align: center;"><iframe allow="autoplay; fullscreen; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="360" src="https://player.vimeo.com/video/503254767" width="640"></iframe></div><div style="text-align: center;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: center;"><div style="text-align: left;"><b>Precision</b></div><div style="text-align: left;">Perfect alignment is crucial in all aspects of flight, but especially so in precision flight. If anything if the plane flexes, there goes your alignment right along with your precision. Of course, any plane is going to flex somewhen when under extreme stress but with a good, stiff material like we see in the V2, this is minimized and the planes don't flex nearly as much. As such, the stiffer plane, all things else being equal, is always going to be more precise.</div><div style="text-align: left;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: left;">You might not think there's a lot of stress in precision maneuvers like, say, a slow roll, but remember these are usually at high speed with a hell of a lot of air going over the plane, and that alone is a lot of stress. Any flexing, any deviation from the plane staying perfectly in alignment is going to make that move look sloppy, ugly or maybe both. Definably both.</div><div style="text-align: left;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: left;">With the MXS seemingly the wildest of the EXPs, you might not expect it to do cracking precision, but the opposite is true, While not as graceful as the Extra (which nothing else is anyway), the MXS still tracks on rails and any wobbles or bobbles are strictly on the pilot's end. The plane came out of the box straight and stays straight under stress and you have yourself a big sky maneuver monster.</div><div style="text-align: left;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: left;">As easy as doing a big, round loop might seem, it's going to be impossible with a poorly tracking plane. Here the MXS has a lot going for it because it's a fast plane, and speed is stability. A fast plane has a lot of air going over it, and that locks it in and makes it not want to change direction very easily. That, and again, the stiffness of construction keeps everything aligned and keeps the plane going where you put it.</div><div style="text-align: left;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: left;">This bleeds over into other big sky stuff like Cuban 8s. They seem easy enough, but get both ends round and the same size, with the maneuver centered. Again, speed and tracking are your best weapon here and the MXS delivers.</div></div><div style="text-align: center;"><br /></div>
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If the plane flexes it's not going to go straight at any point, even if you get it right. With a good, stiff plane, you get it trimmed and then it's just a matter of hitting your controls with the right timing. You're not fighting to keep the thing straight the entire time and it's all going to look a lot better.</div><div style="text-align: left;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: left;">Is the MXS the precision king? Well, not quite. In 3DXA planes, the Extra is going to stand alone here, but the margin is more than acceptable. The Extra and MXS are similar planes, though the Extra has that longer stability and tracking inducing moment (distance between the wing and stab). I've always viewed the MXS as sort of an Extra with bomb pitch authority, and I fly those two pretty much the same way.</div><div style="text-align: left;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: left;">Most importantly I suggest you use the low rate from the manual on your precision moves. A lot of guys don't want to bother with that, but you can also see their precision game suffers from that. I gave up my precision when I started learning 3D, and when I went back to precision, it was a mess. Then I adopted the manual low rate and got it back. If nothing else, set it up and just try it. A good precision rate is extremely close to what you would use for sport, so it's nothing to be afraid of and you will fly better because of it.</div><div style="text-align: left;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: left;"><b>Snaps, Spins, Tumbles, Etc</b></div><div style="text-align: left;">Now we are on the MXS' home turf. With it's shorter moment the plane has massive pitch authority. Your snap timing will be a little different from, say, the Extra, but the MXS is going to react much more quickly, and more violently too. The V2 is even better here because the stiffer plane will not only react more quickly because none of the force is wasted on flexing, but entry and exit are much more precise due to the plane staying in alignment better. Like I say, this is a recurring theme and more proof V2 makes a better plane.</div><div style="text-align: left;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: left;">The MXS has always done beautiful pop tops with the last one slowing to the point you can stop it exactly where you want it just by releasing the rudder. This makes it easy to bring it out where you want it and fly away. One really sweet thing you can do with the MXS in a pop top is wait for that last rotation and then cross over the ailerons to about 1/8 reverse, add some power, and it will drop it into a KE spin in one motion, combining the two moves using the pop top as a unique entry. People are expecting you to just fly it away, but then you surprise them with that spin. KE spins usually make a nasty growl, so the sound and the surprise usually startles a few people, which is good for bonus points. You can also reverse the elevator and drop it into a flat spin. This is one area where the MXS is extremely adept and flexible in how you can fly it.</div><div style="text-align: left;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: left;">Regular old snap rolls are easy to control because, again, it stops when you release the controls. On high rate you use about 1/3 of elevator deflection so it doesn't act like a brake and stop the rotation, and on the precision rate you just bury the sticks, and let go where you want it to stop. Both are extremely controllable methods and the fact the plane stops so predictable takes the scare factor out of it for the pilot.</div><div style="text-align: left;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: left;">This is different from upright tumbles. Here you throw it in with as much stream as you can build up, cut power and bury everything. Different planes react to this differently. For example the Slick will throw the tail right under the nose in what looks like a back flip, where the MXS tumble more resembles a violent snap roll. Play with the timing and see what you can come up with</div><div style="text-align: left;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: center;"> <iframe allow="autoplay; fullscreen; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="360" src="https://player.vimeo.com/video/493153685" width="640"></iframe></div><div style="text-align: left;"><p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://vimeo.com/493153685">MXS V2__First Day Out</a> from <a href="https://vimeo.com/user714849">Doc Austin</a> on <a href="https://vimeo.com">Vimeo</a>.</p>
<p>.<b>Post Stall Control</b></p></div><div style="text-align: left;">As always, with post stall we need to start with harrier performance. While the MXS gives up a little to the Edge here, no one will find that to be a surprise. The Edge is king of harrier, but the MXS is still so extremely solid you can putter around with the nose up in total confidence. You can spin her around in a harrier turn on the rudder in about a half a wingspan. I've done them tighter with this plane, but I'll hold back on those until we get some more video in the can.</div><div style="text-align: left;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: left;">Straight line harrier is relatively smooth and easy. You can get some wing rock if you are sloppy, but it's next to nothing, and so rhythmic it almost looks deliberate, like it's a little dance or something. It's not going to snap out or wander off course or anything, so it's not a worry and not that often anyway. This usually only happens in a stiff crosswind when most people are packed up anyway.</div><div style="text-align: left;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: left;">Elevator maneuvers are not really the same thing as a harrier, but all the skills are the same. I used elevators as the gateway into learning harrier. The more elevators I did the better my harrier became, so I highly value a plane that sinks real pretty in an elevator. I use elevators a lot to burn altitude without gaining speed. Here the MXS is as happy as anything I have flown outside of the Edge (which does them like magic), but you can see in the video I am fearless with them, simply because the plane does them so well.</div><div style="text-align: left;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: left;">The V2 treatment has also saves us some weight and the MXS responds to this by flying even lighter on it's wings that before. It's not going to float like, say, a Gamebird, but it's roughly similar to the Extra, which is still a light plane. This lightness allows the plane to hang in the air instead of crapping out and falling to the ground. Of course, you can still stall it, but but today's planes stall predictably and in a stable fashion. After all, in 3D we're flying around in post stall with only partial lift coming off the airframe. A good plane has to have superbly benign stall characteristics and this lighter MXS has those.</div><div style="text-align: left;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: left;"><b>Wrap Up</b></div><div style="text-align: left;">In General, the MXS does everything a little better than it did before and looks damm good doing it. It's smoother, more stable, more lively, and flies lighter. It's starting to sound like all the other V2 stories, but that's because the same things can and has been said about all of them.</div><div style="text-align: left;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: left;">Is this a good first 3D plane? I'm sure it could be done, but I think most people would be better off with something more gentle like the Edge, or especially the Gamebird, at least to start with. The MXS is an extremely lively and agile plane and you should probably be an intermediate sport and/or 3D pilot before you step into one of these. It's not like it's a difficult plane or anything. It's not. You just don't learn to race cars in the Indianapolis 500. Like an Indianapolis car, this plane is pure thoroughbred.</div><div style="text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiActhrlIgU6xbNvGVxwY4j-rCjnlrzz540frOK-lWcQ9ifHqeWJBkVjSo8ndM9toX-kaLYyiuZ1_1IQJFyFd6hX34Uvnvovg2PVxH5BBBx5HfH47Ms9sVbA6W0CSJjA763wV1MwHjiz8X6/s2048/60+MXS+V2+Video+Artwork__002.bmp" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1152" data-original-width="2048" height="360" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiActhrlIgU6xbNvGVxwY4j-rCjnlrzz540frOK-lWcQ9ifHqeWJBkVjSo8ndM9toX-kaLYyiuZ1_1IQJFyFd6hX34Uvnvovg2PVxH5BBBx5HfH47Ms9sVbA6W0CSJjA763wV1MwHjiz8X6/w640-h360/60+MXS+V2+Video+Artwork__002.bmp" width="640" /></a></div></div></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div></div></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div></div>
Doc Austinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09358924159613442642noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2245334704739395263.post-51512481665472611042020-12-06T16:41:00.031-05:002021-08-23T10:09:11.121-04:00Extreme Flight 64" MXS V2__Bad Attitude 2020<div class="separator"><div style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><br /></div><div style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><a href="https://www.blogger.com/#"><img border="0" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiA1m0Q62tZnWNHmu8MHtdNZcVzx3xfEhaj-2si3qsZsun8I0eGcUdUMIudXIciyq_Pu5MwoI_SonEDrOg51rwr292-73UxWr4IeQNtyC-8R21lSiGjMGXuapXGFMgk4NOdh80YbwxbaKGi/w640-h360/60+MXS+V2+Video+Artwork__004.jpg" /></a><div><br />2020 has been a big year for the 48-60" class planes, which saw a steady stream of new Extreme Flight airframes. The Gamebird alone was enough to make for a banner year, but that was quickly followed by the highly anticipated 48" Extra V2 and then the 60" fabulous Edge V2 models. That was a big enough year, but now to close things out we're getting the new 64" MXS EXP V2. As a big fan of the original MXS, I'm delighted to see this plane updated to V2 specification. The MXS has been a favorite of mine since the 48" MXS debuted, and later with the spectacular 64. <br /><br />The 64" was so good I was not convinced we even needed a V2, that is, until I got my hands on one. These planes are always much different in person because pictures never seem to capture how nicely they are turned out. <br /><br /><div style="text-align: center;"><b><i><span style="color: red;">Click To Enlarge On All Pictures</span></i></b></div><br /><div style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://www.blogger.com/#"><img border="0" height="225" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjzEFI72TbuY10Og_jgGApRePzCmWDlOTTIIW9IYIyl_DXskqIkvMHjcaVZdJ4Ycm4nu0Ov5S-_M77R09-2WUIFRzj7Od7ASif2DNgqNzoFQW6JDh0XzEPrvkHOIhZjVOH8uP-a4i9RD-qR/w402-h225/20150418_221112.jpg" width="402" /></a></div><br /><br />Extreme Flight has taken this most excellent plane to a new level by applying the V2 upgrade, featuring extensive use of mixed composite materials. The newest construction techniques and materials opened a lot of room for improvement and Extreme Flight seized on this to bring us a better airplane. New construction techniques and materials now give us a stronger, lighter, stiffer airframe that stays tighter, last longer, and flies better.<br /><br />V2 features include carbon rods running the length of the fuselage, with G10/wood V2 composite material through the entire motorbox, battery tray and formers all the way to the tail. This is a durable plane that will take a lot of rough treatment in stride, and fly better too. We've see V2 applied to a few of our favorites before with spectacular flying results, so we can expect the same thing with this plane.<br /><br /><a href="https://www.blogger.com/#"><img border="0" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjOECGZmVsNxFSjqJat4zfpMv1Y4sQoxXx-CJ9vbzoFhKERIopYei8XcVJAsypuvl4e-lc59LjZlvHfb1dWL9M9ah3ciWwhoL8OudFBoehoq3tVNEYACTByafKaaR7o9v1DBNaL_jBT2H8m/w640-h358/20150418_221117.jpg" /></a><br /><br />How this plays out in the air is the stiffer airframe will respond to commands better instead of flexing, which makes it livelier. A stiff airplane also stays better aligned under high stress, which is kind of what we do with these planes. You might not think precision maneuvers are high stress, but remember it's usually high speed with a ton of air flowing over the plane. Keeping everything in alignment under this stress also gives you a more precise plane.<br /><br />The motorbox top, sides and bottom are composite reinforced, as are all the formers all the way to the tail. Carbon rods run the length of the fuselage, and the landing gear mounting area is heavily reinforced with carbon</div><div>
<iframe allow="autoplay; fullscreen; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="360" src="https://player.vimeo.com/video/522167185?h=9acb141afa" width="640"></iframe><p><br /></p><b><div style="text-align: center;"><b><i><span style="font-size: x-large;">KIT</span></i></b></div></b></div></div></div><div style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><b><br /></b></div><div style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><b>Wings And Retention System</b><br />New this year as seen on the 60" Gamebird and Edge V2 is the brilliant new wing retention system. You simply slide the wing on and flip a lever. It's locked and secure, but when you flip the lever the other way, the wing releases and you merely slide it off. This makes the plane more practical for those who have a small car and have to transport the plane unassembled. Sure beats 10 minutes of bolt twisting. Those with arthritis will especially appreciate this feature.<br /> <br />When you slide the wing on, the bolt passes through a hole in the fuse and into the mechanism, From there the latch captures the head of the bolt and won't let go. You may have to tinker with the bolt in the wing to get the wing attached tightly without being so tight it either fouls the latch or make working the lever too hard to operate, but it's really pretty quick and easy.<br /><br /><br /><div style="text-align: center;"><img border="0" height="225" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiqA5WRKMkpmlu1pIY7XFf1yqKOEhtm3jZZ97XSzNxhNXJ2upovfaPk0X95pOsEP_z4gpP6p58v0emh3zqcxN4PoKFV7Xx213-WdslTqEumQtvCLmg6w_VMfUQo9PeosmSgzkFPM986uVRe/w400-h225/Latch+Open.jpg" width="400" /></div> <br /><div style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://www.blogger.com/#"><img border="0" height="225" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi-xkv3zrtMdXQJ_QuqT2UVsUei6FovHG43gi7Uqrts4ASNzbtYiVKeXcpEG0QtM-Xo3gS8i_cH_b_6ou2Hf1bHvLXHMXNqiRt1qr-FIfEoiyadsp3dsB-KCRkNeFKNm5t3DiHuLsX8dQ6z/w400-h225/Wing+bolt.jpg" width="400" /></a></div><br /><div style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://www.blogger.com/#"><img border="0" height="225" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi7rlwzHA8pM3VjD6O45XJnzfD0LDSXBSUb_MdtlSc4Cj5O2v9aNbkssjBcRwWjgfWO01PFCCKZHlLA5AnmB4hOzxItwSgxLgZlKulTse09dSvHVuXKdNRbbrvDTS96RiItp0iTsp1iBpqT/w400-h225/20150418_015056.jpg" width="400" /></a></div><br />More composite reinforcement around all the servo mounts.<br /><br /><div style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://www.blogger.com/#"><img border="0" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgIunFqfx6o2xLZeby6eYQq9gYG6yFLqxNu0HzLKNHsk-jP_uEkYQxG347OIPL8knAd9u7KcABw848rjSw7vFclyRCmRbf3yW2Rf3qc0J71Xfa5dqUvM-VdsAkpENeg8mUfefeyr5I2JUk9/s320/Comnposite+reinfoirced+servoi+mounts.jpg" /></a></div><br /><br /><b>Self Aligning Stabilizer</b><br />I can't say this feature is new any more because we've had this for about three years. However, don't take this for granted because it's a critical breakthrough that makes the plane go together straighter and fly better. <br /><br />The face of the stabilizer is notched and with a flat face. All you do is slide it all the way forward until the flat face seats against the alignment formers in the front of the stabilizer saddle, measure to be sure, and glue. All of mine have come out perfect, but I still measure them just to be sure and satisfy my OCD. <br /><br />Below you can see the alignment pieces at the front of the stabilizer saddle. <br /><br /><br /><div style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://www.blogger.com/#"><img border="0" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhyyhl0gFaZkUnuKiCaLzYzMNSnD_4Hhnu0NKxIg9W3UpHo1pGok8nHI1XbzUNioVSzW8qiKMUVoszLCoRG1_G7wjM3VC6PQOND9Oil47C2GvosdwLzjijIBV8YKCKFctn-1f9Blev_0ixL/w200-h113/20150418_014944.jpg" /></a><a href="https://www.blogger.com/#"><img border="0" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgFCa-u4yChdi3BZIh6F-d1zz7BYGE4EYAVnJTVbZHzKjUTCIIt81u6PVvNw3ChQzMZsh6FxxyDN9qPHgIcotPIJw3Ev_X3uN0zcmgO83T4IFJ4m0yrDibWEQ2ZXOdSXhrvAKqMg-UKXx4O/w200-h113/20150418_014947.jpg" /></a></div><br /><div style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://www.blogger.com/#"><img border="0" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgEyxlSEienmXs99hnkxCmvEAny-d6vNXWRNbkqnmjdXo-3vzEebIlo5HMwAF83o0qn274v2LqcvdKkmgc7g6Avoo3GT2G93I4eHXbAHr5FGtPmGyBw8yIyEpqDQluRcWo39zLKLaOZigHx/w320-h181/20150418_015017.jpg" /></a></div><br /><br />Once the stabilizer is glued in and the elevator is hinged, slide the filler piece in and secure with thin CA. Do this after the elevator is hinged. I took the picture before the stab was in so it would show a better view of how the piece fits.<br /><br /><div style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://www.blogger.com/#"><img border="0" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjelO_4kyT1UdA1qwIwQqZpAk-tovH08SFe6HHz6rGfF10t8CJWVCE1zOYP5dsamUW533NyWIeZ5Je8SQ0I4eVD-TAsqGngiWEVlgxfDlUis-25YU1uvxLabBSCVWcYJ71Sps5yQAKfcJnJ/w320-h181/20150418_014314.jpg" /></a></div><br /><br /><div style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://www.blogger.com/#"><img border="0" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgF04bgHErYFbijHZnyPeU3RytBm-aF0w1zMdrEzw8bkKCBaXJFOujLJRHt6hgnn2IK6wHXVrZPgbHpHcZshfpND70E4w6Pe2tCB4S12m6gou-fiy5LDruBiBvGz5E2t4cWgGugmxxAcxpn/w320-h181/20150418_014304.jpg" /></a></div><br />This is probably the most critical part of the build because if you get it wrong you won't have a straight flying plane. By making the alignment as simple as possible, this just gives you one less thing to get wrong on the one part of the build you don't dare get wrong. This is ease of assembly is especially important for newer builder, but even after hundreds of builds, I appreciate how much stress this takes off of me. I used to torture myself measuring, adjusting, measuring, adjusting, until I made myself crazy. Now I jam the stab all the way forward, measure a couple of times, glue it and forget it. <br /><br /><b>Misc Cool Stuff</b><br />As seen on the original MXS, the kit comes with beautiful built up and sheeted racing-style wing tips. First, they look deadly cool. In the air the tips mute some of the plane's violence in snaps and tumbles, but you can get a lot of that back by working on the timing of the maneuver. Where the tips really come into play is the plane becomes a bit more stabile and harriers better. This does not quite turn the plane into a 3D trainer, but it makes the MXS so stable that new guys won't have much trouble.<br /><br /><br /><div style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://www.blogger.com/#"><img border="0" height="225" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgZ0X0UOHsQ83_faKc_XBcd_YwpZEVuHms1c6yo2dIU9L61tIywFHPJ4ek4kDsDJjgohzh662dqPTUnIYP0LGHlrTxF5pbkp7ua2aIi9KmHC1sC7D9umr8OK-hPFxIZEvkbrnUdjr_j2hUE/w400-h225/20150418_015350.jpg" width="400" /></a></div><br /><div style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://www.blogger.com/#"><img border="0" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhVEse3jTzlLBq8cDWN_6NnZm3YOc-hetR-TvAI3SaWR5_LUZXJ2Chcg1NuFw5ZDVJjEmlKO6xAzGuvHYwY7LF5myGsj9zM4yfqwD6uPwYZyNAIhpikbUEDrLlbThSiK5x0s1QpOeSR3r_6/w200-h113/20150418_015400.jpg" /></a><a href="https://www.blogger.com/#"><img border="0" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjtgtzlmlVv93K3fNT61f-7VVUM6yR6SsR1DDh20KpM_efc5Q2c43QQO4IhXRqNpESEHJ1upGZTSmZLa1CK6UF0-YYEboMrBeL5wjB2Qc7FW1JbQBDwGlztz8bOdVrvUS_JKdfSvQ-kCSf0/w200-h113/20150418_015354.jpg" /></a></div><br />These either bolt on to the end of the wing, or if you want to run SFGs, they bolt on the outside of those. I'de say try the plane both ways and make up your own mind which one you like better.<br /><br /><b>Fuselage</b><br />As you can see, there's lots and lots of mixed composite material here. Carbon stiffening rods run from the first former all the way to the tail, and the entire motorbox and battery is made from wood/composite laminate. All the formers from the firewall to the last former in the battery compartment are the same material. There's carbon reinforcement in critical high stress areas around the wing tube mount and anti rotation pin holes. If all the composite in this plane was pure carbon, none of us could afford this plane, but Extreme Flight uses G10 composite where carbon isn't strictly necessary to save weight and add strength.<br /><br /><br /><div style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://www.blogger.com/#"><img border="0" height="225" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhGwsBi6DsK-LD2x_IC7t9aP58nu57Q-Nu2rvWqnlMZ1GaEHHCuuuTIb0Mo1xd69B500RVaQUGrST6Op_8E7vpECoP5eu3oH5oBTEdtAZeyBb543zLEwDbSLJU2uKcgx-eIjFg1a4WqsYGL/w400-h225/20150418_014122.jpg" width="400" /></a></div><br /><br /><br /><div style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://www.blogger.com/#"><img border="0" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjUDoWgZ1OV9YzBc5ISgV3T1orF7bStrcLI5hrMJ9RhC7MBFQmrMOBd0mYHdxA3FChw93P7XRvwEHalS4jobwEooye3CEW3b2VgOOr31O-KFa5RkGFNtyQpWDOv5UHjDcrXxDL-wNiLOSdr/s320/20150418_014135.jpg" /></a></div><br />As seen on the Gamebird, the MXS features a composite ESC mounting tray.<br /><br /><div style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://www.blogger.com/#"><img border="0" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi5jnNEpF8KLALPJaFUj8aB3UboBCrSKT56DsBXvsTbG6hhCVbfFxodULVo0DRsqOvbsw2x-M_STYy3HLgbdc8vainDpMXmUlIlMxx5nVloe6MBytAT7zR1j0SOE7rHwzCOVVKB3PGvqE74/s320/ESC+Mounbt+001.jpg" /></a></div><br />Wing anti rotation pin mounts front and rear are also composite reinforced.<br /><br /><div style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://www.blogger.com/#"><img border="0" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgScVc8-m6v4ukiK-VaKlI_3z3Cs-a4WspUM4L93pnGwk0p3Ebdl0KV4Mdfw4UCeYUVgPjp7ZyJeJ8b9-6me3g6x-9FbV1U0GE0w8nR7g_-ZdecsNQ30lAtKmAUdDYgdCN8oI2qFRPDWkKq/s320/20150418_014339.jpg" /></a></div><br /><b>Hardware</b><br />There's not going to be a lot of glamor in this section because hardware ain't pretty, but it is crucial to use good stuff. The hardware package is virtually the same thing we have been using for over a decade on 60" EXP. It does it's job exceptionally well with reliability and durability that reduces maintenance to just inspecting and maybe a little tightening once in awhile.<br /><br /><br /><div style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://www.blogger.com/#"><img border="0" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgys_JaNt4_JP37cwYkzgHFTOlAut-DYwReBjgR7qj4VR3dPXYlLRoco9C1VeKsaf2UTjFKZjDRt6VLgoC68X49SmwVNWSkHWyqAyttSnif0JkayZg2Txt-kQIilfLRbhiAC3BbY3o1jLcs/w200-h113/20150418_015848.jpg" /></a><a href="https://www.blogger.com/#"><img border="0" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiR4sldrKohJITUzBIfHJ2uszE_iAOqOmDx1dSpkxyuPaxJB4-57BU4FuT7n6rGBTa4DjTXCR3FUDa1Zm39Pm5QnrjzOpJvFe7S4KKpuAABzTfKWBjWKcMESc9OVqYKJSuoqCzkVvPsbORt/w200-h113/20150418_020449.jpg" /></a></div><br /><br />The ball links and pushrod are unchanged from the stuff we have been using with so much success that it makes sense to carry over into this plane. The tailwheel assembly is also unchanged bar moving to a one piece machined aluminum tiller arm. That was the only area the unit could have been improved, and now it is.<br /><br />Mostly just install it and forget about it. It's not thrilling and it's not glamorous, with it does it's job and that's all you want from it anyway. It's just one more thing to put out of your mind when you are paying attention to you flying. Forget it and fly...it's not going to let you down.<br /><br /><b><span style="font-size: large;">Build</span></b><br /><br />I heartily recommend Ben Fisher's excellent new build video for the 60" EXP series. I've probably built over 100 EXPs, and I still learned a few valuable tricks watching this. The video makes everything crystal clear and easy to understand.<br /><br /><br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XY_lneZ4yk" target="_blank"><b><span style="font-size: large;">Extreme Flight 6S 60" Class Airframe Build Video - YouTube</span></b></a><br /><br /><br /><div style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://www.blogger.com/#"><img border="0" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhVeKlaBR_Z9y5z_9X5hmuHwTwjR0F4sOqFXkcKbofQzVbDv4NAAxEGEreCYg5qLHRmki6hhL4eFEDip_wDBksR1ESf766AsLl5S6FaZnGpwbb5yXVv5wycFd3737pFkgNtPijL6tRWvA1J/w640-h360/20150418_233215.jpg" /></a></div><br /><br /><div style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://www.blogger.com/#"><img border="0" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEicoVPWluAvtlDZgcF0IrymuO6P9BfOL0ONCMTSaJFBmyPHP_kAeiYf7f1h1BQkxX37Vr1p16n5puyt4QWCTa2E2YCdl04JEPTElTr9F7Hu7C4_6pEKV9sTCeosIVcfuSu-PxJzy-5s-7F_/w200-h113/20150418_233330.jpg" /></a><a href="https://www.blogger.com/#"><img border="0" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEicIRCS_6LIgTMUVJfKonYRtfHrFYIqfR7BhERoDXnK4OVDfF7zrZGhACEO6TVkdDMTgtOR8BgcHswfGna7_0qETFaZQCU5zJmIOWYkHfw69xw9eapM4ZVtnF2KvY30jyPSLrivLNEQoRuA/w200-h113/20150418_233323.jpg" /></a></div><br /><div style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://www.blogger.com/#"><img border="0" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEinXAG6Zd73EA971EACJ_9nZHJit3NVywVQduErhQajDLVRbxbM51ekuq6RXv-P8ZBfjYZL925mYsOIOm4lBlzio6w8mGjvOwtOWkahFdVfDJs0_5PBn5IqXlB3qIQH5tvWxuwGlKn1z90J/w400-h226/20150418_233251.jpg" /></a></div><br /><div style="text-align: center;"><b><span style="font-size: x-large;">FLYING</span></b></div><br />Here we are going to deviate from our usual format and delay the flying section of this report. It will only be a couple of days, but I'm getting old and can't do it in a single day any more. Patience, Grasshopper. We'll get it done.<br /><br />As of this writing, I only have a systems check of the plane in pretty windy conditions. So there's nothing etched in stone just yet other than the plane is exceptionally solid. Seems a little better in precision too, though we'll know more as soon as we start pushing the plane a little more. It's also very very clearly visible and easy to maintain orientation on. It also looks extremely bad ass in the air, so it's hard to get off to much better of as start than that.<br /><br />There's probably a lot more potential to unlock with subtle adjustments and certainly more as I learn the plane's limits. So far it's not too much different from the V1, though I don't remember that harrier manners being this good. <br /><br />Hard to say too much based off of one flight, but I do have extensive experience with the V1. I can tell you what to expect based off of experience with previous V2 reboots. The external aerodynamics remain unchanged because it was exactly what Extreme Flight wanted it to be already. The improvement is going to come from the lighter, stiffer construction. Like I have said, it's going to be livelier, smoother and more precise. We know that going in.<br /><br />The MXS is the shortest coupled (the distance from the wing to the stab) of all the 60" class EXPs, As such, it has much improved pitch authority, and therefore will be more agile in general, and in particular will snap and tumble better. This short coupling will give you super hard rotations in moves like parachutes and walls, as well as more pitch control at slower speeds. The MXS was always a terrific snap and tumbler, and I expect this will only be improved due to the V2's increased rigidity. The moment is still long enough to induce stability, so nothing is given up in performance here.</div><div style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><br /></div><div style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;">We did manage to get a short video of the installation flight and systems check. It's a little sloppy because the conditions were bad and I had a severe case of new plane paranoia, but it will give you an idea of how well the plane flies. If you compare to my other MXS V1 videos you can see harrier performance is definitely improved, partially from the weight reduction and partially because the plane is so stiff. </div><div style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;">
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://vimeo.com/493153685">MXS V2__First Day Out</a> from <a href="https://vimeo.com/user714849">Doc Austin</a> on <a href="https://vimeo.com">Vimeo</a>.</p></div><div style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;">While the MXS is not as graceful as the Extra (along with every other plane), it's not going to give much up in precision and big sky maneuvers. While biased a little more toward violent flying, the MXS will still do point and slow rolls as precisely as anything else, and only lags behind the Extra in how graceful it does everything. Then again, that's where the Extra stands alone. Most people are going to prefer the MXS' more aggressive nature for sport 3DXA, and precision pilots at going to like the Extra.</div><div style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><br />Good news for newer and sport pilots is the included beautifully built up wing tips take a little of the violence away, in addition to looking deadly cool. These slow the roll rate a little and mute tumbling a bit, but the trade off is you get a smoother flying, more gentle style of plane. The tips smooth out the turbulence coming off the SFGs and aid in better harrier, so if you want a more gentle and easy to fly plane this is a good option. Fly the plane both ways and make up your own minds.<br /><br />Is this the plane for everyone? Uhhhh, sort of, but I think newer pilots would be better off if they had something like an Edge under their belts first. The plane is easy to fly, but even with the tips it's still a really agile plane. You could probably learn how to 3D on this plane, but the easier path would be the Edge.<br /><br />We will have more on how the V2 in particular flies, so keep your eyes open over the next day or two.<br /><br /><div style="text-align: center;"><b style="font-size: xx-large;">POWER SYSYEM</b></div><br />So far my experience with the new Xpwr22 in my Edge has been all good. Power seems to be about the same, but I do get cooler temps and my batteries come down with about 0.5 more voltage. This is a good thing because these are expensive packs and leaving more margin will help them live and perform better.<br /><br />I'm looking forward to flying the Xpwr22 and having some new observations, but so far the motor has done it''s job so well I kind of forgot about it. It's smooth, powerful and reliable, so there wasn't much of anything different to say other than it sure is pretty.<br /><br />For now I will simply copy/paste the info from the last report and maybe talk about the motor more in the flight report. I just don't have enough time with the motor to know it's finer nuisances, but it's not a bad sign that the motor leaves me alone to think about the plane, and does it's job smoothly. <br /><br />Motor<br />There's a little bit of change here from what we've done in the past. Extreme Flight is upgrading their entire product lineup, so why not include the power systems? Extreme Flight's Xpwr division has recently released it's new Xpwr 22 out runner motor. Having flown on in the Edge, I'm really pleased with it and expect the same sort of satisfaction when flown in the MXS.<br /><br />The numbers look promising and excellent experience with Xpwr's 3910 leaves no room for anything but confidence. The Xpwr22 uses the same propeller selection and pulls roughly the same maximum amperage as the time proven 4016. So far it's been smoother, and runs cooler and quieter like the 3910 does. I don't think we really necessarily need any more power because the 4016 has more than enough, but the latest in design philosophy and advanced construction techniques is always a welcome plus.<br /><br />That, and it's a really nice looking motor.....<br /><br /><div style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://www.blogger.com/#"><img border="0" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhGRMWDYhgGRQr2acLmByKDMj71d4xvs1lK4dwhZ_gbj24H64yFHikkfuaxiQ0C_Cvwv3MTuU5QHtJw1ASyOgM0hdmP9xZDdfi6EBodCjE_FF-LDZLDbqZiRjHa8a4C33E3BGWyUkR4gz4T/w400-h225/20150102_182016+-+Copy.jpg" /></a></div><br />Specifications<br />Weight: 334 grams (including radial mount and prop adapter)<br />Length: 65mm (from rear of radial mount to front face of prop adapter)<br />Diameter: 49mm<br />KV: 500<br />Max Current: 80 Amp<br />Prop Shaft: 6mm<br />Pole Count: 14<br />Recommended Props: 16x7, 16x8, 17x6 wood or lightweight carbon electric props. We highly recommend the Xoar PJN series. Please avoid the heavier APC props in this size.<br /><br /><b>Speed Controller</b><br />No need to change anything here. The Airboss 80 has served us so well for over a decade that I count on it's simplicity and reliability. It comes pre-wired with a deans plug (which is what I use) and preprogrammed, so all you do is plug it in and go. One of the things I do as a preventative measure is to program every new Airboss to default. This almost always solves any rare problem you could have with an Airboss, so I just do it right out of the gate.<br /><br /><br /><div style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://www.blogger.com/#"><img border="0" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj5uvmgZqnK1CVgZSZwhbQTxslCwKprcPhN6oP0xV9lE3LPkG33-ZumId_LWN15vlzZE_VXATVuFA18mVJFCr8OGYrXLTXANwxtS9jbV67cEJWxLWjXaegpdob0r5JUUSwKssPINpKk_6on/w400-h183/airboss01%255B1%255D.jpg" /></a></div><br />The big plus of the Airboss is it's smooth, linear throttle response. It gives you exactly what you ask from it, and this makes throttle control much easier, and also easier to balance the plane in a maneuver with the power. Like the 3910 and 4016, the X22 is designed to work with the Airboss, so that's one less thing to worry about.<br /><br />Unchanged here is Airboss reliability. It's almost like hardware in that once you bolt the cowling on that's the last time you think about it. It does it's job with so little fuss you forget about it.<br /><br /><div style="text-align: center;"><b style="font-size: xx-large;">SET UP</b></div><br />If it ain't broke, don't fix it. All the hardware is the same, so the set up is going to look the same. This is a righteous thing because it's been used so many times before we already know it's going to work.<br /><br />As always, use the set up from the manual, especially the low rate, at least as a place to start. I only use two rates, the low and 3D rate from the manual. Unless you want to tumble the thing into in blur, more than that rate isn't necessary. I do run a little more elevator than that 3D rate, and a little slower aileron low rate, but the manual is always the best starting point. I use this formula on every plane I own.</div><div style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><br /></div><div style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><b>Ailerons</b><br />Here I use the 7/8th ProModeler PDRS101 25 tooth arm. This gives me about 31-33 degrees of aileron travel which suits my flying well without being too touchy. I use Dubro 2 X 12mm allen bolts with a lock and jam nut on both the servo arm and the control arm. There's enough thread left so you can put a dab of medium CA on there to lock it all together. I think it would take a nuclear holocausts to make it come apart, but you can easily spin the jam nut off and shatter the glue if you want to make a change.<br /><br /><br /><div style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://www.blogger.com/#"><img border="0" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjBT_BD7eiWgdlQr4mAfqepY92esR4t21vPAP41prctAOfls1Rgxvr6R60TrQuQ1jty2fIx5y-nBPcAdQa0pltttcBgOAXQJoa9Ibji9ThL4z6jTnQgz_SOoA1Zb4JiTB1RL-dwYqyvgPdH/w400-h225/Aileron+Set+Up+002.jpg" /></a></div><br /><b>Rudder</b><br />Also, the PDRS101 arm. Using most of my available end point adjustment I got exactly the throw I am after.<br /> <br /><div style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://www.blogger.com/#"><img border="0" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjkSwho-tzJ3_RcQVxM5McHd9hbxGmrL1nYRxeQ-nHA6z60s2ganzw8Ifft0GNT2RwxU5Ls6pqVK5PbyTi-4-qRnJYFraYPqab_7zkNFCt821iQ3npLrMUAoLr6ihO6WCQftccwrrzZfd3u/w400-h225/Rudder+Set+Up+003.jpg" /></a></div><br /><b>Elevator</b><br />I love the Xessories 1.25" arm for this. In addition to the bolt that secures the arm, There is a cinch bolt that clamps the spline tight against the output shaft. This not only eliminates any potential slop, by it really locks the arm down and minimized the possibility it could fall off if you lose (or forget) the retaining bolt.<br /><br /><br /><div style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://www.blogger.com/#"><img border="0" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjEVQ9IaNjiqOC-Mc_fqQK_5a7V4CoVJ3L16FkQh0SmkqisHLXMpzKwrbUPhpdyxmVWzDiBtDRbcPMYJ8jXnYXGpd9Fy8_yMOBxIIY3WRbXEB1X0ueOdwN-rpeN4T8D6aDfFvvviR9csxlu/w400-h225/20150418_220812.jpg" /></a></div><br /><br /><div style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://www.blogger.com/#"><img border="0" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjclPB98USy16k-79LjYeCYxevezVreWA3RjCGkvG9uEtod1R_uiX3rXki_1OUyGHAznUMxifsIUKrbzjc2bnF9bQCMeex7mpbxc6vVJ2ig9sPwIyUumIzO8XbO6oxPJvUUBevfvvHQ9H2Y/w200-h112/20150418_221101.jpg" /></a><a href="https://www.blogger.com/#"><img border="0" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEghJ7jZdlc9GGtfvo9GTo2QzckG9u_paKGbQ5iu3mCI54B7yv-T77wj5bKUNDDeXeKyCFpHngdHW8ae4ClbrIcRdvGQkRSw7RyIyH1jtUgfmPU8p1FQigm4h7YnvF3uFV4N-Z5a-SMm2rFx/w200-h112/20150418_221106.jpg" /></a></div></div><div style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><br /></div><div style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em; text-align: center;"><a href="https://www.blogger.com/#"><img border="0" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgZTULFuSsccKgm4JVc2e6lC4tcMDjbGTIAFUw9ODhXjJMXkzqi3EWwfrX5oHC63DePeMPapnGYCCUtreLVqC5hXplpn4VdJdGI6oG79niFHyAbP1lkIvT3oUmdHYQx4iCJHuCu2u00wePU/w400-h224/20150418_221111.jpg" /></a> </div><br /><br /><a href="https://www.blogger.com/#"><img border="0" height="360" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiA1m0Q62tZnWNHmu8MHtdNZcVzx3xfEhaj-2si3qsZsun8I0eGcUdUMIudXIciyq_Pu5MwoI_SonEDrOg51rwr292-73UxWr4IeQNtyC-8R21lSiGjMGXuapXGFMgk4NOdh80YbwxbaKGi/w640-h360/60+MXS+V2+Video+Artwork__004.jpg" width="640" /></a><div><br /></div>Doc Austinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09358924159613442642noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2245334704739395263.post-61580105251117257722020-12-06T02:04:00.008-05:002020-12-06T10:39:40.068-05:00Extreme Flight 64" MXS EXP V2__First look<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgwP_0R1D2SsBDR90Vd1Q6GEN-aLyUelGJNr61IcGMNrclvjXm0g01qtZO03T0KtsevTmk1URNPJfErO9EUrX7wvMLKD6qlzy2qeg5yqg_uVv5bIQrTr7XuodE2kXnzC5iq33PSIzjfRFR-/s2048/60+MXS+V2+Video+Artwork__001.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1152" data-original-width="2048" height="225" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgwP_0R1D2SsBDR90Vd1Q6GEN-aLyUelGJNr61IcGMNrclvjXm0g01qtZO03T0KtsevTmk1URNPJfErO9EUrX7wvMLKD6qlzy2qeg5yqg_uVv5bIQrTr7XuodE2kXnzC5iq33PSIzjfRFR-/w400-h225/60+MXS+V2+Video+Artwork__001.jpg" width="400" /></a></div><br /><div><br /></div>The 64" MXS V2 is finally here. 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We've been looking forward to this plane for a long time. The Edge has always been almost everyone's first love, and the plane to learn 3D with, but there's a lot more than just that. <br />
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The Edge is also extremely capable of balls out 3D, as well as high speed precision. While the Edge is good at everything, it's strongest attributes are more tailored toward 3D, but it still has an excellent overall balance. It's pretty much a plane everyone has to have. You can start 3D with the Edge and hone your craft, but you won't grow out of it like you did with your basic trainer. Even the most advanced pilots still love the Edge.<br />
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The 60" V1 is still near the top of the food chain in the 60" class, but like it's sister in the lineup, the Extra EXP V1, the newest construction techniques and materials opened a lot of room for improvement. The big V2 reboot machine just keeps on rolling and giving us better planes. New construction techniques and materials now give us a stronger, lighter, stiffer airframe that stays tighter, last longer, and flies better. You can read more about the Edge's new construction in 60" Edge V2__Unfair Advantage Optimized.<br />
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This article will deviate from our formula a little in that we will talk about the V2's improved flying first. Since it's still an Edge, and still has the same character, we will reprint similar information from the V1 initial tests. The V2 is still the same plane, only optimized to fly better.</p><p>
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</p><p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://vimeo.com/642033874">Edge V2__Top Of The Food Chain.mp4</a> from <a href="https://vimeo.com/user714849">Doc Austin</a> on <a href="https://vimeo.com">Vimeo</a>.</p>
<b>V2 Improves The Flight</b><br />
Here's where we found the big Lebowski. We have seen how the V2 treatment has transformed planes like the 48" and 60" Extra EXP, so it was no surprise that the Edge benefited from this just as much. Here we're going to break down how the V2 package improves every area of performance. You will notice the one recurring theme is how the stronger V2 mixed composite materials make for a better flying plane.<br />
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<b>Stability</b><br />
No surprise here because the basic airframe stays pretty close to the same. The Edge has always been notorious for it's faultless harrier manners, and here the V2 is a little better. Some of this comes from the lighter weight, but we're also dealing with a stiffer airframe that maintains it's alignment better. With time wood will flex, and this will make the airplane less precise. While this is mega essential for flying precision maneuvers, it's also essential in 3D. Stiffness keeps the plane aligned, staying straight and tracking like it's on a rail. <br />
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Harrier performance is slightly improved, but honestly, there wasn't much more to find here as the V1 was pretty close to perfect. Still, the Edge does cleaner harrier than any of the other 60s, though the Gamebird offers a good challenge in that area to the V2.<br />
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Mostly it's like the old one in that it's got superb stability with no wing rock. I did not expect a monumental improvement, but we did get some. It's hard to improve on what we used to think was perfect, but here it is. The rigid construction on this plane keeps the plane aligned, and high speed tracking goes off the scale. The new Edge will do high speed precision on a level with the Extra, which is widely considered to be the king here.<br />
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<p></p><p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://vimeo.com/459790233">Extreme Flight Edge EXP V2 First Flights 2</a> from <a href="https://vimeo.com/user714849">Doc Austin</a> on <a href="https://vimeo.com">Vimeo</a>.<span><span><strong> </strong></span></span></p><p><span><span><strong> Precision<br />
</strong>With all the composite reinforcement in critical high stress areas, there is no flexing under any condition. Any time a plane flexes, it can come out of perfect alignment, which screws up your tracking. This has been minimized a little more with each new V2. You might not think precision are high stress maneuvers, but most of the time it's at high speed with a ton of air going over the plane. That in itself is a lot of stress and a stiff plane especially comes into play here.<br />
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Point and slow rolls are much more crisp because the plane just grooves through all of it. While the Edge's one shortcoming was that it was a little behind the others in this area, that's all but been erased. Still, you're never going to challenge the Extra for being graceful doing what it does best, but it's so close now that the trade off for a little better 3D is justified.<br />
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Big sky stuff in general is so much easier because you are never fighting the plane and it's never fighting you. I like to complement the Extra for it's point and shoot nature, but the Edge is almost right there with it.</span></span></p><p><span></span></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><strong style="text-align: left;">Snaps, spins, etc.</strong></div><p><span><span>
Here the super stiff airframe make the plane very lively, but in a very controlled way.Again, the stiff construction keeps the airplane straight, especially under the kind of stress we are putting them through now days. Like this you can control the entries and exit of your snaps and spins better. You can pin point your exit better, which looks better than thrashing around and waiting to see which way it comes out. Hard to consider tumbles a precision maneuver, but with the new planes it's becoming that.<br />
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The straight LE (leading edge) of the wing doesn't allow snaps to be as precise as a triple taper wing, but the Edge is still so good here it's just a matter of adapting and timing things a little differently. Like with my other Edges, after flying other planes, I can dial myself back into this airplane in about a half a pack. It's not a big thing. It's just what the pilot is for.</span></span></p><p><span></span></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><span><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg-JHaFdhndJZZrr1AornyjUKEiux8_ofUinpprhqIiuoD5vuPX5CGmP-MaWVs54g8ZvS0TxNd2v_MKOYkmQ4xEzIEjKaNyflzLxQNgyZj4ih-8-EDF6_mKv3c-POnQbSR7j3nbl3iFmM4y0VFVaSTayQc4qMMgjQoChxDMO-T7J999BKAUQOd4cXEg5g/s3264/60%20Eddsge%20V2__086.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1836" data-original-width="3264" height="360" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg-JHaFdhndJZZrr1AornyjUKEiux8_ofUinpprhqIiuoD5vuPX5CGmP-MaWVs54g8ZvS0TxNd2v_MKOYkmQ4xEzIEjKaNyflzLxQNgyZj4ih-8-EDF6_mKv3c-POnQbSR7j3nbl3iFmM4y0VFVaSTayQc4qMMgjQoChxDMO-T7J999BKAUQOd4cXEg5g/w640-h360/60%20Eddsge%20V2__086.jpg" width="640" /></a></span></div><span><br /></span><div class="separator" style="clear: both;"><span><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhhB374jRp-avvtBPDmGvnmOFI_Qpfs-Oh0_uVLvfokBxRivw6d9-2a51bdniQpvvN_VQEj9XT7xLW97TeX8pUTwHNBIVGOdlO1qW6MnNSAII1SDw7tRNK7FJCWQpgkr2i-PCq6sbaBGKh0RBY9vwAF0e7wSg0KCdLMsguK9aiOdSqxBz6QnAHz2Q2e7w/s3264/60%20Eddsge%20V2__087.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1836" data-original-width="3264" height="113" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhhB374jRp-avvtBPDmGvnmOFI_Qpfs-Oh0_uVLvfokBxRivw6d9-2a51bdniQpvvN_VQEj9XT7xLW97TeX8pUTwHNBIVGOdlO1qW6MnNSAII1SDw7tRNK7FJCWQpgkr2i-PCq6sbaBGKh0RBY9vwAF0e7wSg0KCdLMsguK9aiOdSqxBz6QnAHz2Q2e7w/w200-h113/60%20Eddsge%20V2__087.jpg" width="200" /></a><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj8idYc9-SoiSTS-VEQTLI_JfaqoV1YRb4r6LpdQ5tdHVZnLWkLaaIm6sVd3vhnC-OeFH2wKbHh1eJwHbpzXaprmD8b9lX3b8UKfB5ztgnW4V8fAeRZhD4k3WCj0EMppnNkal2nozo0DnmlTLv--ZCzySzQ9Qz0991Y8yCBqRXdxWfJg8qUtNE-tE-o6A/s3264/60%20Eddsge%20V2__088.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1836" data-original-width="3264" height="113" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj8idYc9-SoiSTS-VEQTLI_JfaqoV1YRb4r6LpdQ5tdHVZnLWkLaaIm6sVd3vhnC-OeFH2wKbHh1eJwHbpzXaprmD8b9lX3b8UKfB5ztgnW4V8fAeRZhD4k3WCj0EMppnNkal2nozo0DnmlTLv--ZCzySzQ9Qz0991Y8yCBqRXdxWfJg8qUtNE-tE-o6A/w200-h113/60%20Eddsge%20V2__088.jpg" width="200" /></a></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div></span>Spins are great. You can either spin it with right/right/down (or left/left/down) and the plane will point nearly straight down spinning merrily around. The best part is it looks scary, but as soon as you let off the stick the plane will absolutely stop, and then you just apply power and fly it out. People are afraid to try this, but once they do it a couple of times it just becomes natural.</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both;">You can also stall the plane and use up full up elevator and full rudder to flatten the spin out. You can whip it around even faster with a little power and opposite aileron, and if you let off the elevator it will flatten out even more. You can speed the spin up or down by switching the elevator from full up to full down, but be careful that you don't have so much fun with this that you forget the ground is coming up.</div><p></p><p><span><span>Conventional snaps are very good, and with proper timing very precise. It's not quite as precise as the Extra, but it's close enough most guys won't notice.<br />
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As far as tumbles. the Edge is better than all but the MXS. If you play it right you can toss the nose over the tail, which is a signature move of the Slick. Even with my V1, I could get a back flip out of it but the V2 is just that little bit more lively.<br />
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The Edge has always been the knife edge spin king. You don't even need to get the entry right, though it looks better when you do. I like to use an outside snap and carry the momentum into the spin, but if you just hold the stick in the right place and add a little power, it will thrash around and eventually fall into it all on it's own. Where the Edge looks really good in this is that you can use an embarrassingly small amount of power and the thing will whip around even harder than at full throttle. Of course, the full throttle noise is half the fun, but the low throttle KE spin is a thing of beauty.<br />
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Mostly everything is just better because the plane is stiffer and stresses won't twist it out of alignment. I can pretty much repeat this about every area of performance and it would apply.</span></span></p><iframe allow="autoplay; fullscreen" allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="360" src="https://player.vimeo.com/video/459790309" width="640"></iframe>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://vimeo.com/459790309">Extreme Flight Edge EXP V2 First Flights</a> from <a href="https://vimeo.com/user714849">Doc Austin</a> on <a href="https://vimeo.com">Vimeo</a>.</p><p><span><span><strong> 3</strong><span><span><span><strong>D</strong><br />
Of course the lighter weight helps. Mostly everything seems tighter and more precise. The plane just feels good. It's stable, and agile enough to let you stay ahead of the plane. I think it's going to help guys improve their 3D.<br />
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From here, we're going to reprint the flight report for the V1. The two Edge's basic nature is very much alike. They fly about the same except the V2 does everything a little better.</span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span><span><span><span><span></span></span></span></span></span></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><span><span><span><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjtZFexid-iUGeSUJY-pbQpMDWszD_hd3uv-5p2hJbjQMz6rQ7i-dFyWrL8LgB8NNftNyJ7QU0Qlyn5lk6JRi8pkwAAJvkAIMnplvXfXAI6cDRXh4TB0VqEODlkXmH90s9z23_1aGTpx_aQ/s2048/60+Eddsge+V2__005.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1152" data-original-width="2048" height="360" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjtZFexid-iUGeSUJY-pbQpMDWszD_hd3uv-5p2hJbjQMz6rQ7i-dFyWrL8LgB8NNftNyJ7QU0Qlyn5lk6JRi8pkwAAJvkAIMnplvXfXAI6cDRXh4TB0VqEODlkXmH90s9z23_1aGTpx_aQ/w640-h360/60+Eddsge+V2__005.jpg" width="640" /></a></span></span></span></div><span><span><span><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1152" data-original-width="2048" height="113" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEioBAOws_gBZEd9zCduXfCkybIxVPekCS0f07QR-gLJzxLhb4SfoV1-9f228ARqiXOYXFUrn9lVYG0MJYQnc-TNRXnuG2uzAafRuMzZWfnF8bS0KgQlwAzv-RFnHf3lKBx4tNxhLryRkGSw/w200-h113/60+Eddsge+V2__022.jpg" style="text-align: left;" width="200" /><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhAvxJaR4ZSEea-1JcpyWyxfXlaahQ4CueLVPPP0qlFYbgPH4bVLHnRxRPHhusWL41IonQPMakmWSTUJ7YsVq88nSqYA1GXn9BhsfpGFtlw7_W87D1FYF6tdCk0RskeCCqiJ_nfIKpjHMyp/s2048/60+Eddsge+V2__038.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1152" data-original-width="2048" height="113" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhAvxJaR4ZSEea-1JcpyWyxfXlaahQ4CueLVPPP0qlFYbgPH4bVLHnRxRPHhusWL41IonQPMakmWSTUJ7YsVq88nSqYA1GXn9BhsfpGFtlw7_W87D1FYF6tdCk0RskeCCqiJ_nfIKpjHMyp/w200-h113/60+Eddsge+V2__038.jpg" width="200" /></a></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: right;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: justify;"><b>V1 Reprint</b></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: justify;"><span style="text-align: left;">The more we try to stick to the format, the more we are forced to change! We have previously published so much information on the 60" Edge V1 that it would be impossible not to repeat a lot of it. Rather than </span><span style="text-align: left;">plagiarize previous work, it's more honest to just copy/paste it and label it reprint. So.</span></div></span></span></span><p></p><p style="text-align: left;"><span><span><span><span><span>
The Edge's secret is the straight LE (leading edge) of it's wing. This goes a long way toward killing off wing rock, which we will get into a little later. In super hard pitch rotations the LE minimizes tip stall, which is a nasty condition of one wing tip stalling before the other. As you can imagine, with one wing flying and the other not, the plane is not often going to go where you are pointing it. With the Edge, you can slam it into a wall or a parachute or just turn it so hard that other planes would snap out, yet the Edge totally maintains it's composure.</span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span><span><span><span><span>Before I explain wing rock, let me say this is a phenomenon that does not even remotely affect the Edge. This invulnerability to wing rock is the Edge's biggest single strength and what makes is so easy to fly, especially in 3D alpha flight.<br />
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The hardest part of learning to harrier (first step of learning 3D) is dealing with wing rock. This is when one wing stalls and recovers, and then the other does the same thing until the wings rock back and forth, getting worse with each rock until the plane just sort of goes off wherever it wants to go. A really bad plane will simply stall one wing completely, snap roll out and spin into the ground. A little wing rock is harmless compared to that, but you still don't want any because it just looks sloppy, which is something few of us aspire to.</span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span><span><span><span><span><span>The Edge just refuses to wing rock at all. I have even flown mine without the SFGs (side force generators) and it was absolutely dead solid in harrier without any trace of harrier rock. Sometimes I will just harrier the Edge around for a whole flight because it is so much fun and so little stress, but the Edge always impresses everyone watching. People are impressed with smooth flying, and the Edge does smooth harrier so well that it is by far most of my friend's favorite all around plane. Even my students who have moved on to more challenging planes still keep an Edge around because they are so sweet. I've got three of them right now. </span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span><span><span><span><span><span>T<span><span><span><span><span><span><span><span>he Edge's other trump card is it's ability to do easy, controlled and smooth elevator drop maneuver. I start my students with this first because it teaches them basic harrier skills. An elevator drop is simply stalling the airplane deeply and holding in elevator, allowing the plane to sink belly first in an almost straight down line. You have to play the elevator, rudder, ailerons (minimally) and throttle to steer the plane, keep it level and control the rate of descent, but doing all of these things from the safety of higher altitude teaches you a lot in a hurry. Once you get a good elevator going it is simply a matter of adding a little power so the plane moves forward, and then you have a harrier going! Most of my students transition from doing elevator drops into harrier flight just by my telling them to add a little power, and then they get it all figured out pretty quickly.</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span><span><span><span><span><span><span><span><span><span><span><span><span><span><span><span><span><span><span><span><span><span>
The Edge also does high violence maneuvers very well. It does beautiful pops tops and KE (knife edge) spins. In fact, all you do in a KE spin is lock the controls in the right position and watch the nose flop over the tail again and again. Entry is not even that critical. With the Edge, KE spins are almost automatic.<br />
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Snaps both inside and out are really crisp, though the straight LE does make hitting them perfectly a bit more difficult than flying a triple tapered wing. Of course, with a simple adjustment to your timing (flying style) you can still get razor precise snaps. It is just when you jump back and forth from one EXP to another that you might notice this. When I fly my Edges a lot the difference just seems to sort of disappear because I adapt to it.<br />
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In the 48: size, the Edge gives up a little bit of precision to it's other EXP siblings, but again, you can make up for a lot of this simply by adjusting your technique. However, the 60" Edge is so smooth, solid and locked in that this margin is much, much smaller. The big Edge does really smooth slow rolls, point rolls and consecutive rolls. With a good pilot you would never know the Edge is not quite as precise as something like the Extra EXP, just because it is that damm good.<br />
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KE flight is also really excellent, though because of the straight LE you give up just a little yaw authority at high speed. This is not much of a problem at all because it's simply a flying adjustment. You just use more stick and the problem never was.<br />
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As you can see in the video, the Edge EXP does everything really, really well, and it's 3D manners are unparalleled for learning 3D or for flying all 3D all the time, while still having excellent precision manners. The Edge is a most excellent choice.</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><span><span><span><span><span><span><span><span><span><span><span><span><span><span><span><span><span><span><span><span><span><span><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><strong style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="900" data-original-width="1600" height="360" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiTYoldax-Ia8-TPrKz6GINcG99du-Bpp_fT7BDQ1opTHaCsjSIBX38DOaQzIH8irDtxBwJ1gg_WVQx40yfDsTwm9gOvTjhbFfwaTDHl_3RsAUJ9GTc4QCiepVU7S9WfwjvRZBdLPdHSO18/w640-h360/60+Edge+V2+Video+Artwork+004.jpg" width="640" /></strong></div><p style="text-align: center;"><strong>
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The V2 reboot continues to reinvent the Extreme Flight ands 3DHS lineups, and this time one of the most beloved EXPs is being swept up and redefined. Edges have long been just about everyone's favorite for their gentle near and post stall manners. The Edge is widely renowned for being an excellent 3D trainer, as well as an all out 3DXA beast. The Edge is often called the unfair advantage because it's stability, mild manners and extreme capability is, well...….the unfair advantage.</div>
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Most people view it as the best of all worlds, and I think that's a fair characterization. There's a lot more to the Edge than just being a nice, smooth, stable, easy airplane that will ease the new pilot's path into 3D, but let's start with that. The Edge is universally accepted to be the best plane to start 3D with because of it's inherent near and post stall stability. When it comes to harrier flight, the Edge is the standard which the others are judged by. With harrier being the building block of all 3D flight, this makes the Edge the obvious choice for newer pilots. </div>
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Where the Edge differs from other sorts of 3D "trainers" is that this stability hardly compromises it's aerobatic ability. The Edge can do conventional and precision maneuvers with the near grace of the Extra, which is the queen of precision and grace, all while being able to smoothly fly around post stall or otherwise wrap itself up in snaps and tumbles. The performance is very well rounded with the bias a little more toward 3D than precision. While nothing is going to challenge the Extra in precision flight, the Edge doesn't really give up a lot here and does big sky stuff really well. The Edge does everything well and performs post stall flight exceptionally well. This makes the Edge the kind of plane everyone needs in their arsenal.</div>
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The Edge EXP is a lot like the 48" Extra EXP in that it was so close to perfect to begin with that all that was really required was updating it to the latest construction techniques and materials. Liberal use of carbon and mixed composites makes the Edge lighter, stronger, stiffer and better flying than ever before.</div>
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The original Edge EXP was one of the first planes to feature mixed composite construction with extensive use of Carbon and G10 composite materials. At the time this was very advanced thinking. Now, at least for Extreme Flight planes, it's just part of the package and how things are done.</div>
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You find pictures of the kit entire kit in <a href="http://docaustinextreme.blogspot.com/2020/08/extreme-flight-edge-exp-v2first-look.html" target="_blank"><strong>Extreme Flight Edge EXP V2__First Look</strong> </a>.</div>
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You can see the motorbox uses G10 composite and wood laminate construction on top, bottom, firewall and sides. This is much stronger and somewhat lighter than mere wood construction. From there, the formers all the way to the tail use the same composite laminate. </div>
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G10 composite reinforces to top, bottom, an sides of the motorbox, as well as the firewall and it's mountings. The top piece run all the way back to the end of the canopy. This stiffens the entire structure considerably.</div>
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While this makes the plane much stronger, just as critically, it also makes the fuselage extremely stiff, which carries it's own advantages. A stiffer motorbox transfers more of the energy to the propeller instead of wasting it by flexing. It might seem like you are getting more power, but it is more like <strong><em>all</em></strong> of it is put to better effect. </div>
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There are also carbon rods running the full length along the bottom and side of the fuselage that add to strength and stiffness. The stiffer fuselage also allows less flexing and twisting of the wing and stabilizer mounts, and this keeps the plane in better alignment during high G maneuvers like snaps and tumbles. This allows better control entering and pinpoint accuracy exiting these maneuvers. Also enhanced are the plane's precision manners because a plane that stays in alignment tracks much better.</div>
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There are some lightness benefits to using this construction, but the real pay off is you get a stronger, stiffer, better flying, longer lasting airframe. G10 and carbon composite materials are also used around the high stress wing tube mounts, as well as the anti rotation pin holes. Anywhere there is high stress or high wear, it's reinforced with these materials. The top rails of the battery compartment are an extension of the top motorbox piece, and that runs all the way back to the rear of the compartment. As well as adding stiffness, you're less likely to bust those rails out (and we've all done it) changing out the battery.</div>
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The Edge also features Extreme Flight's new quick wing attachment mechanism as first seem on the Gamebird. With the simple flip of a lever the wings either lock on, or flipped the other way, release to allow it to slide off. It's an ingenious and simple little device that works beautifully well. Sometimes in Florida the weather rolls in so fast you don't have time to get all the gear apart and loaded before you get soaked, but with this system you can have the wings off and it's all ready to jam into the car in about 10 seconds. </div>
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The previous version of this wing mounting system (as seen on the Gamebird) worked beautifully. It used a nylon bolt where you now see the metal. It worked fine but there was always that fear the bolt could back out. Of course it could not, but Extreme Flight eliminated that fear with a steel bolt and (for lack of a better term) a jam nut. You tighten the bolt until the wing is snug against the fuselage, remove, and then turn the nut down onto the wing and this locks it in place. </div>
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You may have to tinker with the adjustment a but to get the wing snug, but not so tight that the latch is hard to close, but it only takes minutes and then it's done forever. On the Gamebird we were using white glue to secure the nylon bolt, but then you gave up adjustability. With the new steel bolt, it's secure and with the twist of a wrench it's ready to adjust.</div>
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A relatively new feature to the EXP lineup is the self aligning horizontal stabilizer. This works so extremely well that we are already taking it for granted, as if the planes should have always been made like this anyway. Installing and aligning the stabilizer used to be the most high stress part of the build, as well as the most critical, but now that has been reduced to making sure you slide the stab as far forward as you can get it, and then gluing it. The flat LE of the stab at the center seats against the flat face of the stab saddle and perfect alignment is assured. I still like to measure the alignment, strictly to appease my own OCD, but now I spend about a half hour less tinkering with things to get it right. </div>
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You can see the leading edge of the stabilizer is flat. This flat from butts up against the little alignment piece you see at the front of the stabilizer saddle. The trick is to get the stabilizer slid all the way forward and perfect alignment is assured.</div>
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Next are the old school 3DHS wheel pants with a notched recess on the inside to align it with the gear leg. Looking inside the pant, you can see the plywood reinforcement around the mounting. I usually run a little CA around that block to make sure it's in there solid.</div>
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One really nice feature is the extra long receiver mount plate. This not only allows a place to mount your receiver, but also your gyro. It's a nice rigid plate and saves me from having to add a tray myself. This is better than I could do it anyway, so for me this works really well.</div>
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Continuity is key, especially when you are starting with good equipment to begin with. This is basically the same hardware package we've been using since the original 60" Edge EXP. A few pieces like the tailwheel assembly have been refined, but mostly it's the same stuff we have trusted for a decade.</div>
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Oh, it's solid, beautifully turned out stuff. The best part is it's probably the most bulletproof stuff on the plane. We've been using these ball links for over a decade too, and the wheels and axles about the same amount of time. We've been using the same carbon landing gear sets for so long that we almost never talk about them. They work so well that there's not much to say except they are made so nicely and work so well. </div>
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I especially like the tailwheel assembly because those always take a beating if you do harrier landings, or worse, bad landings. Extreme Flight's tight little unit uses a one piece machined aluminum tiller arm, and carbon frame. It's lightweight and strong. If you do manage to tear one up, you can replace the entire thing in about a minute. It's mounted with three screws, and if you have a problem you just bolt on a new one. The only trick to using this unit is to make sure you grind some flat spots on the tailwheel wire where the tiller arm seats. This will keep the wire from turning in the arm. Same thing with the wheel collars too. </div>
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Here I use the 1" ProModeler PDSR101 arm, though the ball link is in the second hole from the outside, which is 7/8" from center. This gives me roughly 31-33 degrees of travel, which is what I've been using on my 60s all along. Any more and I have trouble flying smoothly, but there is sure a lot more throw available.</div>
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There's a little bit of change here from what we've done in the past. Extreme Flight is upgrading their entire product lineup, so why not include the power systems? Extreme Flight's Xpwr division has recently released it's new Xpwr 22 out runner motor. As of this writing we haven't flown it yet, but the numbers look promising and excellent experience with Xpwr's 3910 leaves no room for anything but confidence.</div>
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We'll have to get some numbers on it once we have it in the plane, but it uses the same propeller selection and pulls roughly the same maximum amperage as the time proven 4016. Then we'll have a little better handle on knowing it's performance, but it's probably going to be smoother, and run cooler and quieter like the 3910 does. I don't think we really necessarily need any more power because the 4016 has more than enough, but the latest in design philosophy and advanced construction techniques is always a welcome plus. </div>
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Weight: 334 grams (including radial mount and prop adapter)</div>
Length: 65mm (from rear of radial mount to front face of prop adapter)<br />
Diameter: 49mm<br />
KV: 500<br />
Max Current: 80 Amp<br />
Prop Shaft: 6mm<br />
Pole Count: 14<br />
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Recommended Props: 16x7, 16x8, 17x6 wood or lightweight carbon electric props. We highly recommend the Xoar PJN series. <u>Please avoid the heavier APC props in this size.</u> </div>
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No need to change anything here. The Airboss 80 has served us so well for over a decade that I count on it's simplicity and reliability. It comes pre-wired with a deans plug (which is what I use) and preprogrammed, so all you do is plug it in and go. One of the things I do as a preventative measure is to program every new Airboss to default. This almost always solves any rare problem you could have with an Airboss, so I just do it right out of the gate.</div>
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Extreme Flight's 60" Edge V2 is finally here. This blog post will be photos of just the kit, but we'll be back with a full kit and flight review in a day or two.<br />
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The biggest dilemma I faced with Extreme Flight's new 48" Extra EXP V2 was never whether or not to get one (or even two). That was never in question. The hard part was always going to be giving up my much beloved Extra V1s.</div>
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I built my first 48" Extra EXP V1 in the fall of 2010, and have since been through a string of them. Some of this was due to poor flying, and there were a couple I just flat wore out. This quickly became my go-to plane for a myriad of reasons, ranging from affordable costs, to sheer, utter convenience, and familiarity.</div>
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In the beginning, all the EXPs were brand new beasts to me. It was nice that the build and set up was extremely similar to the 3DHS planes I had been flying, right down to the numbers in the manual. As such, I set them up like the manual called for and got down to business. From there I learned to trust the plane pretty quickly, instantly almost, and after that it was just a matter of learning every little nuance of the plane's character, and then tying to fly it better. Still working on that last part, but the plane itself has never held me back.</div>
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As always, the most important aspect was always going to be the flying, and the V2 is even better than what has always been my best flying plane. The Extra EXP is sort of a second skin that fits like an old slipper. Mostly though, it just flies damm good. I've got a lot of nice planes, but when I go to load up the car, sometimes I have to fight the instinct to grab the Extra instead of my of the other planes that need some love. If there is any problem with this plane at all, it's that you'll want to fly it all the time.</div>
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<strong>Enter The V2</strong></div>
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The Extra EXP was entering it's second decade. Construction technique and materials have progressed a long way in that time so it was ready for an update. Aerobatic airplane color schemes have progressed a lot too from the old ways and people always want the latest and greatest. The Extra V1 was becoming a little dated when compared to some of the wild new schemes and people were ready for something new.</div>
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The new white/orange/two tone blue scheme is a scale representation of Jim Bourke's full size Extra. It is visually striking, both top and bottom. I see white really well, especially when coupled with bright oranges and lighter blues. </div>
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The yellow is also extremely visible and just as attractive. We'll have pictures and video later in the article.</div>
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While it was painful to let my V1s go, the V2 has been so superb that I really haven't missed them. Almost everything I loved about the V1 is still there, with a lot things greatly improved. The V2 construction yields a lighter, stiffer, stronger airframe that flies better and can sustain more abuse without damage. I'm sure you can destroy one, but in this respect it's probably a lot like the 52" V2s ...... you really have to pound it in to do much damage. </div>
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<a href="https://vimeo.com/431086604">Extra EXP V2__More V2 Abuse</a> from <a href="https://vimeo.com/user714849">Doc Austin</a> on <a href="https://vimeo.com/">Vimeo</a>.</div>
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I was skeptical the V1 could be improved very much, but as soon as I opened the box I was sold. The most obvious improvement is, of course, all that beautiful composite. Taking the fuselage out of the bag I could already feel the lightness, so this was a great way to start off. </div>
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The build was greatly simplified with Extreme Flight's exclusive self jigging stabilizer. You simply slide the horizontal stabilizer all the way forward and it automatically self aligns. I've built a bunch of planes with this system, and they have all been perfect. I still measure them to be sure, but now I don't have to fiddle with it any at all, Just measure a couple of times and then glue it. This cuts about an hour out of the build time simply because I don't have to go all OCD on the alignment. </div>
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Also worthy of note is how the factory has stepped up the quality of finish on these planes. The 60s have always been just that one step nicer than the 48s because they came later as the factory got better and better. The 52s were the first to reach that level, and now the 48s are just as good. I've built just about everything in Extreme Flight's 48-50" range and this Extra is as nice as any of them. They go together straight and easy, and the finished build is very satisfying to show off at the field.</div>
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Unchanged is the 48" convenience, affordability and pragmatism. For a lot of reasons, these plane make the most sense to me. First, they are extremely reasonably priced, especially if you buy the plane and power system as a combo. That alone saves you $75. </div>
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Servos are always a hot topic, but you can still use the Hitec HS65MG, which works well for sport 3DXA. However, for outer limits hard core flying, you're better off with an 8 volt mega servo. More speed, more torque and better centering are all great things to have and worth the investment. There are several choices here, and the servo I prefer can be had for $45, which isn't much more.</div>
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In my view, this is the most affordable high quality, high performance plane you can get. Go with the premium servos and a good stability system, and you'll have an intergalactic starship. Bigger planes are the rage, but with premium equipment the 48" can easily challenge a 60" for performance, stability, and most importantly, fun.</div>
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Add to all of this that in most cars you can either stand the plane up assembled in the back seat, or drop the seats and slide her into the trunk, and this is the most practical high performance 3DXA plane we have ever seen. It's cheap enough and easy enough to fly every day with a minimum of fuss, big enough to be a little badass, and small enough to fly in parks and parking lots. </div>
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The flying is where the big surprise came from. I tried to cover this extensively in <a href="http://docaustinextreme.blogspot.com/2020/05/extra-v2flight-report.html" target="_blank"><span style="color: #336699;">Extra V2__Flight Report</span></a>, though now with some more time on the planes I can expand on this a little.</div>
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This was the first plane that I have owned both V1 and V2 versions of, so I could compare them directly. I think everyone understands how the lighter weigh helps, but the big improvement comes from the stiffness of the G10 and Carbon mixed composite construction. The V2 is much stiffer, and this pays off with the plane flexing less, if any, under load. No matter how hard you push the plane, everything stays in alignment better, which makes the plane fly straighter instead of being steered by the flexing. It's just much more precise entering and exiting high violence snaps and tumbles, plus precision moves like slow and point rolls. Cuban 8s and other big sky stuff is easier because the plane tracks much more precisely. </div>
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While the V1 was extremely good about this, it was still a mostly wood plane with mixed composites in critical high stress areas. The V2 though is loaded with composite laminate formers, and motor box top, sides and bottom. The fuselage is much more resistant to twisting under loads and everything stays straighter and flies straighter.</div>
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Something we learned in pylon racing was how much your RPMs would increase when you stiffening the front of the plane. The stiffer the plane is, the less power is wasted from torque flexing the motor box. Now all of the power goes straight to the propeller, and the V2 is noticeably faster with more vertical punch out than the V1.</div>
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<a href="https://vimeo.com/430877674">Extra EXP__Savage Badassery IV</a> from <a href="https://vimeo.com/user714849">Doc Austin</a> on <a href="https://vimeo.com/">Vimeo</a>.</div>
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Maybe I shouldn't have been surprised, but knife Edge performance went off the scale with this plane. I've been working on my KE death slides lately and I have to admit it's been pretty terrifying. I've almost got a grip on it though, some because I am so familiar with the Extra EXP, and some because the V2s improved precision makes it a lot easier.</div>
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A KE death slide is like an elevator maneuver, sinking in a post stall slide toward the ground, only with the plane on it's side. Here you not only have to manage a post stall KE slide with the ground coming up fast, but you have to keep it in a straight line, all while not stalling it, or it looks horrible or ends badly. You can see in the videos where several times I confidently ride that KE death slide all the way down, right into a landing.<br />
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At first, this was kind of horrific, but with the plane tracking straight that was one less thing I had to deal with, and all I had to manage was the power and rudder, and then roll the wing out of the way before touchdown. Since death slides are a new thing for me, a plane I knew so well was the one to use to work on them. Obviously you could never learn this sort of thing with a plane you couldn't trust, but with the V2 I came to grips with it in a few tries.<br />
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Here is usually where I like to drive a final nail in things and make final observations, a summary of sorts. However we are only two months into this V2 adventure so there's going to be plenty more to come and much, much more to learn from this plane. As we saw in the V1, there were lots of pleasant surprises as I learned the character and nuisances of it's behavior, and I am sure the V2 will be the same kind of plane, only starting from a place of utter familiarity.</div>
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Unchanged is this plane's position in the market. Not only is it the perfect plane for the new 3D pilots, but even experienced pilots can fly this plane and have a blast with it. It's inexpensive, practical and bad to the bone, kind of like the V1, only better. </div>
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Last observation is that these became available at the end of May, right at about two months before this writing. We are right now on the third load of these. The Extra V2s hardly have time to even see the shelf in the warehouse because they are flying out of there so fast.</div>
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There's always a lot of talk about equipment and what power system and servos to use, but after a decade experience with this plane I have kind of stumbled upon what I like best, and what I feel allows me to get the best out of myself and the plane. I've covered this extensively over the years, but for those who missed it, the following is a reprint from our last V2 article:</div>
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Once again, it's going to be the Torque 2814/Airboss 45 ESC power system. Not only do I believe this is the best power system for the job, but again, you can save $75 when you buy it with the plane as a combo.<br />
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I have been using this combination in my 48" planes, again, for over a decade. Reliability and durability has been 100% dead solid perfect. There is more power than you actually need, with enough to give unlimited vertical performance, and throttle response is perfectly linear. <br />
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Like all Extreme Flight power systems, once you bolt the cowling on you can forget about the motor and ESC and simply fly it. Most of my 2814s and Airboss' are years old, but I have so much faith in them I will drop an old beat up one into a brand new plane with no worries. The Torque is the Maytag of electric motors.</div>
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For 8 volt servos you either need a 2s lipo or an external BEC. I chose the BEC because they are not that hard to solder up, and once installed you simply forget about them. I have always used the Castle 10 amp BEC on all my 8 volt planes, and again, am delighted with the reliability and durability.<br />
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Here you can see I solder mine up a little differently. Instead of soldering both the ESC battery leads and BEC to the deans plug, I cut back the heat shrink on the wire about halfway between and solder there. It makes putting the deans plug on much easier because you don't have to hold and solder two leads to one place.</div>
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<span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: small;">The <span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: small;">best news is in a lot of ways this is like flying the o<span style="font-size: small;">ld Extra EXP that we love so much. It's just better. It's lighter so it is more floaty to fly. If's stiffer, so it flexes less under load and tracks better, especially coming into and exiting snaps, spins, and tumbles. You can pinpoint and control your exit better, which makes you look better.</span></span></span></span></span><br />
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Overall, the V1's character has not changed with the V2 update, which is a good thing because it didn't need to. At the time of the V1's release many of us were saying this plane was truly a spaceship that was 10 years ahead of it's time, and the new equipment is proving this out. The equipment has finally caught up to the plane, and now we can unlock the full potential that's always been there.</div><div style="border-image: none 100% / 1 / 0 stretch;"><br /></div>
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The V2 flies exactly the same way, though it's smoother, more precise and more solid. In many ways it's just like picking up your old Extra EXP, because the flight dynamics haven't changed.....they have just been improved. It does everything better. Now with stiffer construction, the Extra locks in better than ever.<br />
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So far, this is proving to be the plane of my dreams. It's fast, sleek and sexy, and throws down nearly as well as a 52". Granted the Aura makes it fly like a bigger plane, but it's even better than my V1, which has always been the plane I measure the others by.</div><div style="text-align: left;"><br />
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Precision has always been the Extra's hallmark, but once you learn the plane's nature it's 3Ds as well as anything. The Extra does have one advantage over the others in 3D, and that's the plane's ability to slide in high rotation turns and maneuvers. Other planes will pop harder in a parachute, whereas the Extra will rotate to flat and settle into a high speed elevator maneuver, and you control the descent with throttle. This is one of the many secrets of illusion I can get away with pushing to the last second, and rotating at what appears to be too low, only to arrest the descent with a sharp blast of throttle.<br />
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I also like to rotate the plane hard at medium speed and let it slide merrily along with the nose up until I snap it around in a nice harrier turn with some rudder. In a lot of my 3D, the Extra is going one direction when it's actually pointing in another, kind of like deliberately sliding a car on a wet road for fun, only you won't get a ticket for doing it with the Extra. </div>
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<span style="font-size: small;">For example, if you do a high speed parachute and hold the elevator in, the Extra will pop to level, and then drop into a High speed sinking elevator maneuver. This can be a little unsettling the first few times you try it, but the plane stays stable the entire time. The unsettling part is watching the plane go in a direction different from which it is pointed, but it's so amusing you get used to that pretty quickly, and it becomes a remarkable tool. I learned 3D on Extras, so to me this is how a plane is supposed to fly. It was when I got into planes that don't slide so much I realized not all planes do this as well and it's a useful flying characteristic.</span><br />
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We have not had the time to set an Extra up for sport, but we plan to. For now I have simulated that with my low rates, and the V2 is an improvement here too. The Extra does all the conventional maneuvers with the same ease as the V1, though being lighter and stiffer plays it's part in keeping the Extra ahead of the rest even for sport flying.</div><div style="text-align: left;"><br /></div>
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Aside from being more confident and being able to push a little harder, I don't fly the V2 much differently. It is so solidly rooted in the V1's advanced design that it was never gong to fly like a completely new plane. Like has been said, the V1 was so far ahead of it's time all it needed was a few updates to incorporate the latest construction techniques and materials. <br />
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Well, this is embarrassing. I copied my raw video off my camera to a folder, and it simply disappeared. This was the only annoying moment of the project, but I did manage to recover one of them. We'll be flying and videoing all week, so this gives me an excuse to run a video presentation article.</div>
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<a href="https://vimeo.com/421741207">Extra EXP V2__Savage BadAssery 3</a> from <a href="https://vimeo.com/user714849">Doc Austin</a> on <a href="https://vimeo.com/">Vimeo</a>.</div>
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<a href="https://vimeo.com/421742630">Extra EXP V2__Big Wheel</a> from <a href="https://vimeo.com/user714849">Doc Austin</a> on <a href="https://vimeo.com/">Vimeo</a>.</div>
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<a href="https://vimeo.com/416782272">Extra RXP V2__Savage Badassery</a> from <a href="https://vimeo.com/user714849">Doc Austin</a> on <a href="https://vimeo.com/">Vimeo</a>.</div>
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<strong>The Obligatory Final Nail</strong><br />
The flying qualities of this plane remain irreproachable and are the standard all 4 foot planes must be judged by. More experienced pilots love the plane for it's sparkling precision and agile 3D manners. The Extra is so well rounded that experienced pilots love it for sharpening up their game, as well as just blasting around with and flying whacked out 3D.</div><div style="text-align: left;">
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Finally, there's the new guys, and it's important to cater to them because they will be tomorrow's veterans. Newer pilots will love the Extra's gentle and forgiving nature. It's smooth and stable, and never surprises the pilot, all things crucial to giving the new guys the best chance of success. Not only is the Extra friendly enough to fill the needs of the inexperienced and sport flyers, but it's no brainer build is exactly what they need to be successful.<br />
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We haven't talked about the plane's appeal to sport flyers, but the V1 performed those duties in stellar fashion. Like I say, we plan to do a sport report, though you can achieve pretty much the same thing by using the low rate from the manual. Like this the Extra flies a lot like a T28, though it's better at low speed and tracks off the scale. It's probably the perfect plane for T28 (and other gentle sport planes) pilots to graduate to, with unlimited room for those pilots to grow and expand their skills.</div><div style="text-align: left;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: left;">
Those who have small cars and houses love the plane's practicality, ease of transportation and storage. Pilot's on a budget love it's modest pricing, though you can also trick the Extra out to the max for a little more with premium servos and a good electronic stability system. It can be a nice little plane, or a stone cold killer and everything in between. For over a decade the V1 was the most versatile plane on the market, and the V2 will certainly widen that margin considerably.<br />
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Essentially, it's just perfect for everyone.<br />
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